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Don't know how much I will post going forward.
« on: January 07, 2007, 05:50:05 PM »
I know am not the biggest poster here. However, going forward I may only limit myself to one or two days a week or at minimum every other weekend for now. So sometimes I may not respond to comments not becuase I agree but because I am not on the site. That is all I have to say for now.

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Re: Don't know how much I will post going forward.
« Reply #1 on: January 07, 2007, 06:10:56 PM »
We'll be looking forward to your posts brother...  be well..
"‘Vehorashtem/Numbers 33:53’: When you burn out the Land’s inhabitants, you will merit to bestow upon your children the Land as an inheritance. If you do not burn them out, then even if you conquer the Land, you will not merit to allot it to your children as an inheritance." - Ovadiah ben Yacov Sforno; Italian Rabbi, Biblical Commentator, Philosopher and Physician.  1475-1550.

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« Reply #2 on: January 11, 2007, 09:46:19 PM »
I don't know how serious you take me, Yacov. I have taken the time to quote passages in the Tanach and you don't feel it is worth debating me or bringing your own points. I would hope there is real substance here and it isn't just for the stats but I don't honsetly feel you really care what I have to say. I see you on other boards and you debate people. When you are afraid to debate me it makes me feel you don't accept the truth. And I especially feel that way with regard to feminism. You haven't one passage to support your view. And again in Passaic, NJ they don't invite Russian teenage boys to the community. You expressed no concern. Who are these Russian women going to marry. Chaim went to jail for 5 and a half years to free Soviet Jewry and this is what you have.  The Russian teenage men are told they are not wanted. What do these Russian parents think of Judaism when they see their daughters are invited to families to experience a Shabbos which they have never experinced before but the same groups don't care about their sons learing about Orthodoxy. This is horrible. I'm sure it  causes family friction between brothers and sisters and parents and causes some Russian men to hate Judaism and these Russian parents to not think too highly of Orthodoxy and think that most Jewish girls are taught by the communities to treat boys like garbage which they see.

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Re: Don't know how much I will post going forward.
« Reply #3 on: January 11, 2007, 10:45:54 PM »
Adam, I know I'm no Torah scholor but I am pretty well versed in History and socio-political ideologies/Philosophies.  Feminism, in its modern form is a bi-product of the Communist movement of the late 1800's of which the Jewish Socialism: Bund (Labor Zionists) for example exploited as "Freedom of the Sexes".  It has been around prior to this with the mid 1700's Mary Wallstonecraft who attacted much attention with a book promoting womens emancipation.  Virginia Wolf is perhaps the most known "feminist" in modern history but i'd say for feminism's political movement none more than Rosa Luxemburg who assisted the German Communist movement and was a instigator of the failed revolution on which shortly after she was murdered in 1871.  You will see that each and every name with these movements are all directly linked to academic Communist groups.  This has been so with their direct relationships in the revolutions in France, Germany, Italy, Spain and Russia. 

The dialectical materialist philosophy is a total distortion of evolutionary history that Marxism/Communism conceptualized upon reading Darwin.  Modern Feminism, like Communism, is a movement based on lies...pure garbage....which all leftwing ideologies promulgated onto the masses.  The goal is power for the ruling classes or dictatorship while the ignorant believe the lies and work hard to force them onto the societies at large, much like main stream media today pushing "Global Warming", "Palestinians" and Islam being a religion of "peace".  One always hears that "Working Classes" garbage when Communism is NEVER from the ground up, "Working peoples unite" rubbish but is conceptualized in meeting rooms of elites and pure academics.  "Secret Societies and the French Revolution" - U. Birch is a good example for one, "Fabian Freeway" - R. Martin is another. There is nothing "feminine" about feminism.  It is a dialectical manipulation sold onto women with the goal of creating conflict between men and women, husband and wife which satisfies many of the key goals/planks in communist "utopanism".  Women become whores to be used by the State, Family is destroyed, culture is ruined, morality is undermined and of course religion is denegrated into worthlessness. 

I come from Russian Jews and had the misfortune of meeting many.  Many Russian Jews, who have kept their Orthodoxy tend to be very Orthodox but through many years of Czarist pogroms, forced conversions away from Judaism into other religions, especially Communism or even Jewish molestations "Frankism" or even Sabbataism which is still alive and well in Turkey and small parts of Eastern Europe... The Russian Jews tend to be the misguided.  I was the product of a Marxist up-bringing until I learnd the sickness and lies of everything. 

In short, Feminism is a lie from the Communist Left that is exploited via any means to cater to women with low self esteem and provide them with a false sense of security....  This is perhaps why most Feminists are disgruntled old hacks that have either been divorced many times due to their massive ignorance and arrogance of their false self appraise, or they are left overs who followed these lies and now find them over egoed CEO's who missed the boat to have a family and blame everyone else for their misfortunes and most deffinately they are (have become) full fledged lesbiens through massive propaganda and life's misfortunes who have "progressed" to hate men pure and simple....   I know this isn't really what you were looking for but I only wished to respond due to my disgust with/in what debased ideologies like feminism have brought to the world...
"‘Vehorashtem/Numbers 33:53’: When you burn out the Land’s inhabitants, you will merit to bestow upon your children the Land as an inheritance. If you do not burn them out, then even if you conquer the Land, you will not merit to allot it to your children as an inheritance." - Ovadiah ben Yacov Sforno; Italian Rabbi, Biblical Commentator, Philosopher and Physician.  1475-1550.

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Re: Don't know how much I will post going forward.
« Reply #4 on: January 12, 2007, 07:38:25 AM »
Adam and Scriabin, not everyone here is going to agree with each other on every issue. This is not a cult. We have independently minded people here with all types of opinions. I can see that you criticize Chaim sometimes, and we have no problem with that.

And no, we don't care about statistics of how many people are posting. Why would that be important to us? We want people to take ACTION to make this a better world. That's our goal. Posting is only to educate, to inform, to persuade, and to make the forum interesting so that we attract more people to our movement so that we can be more effective in taking ACTION to change things.

On this forum, I think we give you a fair chance to air your views and even to criticize. Here you have a chance to persuade others. But that doesn't guarantee that everyone is going to agree on every issue. I wouldn't want to be part of a movement where everyone agrees on every issue.

We should ask ourselves this question: would this be a better world if JTF Jews were running Israel and if JTF Gentiles were running America? Is it desirable for JTF to become stronger and more influential?

If there's another movement out there that is better, then join it by all means. JTF is the movement that speaks for me. Not 100% of the time, but 90% of the time. And when I disagree that other 10% of the time, at least I know that here I will be given the opportunity to voice my opinions and even to address Chaim directly on his broadcasts every week with my views.

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« Reply #5 on: January 12, 2007, 10:59:22 AM »
Adam and Scriabin, not everyone here is going to agree with each other on every issue. This is not a cult. We have independently minded people here with all types of opinions. I can see that you criticize Chaim sometimes, and we have no problem with that.

And no, we don't care about statistics of how many people are posting. Why would that be important to us? We want people to take ACTION to make this a better world. That's our goal. Posting is only to educate, to inform, to persuade, and to make the forum interesting so that we attract more people to our movement so that we can be more effective in taking ACTION to change things.

On this forum, I think we give you a fair chance to air your views and even to criticize. Here you have a chance to persuade others. But that doesn't guarantee that everyone is going to agree on every issue. I wouldn't want to be part of a movement where everyone agrees on every issue.

We should ask ourselves this question: would this be a better world if JTF Jews were running Israel and if JTF Gentiles were running America? Is it desirable for JTF to become stronger and more influential?

If there's another movement out there that is better, then join it by all means. JTF is the movement that speaks for me. Not 100% of the time, but 90% of the time. And when I disagree that other 10% of the time, at least I know that here I will be given the opportunity to voice my opinions and even to address Chaim directly on his broadcasts every week with my views.



Jimmy. 
Of course we do not expect everyone to agree on everything.  That would be absurd.  However, are we not entitled to express our opinions as we see them? 

I do support JTF.  Ask Chaim.  I'd bet that I've given more money to JTF than 95% of the people on this forum...and I'm POOR.   

Chaim is #1.  He's brave, noble, honest, sacrificing, righteous and even saintly...but he's not infallible.

I believe that women call the shots in times of peace as do men in the times of war.  We've had unprecedented prosperity in the West since the end of WWII.  Men have become lazy and women overconfident.  A wealthy, satiated society eventually thinks that it can afford 'luxuries' like affirmative action, abortion, female 'soldiers', 'guest workers', and so on.  We cannot.

Men make objective decisions.  "Kill the Enemy."

Women are subjective.  "But what about the innocent civilians.  Maybe our enemies just had bad upbringings, I'm sure we can pacify them.  Why don't we try diplomacy."

Perhaps I make no sense.

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« Reply #6 on: January 12, 2007, 04:37:26 PM »
You are making sense but I think you are not taking into consideration as to "Why" it has become this way?  It really is not a male/female issue it is a socio-political issue brought on by G-dless Leftist thought/deeds.  You are right.... there is an entire agenda working today.  This is why White males, largely are pushed to the back of the line and not necessarily lazy but just tired, pissed off and voiceless...  If ever they do show a man today, 90% of the time it is a Lenardo DeCaprio or a homosexual.  I tried to explain above about political/social "Feminism" and am open to conversation and also debate.....  just trying to help...
"‘Vehorashtem/Numbers 33:53’: When you burn out the Land’s inhabitants, you will merit to bestow upon your children the Land as an inheritance. If you do not burn them out, then even if you conquer the Land, you will not merit to allot it to your children as an inheritance." - Ovadiah ben Yacov Sforno; Italian Rabbi, Biblical Commentator, Philosopher and Physician.  1475-1550.

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Re: Don't know how much I will post going forward.
« Reply #7 on: January 12, 2007, 04:59:08 PM »
Scriabin, thanks for coming back your a great poster ;D, I know this is OT
"For it is through the mercy of fools that all Justice is lost"
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Re: Don't know how much I will post going forward.
« Reply #8 on: January 12, 2007, 05:31:12 PM »
Scriabin, thanks for coming back your a great poster ;D, I know this is OT

Thanks Kahaneloyalist, and thanks for all the wonderful videos of Rabbi Kahane. :)

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Re: Don't know how much I will post going forward.
« Reply #9 on: January 13, 2007, 08:51:55 PM »
Yacov wrote:
>I don't think most women are bad

Here we go again, Yacov. What bothers me Yacov is you seem to think most MEN are bad and that disturbs me. You have written posts saying that certain sins were only committed by men when this just isn't true and is pretty obvious.You don't seem to be bothered by just posted something and then when I ask you to defend your point of view you refuse to do this and tell me to ask Chaim. I would prefer leaving more difficult questions for Chaim rather then using my question to deal with my disagreements with you when you don't even want to defend your point of view because I see you do that on other sites. But if you want me to discuss our disagreements on ask JTF fine. I don't think it makes you look very good but if that is what you want fine.   

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« Reply #10 on: January 13, 2007, 09:17:06 PM »


>Feminism, in its modern form is a bi-product of the Communist movement of the late 1800's of which the Jewish Socialism: Bund (Labor Zionists) for example exploited as "Freedom of the Sexes". 


Thanks for informing me Marzutra. I have heard similar stuff. The issue to me is, Marzutra, is FEMINISM is a serious, serious problem at least in New York. DO you realize how many Jewish groups are just reaching out to women and are telling men to drop dead. You have Aish Hatorah. Just this week they had a special speaker and exercize class for women only to get in shape. They never have that for men. Then they have Jewish women buisness leaders. And they did actually invite the men for a change for this one. Did Aish ever have Male Jewish Business leaders? I have never heard about this. Then of course this Rabbi who works there has an event on how to create a NICER society. All to appeal to women. And who is posting all these event. Of course, a women who AISH brainwashed. I have never received any message from a guy from this group. You would be shocked at how they leave a message to a guy. They try to sound sexy because they think they will attract a guy to their events.
Then you have the Jewish Press who never show any concern for men either. And other groups do the same thing. They only care about the women. I mentioned what was going on in Passaic, NJ. THey invite Russian girls, but not Russian boys, And among young women they have complained that there are no young men in the community which there are but none of them go to the shuls or are involved in any of the events. I have looked in the phone book. IN THE ESTABLISHED ORTHODOXY community I have been told and I see it myself that it is becoming inbalanced with not enough men. In Israel it is the same way. Why do you think there are more men here? Likely, because more men don't trust the established Rabbi's and what not. While the women do becuase they are kissed up to. I don't think Rabbis are supporting feminism because they support communism even though that is the root of it and I agree with you on that. They are just power hungry and corrupt and like the women to come to them. 

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« Reply #11 on: January 13, 2007, 10:00:19 PM »
Adam, I wholely agree with you.  Feminism is pure EVIL.  It is rotten to the core.  Every Socialist/Communist "legislation", "right" or "freedom" has an attached agenda.  Feminism is a digressive LIE that is directed at totally undermining the family, religion, G-d, culture and turning women into rottenness...  It is sad today, women are soo brainwashed with this "progressive" lies that they look down on married women with families and hate men.  It is a DIRECTED agenda, pure and simple.  Poeple who say such have no concept of dialectical materialist ideology nor the direction of this "utopian" thought.  Women are to be whores used by the masses with any children to be raised by the State.  Adam, a very important concept was "planned parenthood" and the activism with the pill was due to a woman named Margarette Meade.  You will enjoy reading about this [censored].  She and her like ilk have ruined women for all humanity...  You might be interested too in reading my post on Oprah in response to a black Jewish poster who looks up to that commie bastard Martin Luther King Jr.  I agree with you Adam 100%, you are right.  Feminism is a purely diabolical lie...
"‘Vehorashtem/Numbers 33:53’: When you burn out the Land’s inhabitants, you will merit to bestow upon your children the Land as an inheritance. If you do not burn them out, then even if you conquer the Land, you will not merit to allot it to your children as an inheritance." - Ovadiah ben Yacov Sforno; Italian Rabbi, Biblical Commentator, Philosopher and Physician.  1475-1550.