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Drinking?
AsheDina:
Well, I cant even have a half glass of anything without being totally blitzed. So- no- tyvm, then I am OUT like knocked OUT cold- so no good for me. I have always had an instinct though, just to NOT drink, besides, it tastes EXACTLY like when I was a little girl----- TERRIBLE! :P
This is my question.... Why are you all into the Laws more than anything? Do not the books of the prophets in the Tanach interest anybody? They do ME, WAY more than ANY book at all, I could read them for HOURS. this is all too hard for me. I try to understand all of this more, but for some reason, I always feel under the gun, when reading Torah.
I always have wondered what it is like to live with a family that is totally Orthodox- It was almost just about FORBIDDEN in my house to read anything from "G-d" Which STUNK, b/c ever since I can remember, I have ALWAYS believed in G-d. Totally 100%. I have not ever felt like I "fit in" anywhere at all. Oh well. Too bad..
We have had all types of bibles hidden in the house, so nobody could find them. My Nana did that with her Art work too. Hid it. My G-grandmother when she died, she had $12,000- hidden in a cup at the back of the cabinets. family pictures hidden under boards- and CLOTHES CLOTHES CLOTHES ALL over the place, my Condo has CLOTHES all over!!! My mom always sends TONS of clothes, like I might run out. Everything in my family is: DONT TELL ANYONE WHAT I AM GOING TO TELL YOU
and its usually nothing big.. & if it IS something big- OMG! DO NOT REPEAT!
And the QUESTIONS! OMG! ZERO privacy in my family- they have to know EVERYTHING, and this is TOUGH, b/c NOBODY shares ANY info on themselves in my family.
And what I REALLY CANT STAND: Paulette- DO NOT EVER go out of this house without looking SPECTACULAR. I went through a phase, where I defied that, and gained like 60 lbs., v/c it made me FURIOUS!!
this too: whats wrong....nothing....whats WRONG Paulette?......NOTHING....Paulette! what is WRONG!!....I SAID NOTHING! And then they NEVER leave you alone, until you admit it is something, and it is not anything!
So- JEWS- BE ORTHODOX! SAVE YOUSELVES! Being a Crypto Jewess is the PITS!
q_q_:
because in orthodox judaism, laws are something you have to do, and you have to know thme to do them. The questions there are fundamental.
With tenach stories, you have the plain text which if something doesn't make much sense to you, you can consult the many commentaries.
Any other tenach questions, like what we learn from a story, or why did X do this and not this, why does it say this and not that, what might the reason be. They are largely based on speculation. So speculation over and above what the tenach says, is not on firm ground.
And with the AskJudea show, many of the questions I ask him, are because of him being a disciple of rabbi david bar hayyim, who is a bit controversial - in our times - and so I might put questions to judea related to these controversies, none of which are to do with tenach.
Americanhero1:
--- Quote from: Paulette on July 29, 2008, 03:48:47 AM --- Well, I cant even have a half glass of anything without being totally blitzed. So- no- tyvm, then I am OUT like knocked OUT cold- so no good for me. I have always had an instinct though, just to NOT drink, besides, it tastes EXACTLY like when I was a little girl----- TERRIBLE! :P
This is my question.... Why are you all into the Laws more than anything? Do not the books of the prophets in the Tanach interest anybody? They do ME, WAY more than ANY book at all, I could read them for HOURS. this is all too hard for me. I try to understand all of this more, but for some reason, I always feel under the gun, when reading Torah.
I always have wondered what it is like to live with a family that is totally Orthodox- It was almost just about FORBIDDEN in my house to read anything from "G-d" Which STUNK, b/c ever since I can remember, I have ALWAYS believed in G-d. Totally 100%. I have not ever felt like I "fit in" anywhere at all. Oh well. Too bad..
We have had all types of bibles hidden in the house, so nobody could find them. My Nana did that with her Art work too. Hid it. My G-grandmother when she died, she had $12,000- hidden in a cup at the back of the cabinets. family pictures hidden under boards- and CLOTHES CLOTHES CLOTHES ALL over the place, my Condo has CLOTHES all over!!! My mom always sends TONS of clothes, like I might run out. Everything in my family is: DONT TELL ANYONE WHAT I AM GOING TO TELL YOU
and its usually nothing big.. & if it IS something big- OMG! DO NOT REPEAT!
And the QUESTIONS! OMG! ZERO privacy in my family- they have to know EVERYTHING, and this is TOUGH, b/c NOBODY shares ANY info on themselves in my family.
And what I REALLY CANT STAND: Paulette- DO NOT EVER go out of this house without looking SPECTACULAR. I went through a phase, where I defied that, and gained like 60 lbs., v/c it made me FURIOUS!!
this too: whats wrong....nothing....whats WRONG Paulette?......NOTHING....Paulette! what is WRONG!!....I SAID NOTHING! And then they NEVER leave you alone, until you admit it is something, and it is not anything!
So- JEWS- BE ORTHODOX! SAVE YOUSELVES! Being a Crypto Jewess is the PITS!
--- End quote ---
A half a glass :::D
AsheDina:
--- Quote from: q_q_ on July 29, 2008, 09:29:22 AM ---because in orthodox judaism, laws are something you have to do, and you have to know thme to do them. The questions there are fundamental.
With tenach stories, you have the plain text which if something doesn't make much sense to you, you can consult the many commentaries.
Any other tenach questions, like what we learn from a story, or why did X do this and not this, why does it say this and not that, what might the reason be. They are largely based on speculation. So speculation over and above what the tenach says, is not on firm ground.
And with the AskJudea show, many of the questions I ask him, are because of him being a disciple of rabbi david bar hayyim, who is a bit controversial - in our times - and so I might put questions to judea related to these controversies, none of which are to do with tenach.
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But why is Tenach not really looked at as much? I am 43, HOW am I suppose to learn ALL of those Laws? I will NEVER live up to this, dont you see what I am saying?? How can anybody follow ALL of those Laws? This is hard, this is hard.
How does ANY Jew NOT born in an Orthodox family do this??
Of COURSE I WANT to please G-d, but it seems endless, and I wont ever please Him. Cant anybody see this from my prespective? I dont know what to do here, I dont know what to do. :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( It seems I wont ever be pleasing to G-d.
Tzvi Ben Roshel1:
--- Quote from: Paulette on July 29, 2008, 12:43:02 PM ---
--- Quote from: q_q_ on July 29, 2008, 09:29:22 AM ---because in orthodox judaism, laws are something you have to do, and you have to know thme to do them. The questions there are fundamental.
With tenach stories, you have the plain text which if something doesn't make much sense to you, you can consult the many commentaries.
Any other tenach questions, like what we learn from a story, or why did X do this and not this, why does it say this and not that, what might the reason be. They are largely based on speculation. So speculation over and above what the tenach says, is not on firm ground.
And with the AskJudea show, many of the questions I ask him, are because of him being a disciple of rabbi david bar hayyim, who is a bit controversial - in our times - and so I might put questions to judea related to these controversies, none of which are to do with tenach.
--- End quote ---
But why is Tenach not really looked at as much? I am 43, HOW am I suppose to learn ALL of those Laws? I will NEVER live up to this, dont you see what I am saying?? How can anybody follow ALL of those Laws? This is hard, this is hard.
How does ANY Jew NOT born in an Orthodox family do this??
Of COURSE I WANT to please G-d, but it seems endless, and I wont ever please Him. Cant anybody see this from my prespective? I dont know what to do here, I dont know what to do. :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( It seems I wont ever be pleasing to G-d.
--- End quote ---
One law at a time. If someone looks at the whole thing they might be discouraged and not even start. What one must do is to start somewhere and start keeping the laws. Their are many books/ sites that one can learn the laws, so one should do that and then follow what one has learned. It is not that difficult because for example all the holiday laws are at a certai time of the year, soo one doesn't have to know then all year round, but study them some time before the holiday and then apply them to the holiday.
Then one has the daily laws, which one can learn one at a time (I suggest one learn the laws from a general view and then go into details). And then if their is something that one does not know (and cant figure out) they can ask a Rabbi who is familiar with the laws and is able to tell you the correct answer.
- The Academy of Elijah taught, whoever studies the laws (of the Torah) every day, (he) is guaranteed to have a share in the World to Come.
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