Guns and Self-Defense > Guns/Firearms
Supreme Court Throws Out Handgun Ban
AsheDina:
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--- Quote from: Rubystars on June 26, 2008, 05:58:29 PM ---I'm really glad that there won't be any restrictions on guns this time around.
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If anyone bothered to read my post, the ruling by the supreme court is a sham, it won't remove any restrictions, just grant a licensing system in DC. This is not a victory, this is all an illusion.
BAD NEWS!
SCOTUS has recognized a right to "common" arms - those which people commonly have for non-military purposes.
SCOTUS has specifically not recognized a right to "militia" arms - those which allegedly have little place in normal society.
This utterly fails to recognize two plain points:
- the 2nd Amendment SPECIFICALLY recognized the need of the populace to be armed for MILITARY PURPOSES, which presumably includes whatever tools are most suitable thereto
- tools cannot become "common" if they are nationally prohibited prior to becoming common. To wit: many/most here would have M16s if only they were allowed to.
SCOTUS really doesn't want the machinegun ban to fall.
“Although we do not undertake an exhaustive historical analysis today of the full scope of the Second Amendment, nothing in our opinion should be taken to cast doubt on longstanding prohibitions on the possession of firearms by felons and the mentally ill, or laws forbidding the carrying of firearms in sensitive places such as schools and government buildings, or laws imposing conditions and qualifications on the commercial sale of arms.”
Well I take that back, how the heck is this a victory?
Scalia on the definition of arms:
"The term was applied then as now to weapons that were not specifically designed for military use and were not employed in a military capacity."
What? Wasn't there basically two arms (besides cannons); muskets and pistols?
And they were both used for military/self-defense and hunting purposes?
Why do we even have a gun forum if no one bothers to read it?
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WHY are people NOT paying attention to Cohen?? We do NOT have the LUXURY to NOT be fighting for ABSOLUTE GUN RIGHTS. WHO is going to take care of YOUR Family's?
White Israelite:
*clap clap* congratulations people, we won the right to keep our current guns with additional gun control laws permitted by politicians as necessary, oh and a licensing system put in place in washington DC. Gee, why not just license everything since we have to get "permission", this is NOT a right, DC is just going to make it nearly impossible to get a license because it will likely have to be approved by the police chief.
SAMSON:
This is great news, I have been waiting years for this. I cannot believe how clearly it is spelled out and 4 justices did not care what it says.
Americanhero1:
He agrees :D
http://youtube.com/watch?v=6F45dmr7Amc#
Dan:
Let's carry this momentum further... all the way till Nov!
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