Author Topic: Tzvi Ben Roshel Exposed!!!! Honorable Winged Member?  (Read 7654 times)

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Offline DownwithIslam

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Re: Tzvi Ben Roshel Exposed!!!! Honorable Winged Member?
« Reply #50 on: June 26, 2008, 08:25:44 PM »
Fair enough, I dont know much about JEDEL but the situation with Roshel is clear.
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Re: Tzvi Ben Roshel Exposed!!!! Honorable Winged Member?
« Reply #51 on: June 26, 2008, 08:44:49 PM »
Please keep internal affairs on an internal thread.
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Re: Tzvi Ben Roshel Exposed!!!! Honorable Winged Member?
« Reply #52 on: June 26, 2008, 09:57:39 PM »
This is a terrible thread, and I am tempted to delete the entire thread.

DWI, even if Tzvi disagrees with JTF, he is permitted to express his views on this forum. He is not an enemy just because he respects HaRav Ovadia Yosef. If Tzvi respects the corrupt Shas party, which I believe is responsible for the Oslo accords and the murder of 1800 innocent Jews, then I strongly disagree with him. But Tzvi can express his opinions here without being attacked or "exposed".

I know that Tzvi accused DWI of posting pornography on Guzofsky's forum. That was wrong. I don't believe that DWI did that. DWI did say that he thinks Guzofsky's forum deserves to be attacked with pornography - which is also wrong. JTF opposes the use of pornography under any circumstances. No Jew or righteous Gentile should ever look at that filth.

I believe that the pornography posted on Guzofsky's forum was placed there by Tina Greco using proxy addresses, or at least some of it was. I asked DWI if he had anything to do with it, and he told me that he did not. I believe DWI.

Tzvi mistakenly came to some conclusions about DWI, and I think the accusation against DWI was unfair. When DWI was falsely accused of doing something, he became enraged and that's how this whole thing started. DWI was especially angry over the fact that Tzvi attacked him over pornography which DWI did not post, but Tzvi never said a word about how Guzofsky's evil forum was deliberately enabling a Nazi to openly defend StørmFrønt for several days. Guzofsky's forum did this just to get at JTF, which is the ultimate example of sinat chinam (needless hatred) that caused the destruction of the Holy Temple and the 2000 years of exile for the Jewish people.

While I think that Tzvi was wrong, he is not the same as the other evil Jews at the Guzofsky forum. I don't believe that Tzvi would have allowed Tina Greco to remain on the Guzofsky forum for several days opening threatening to post pictures of JTF members on StørmFrønt.

The same is true for kahaneloyalist. I don't think he is the same as the other evil people on Guzofsky's splinter forum.

But DWI, you have attacked Tzvi and kahaneloyalist publicly in a way that is asur (forbidden). They may be wrong, and you can disagree with them and try to show them. But to curse them and hate them is absolutely forbidden. They are our fellow Jews and we must love and respect them. DWI, they are not like Guzofsky, Doom, "TorahTruth" (sic), Rivera and the other reshaim (evildoers) who knowingly worked with a Nazi just to get at JTF.

Therefore, I apologize to Tzvi over this thread. Threads like this cannot be permitted on our forum.

DWI, I know that you are a very good Jew. But you will have to learn that we must always give our fellow Jews the benefit of the doubt, unless they have proven that they are so evil that we must fight them for the sake of klal yisrael (the whole Jewish people). I think that you and Tzvi owe each other an apology: Tzvi should apologize for accusing you of posting pornography and you should apologize for attacking him for that mistake as if he is an enemy of the Jewish people, which he clearly is not.