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Offline underthesun

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Re: proof muhammed was a fake and no muslim can prove this wrong...
« Reply #25 on: May 23, 2008, 04:31:22 PM »
Have a look at this ... stuff:

http://www.jews-for-allah.org/Muhammad-and-Judaism/prophecies_by_mohammed.htm

"I myself was influenced by my knowledge of the Bible to accept the Prophethood of Muhammad, and have had two Jewish rabbis admitting to me in Speaker's Corner that Muhammad was the Prophet spoken of in their books. ..."

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Re: proof muhammed was a fake and no muslim can prove this wrong...
« Reply #26 on: May 23, 2008, 05:05:53 PM »
Have a look at this ... stuff:

http://www.jews-for-allah.org/Muhammad-and-Judaism/prophecies_by_mohammed.htm

"I myself was influenced by my knowledge of the Bible to accept the Prophethood of Muhammad, and have had two Jewish rabbis admitting to me in Speaker's Corner that Muhammad was the Prophet spoken of in their books. ..."


 Muslim missionary alert.
The Academy of Elijah taught, whoever studies the laws (of the Torah) every day, (he) is guaranteed to have a share in the World to Come.

‏119:139 צִמְּתַתְנִי קִנְאָתִי כִּישָׁכְחוּ דְבָרֶיךָ צָרָי
My zeal incenses me, for my adversaries have forgotten Your words.
‏119:141 צָעִיר אָנֹכִי וְנִבְזֶה פִּקֻּדֶיךָ, לֹא שָׁכָחְתִּי.
 I am young and despised; I have not forgotten Your precepts.

" A fool does not realize, and an unwise person does not understand this (i.e. the following:) When the wicked bloom like grass, and the evildoers blossom (i.e. when they seem extremly successful), it is to destroy them forever (i.e. they are rewarded for their few good deeds in this World, and they will have no portion in the World to Come!)

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Re: proof muhammed was a fake and no muslim can prove this wrong...
« Reply #27 on: May 23, 2008, 05:13:16 PM »
Have a look at this ... stuff:

http://www.jews-for-allah.org/Muhammad-and-Judaism/prophecies_by_mohammed.htm

"I myself was influenced by my knowledge of the Bible to accept the Prophethood of Muhammad, and have had two Jewish rabbis admitting to me in Speaker's Corner that Muhammad was the Prophet spoken of in their books. ..."


What for a nonsense.

The 6 great hadith-collections were all written in the 9th century.

Jerusalem was since 638 under Arab Muslim control.

This prophecies about the capture of Jerusalem are nonsense.  ;D
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Re: proof muhammed was a fake and no muslim can prove this wrong...
« Reply #28 on: May 25, 2008, 05:47:50 AM »
Muslim missionary alert.

If you meant me and not the linked site:
Sorry, I didn't think anyone on this forum could take this site serious.
I believe Muhammed to be a cursed. That is what the bible tells me:

"But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed."
Galatians 1:8

Is there a way that I can delete the link?

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Re: proof muhammed was a fake and no muslim can prove this wrong...
« Reply #29 on: May 25, 2008, 06:06:15 AM »
Have a look at this ... stuff:

http://www.jews-for-allah.org/Muhammad-and-Judaism/prophecies_by_mohammed.htm

"I myself was influenced by my knowledge of the Bible to accept the Prophethood of Muhammad, and have had two Jewish rabbis admitting to me in Speaker's Corner that Muhammad was the Prophet spoken of in their books. ..."


This is clearly from a Mad false prophetic site >:(
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Re: proof muhammed was a fake and no muslim can prove this wrong...
« Reply #30 on: May 25, 2008, 09:10:42 PM »
Muslim missionary alert.

If you meant me and not the linked site:
Sorry, I didn't think anyone on this forum could take this site serious.
I believe Muhammed to be a cursed. That is what the bible tells me:

"But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed."
Galatians 1:8

Is there a way that I can delete the link?

could you modify your post, yes.

But don't worry. Only tzvi thought that  - and accidentally!  People are silly in their own ways.. I doubt you'll be misunderstood in that way by anybody else. Especially not now.

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Re: proof muhammed was a fake and no muslim can prove this wrong...
« Reply #31 on: May 25, 2008, 09:15:35 PM »
if muhammed claimed to be a prophet why is it that he never gave a Prophecie. if prophets tell about the future muhammed didnt even have one. so how can he be a prophet

It is not a very strong argument since Muhammad claimed to have prophecies-
1. He spoke continuously about the last day, which is yet to come.
2. He predicted vaguely the fall of Persia.
3. He predicted the "severe punishment" that Allah has prepared for his enemies, a punishment that Mo and his followers later on delivered.

Muhammad was no miracle doer though, and he claimed that his words are in fact the miracle and that they are a self evidence that they are divine. He challenged people to show him even one surah which is as magnificent as the Quran.
The Persia issue is no prophecy, because the Arabs of this time where allies of the Byzantine empire against Persia. They fought and won. The name of the emperor who leads the allied forces was Heraklios.
After this struggle were the East Roman forces weakened and the Arabs were "self employed".

Some scientists think, that Islam is a Christian heresy of monophysite believers.

But the pagan influences in Islam are in my oppinion too big.

In my oppinion is the Islam only an ideology of the new founded arab empire.


Didn't the Arabs of that time attack the Byzantines? Were they really allies pheasant? I read that they took land from the byzantines.

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Re: proof muhammed was a fake and no muslim can prove this wrong...
« Reply #32 on: May 26, 2008, 04:31:35 AM »
Muslam was only a tool for dictatorship of Mohd, for Expansionism of Arab Empire and for Global domination of the evil.  >:(
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