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q_q_:
I tend not to read self help books.. so haven't read either of them.. But I liked the rabbi rambo video !
I can't really see an angry person getting their problems solved by reading a book.. If I'm angry i'm too angry to read a book. If I did, i'd be more inclined to get a book that's really highly rated with lots of reviews on amazon, and i'd research it more, on amazon.. I wouldn't just look for a self help book written by a rabbi. I guess though, without a good background in judaism, and a wish to simultaneously enforce one's connection to judaism and to master their emotions, one might be well suited to such a book that does both at the same time.
There are therapists who deal with anger, and peoples' problems are very specific.
I would stress, "out of sight, out of mind", to stop looking at the nazi mailing list. If you really want it then forward it to some other web-based email address that you rarely check. But do rarely check it! If at all.
It's the most obvious thing to do..
I guess you were drawn to it because you're a fighter.. That's good but no point looking for people to fight when they are no danger before or after. Nazis are small in proportion to the number of americans that there are. And they have a little mailing list.. And you are not stopping them that much by reading it and replying.. There are certainly good times to be confrontational and even get angry, but this isn't one of them. You don't want routine anger like clockwork. Remove the triggers.
Your problem is very specific to you and won't be solved by a book.
I can watch TV or a film when i'm angry.. Maybe have a load of shwarzenegger films.. that can be a release.. they come to satisfying conclusions, good beats bad.
AsheDina:
Ok, I have done many of the things suggested here- I read many Psalms and Proverbs tonight, and I just cried, b/c I see the hate of mankind who G-d created, and they have no love, and I feel very saddened in my heart right now. More and more, The "c-tian" 'friends' I had, are NOT friends, they are with this movement of kkk or whatever this is.
25 years I knew this one person, and she cant stand me now, at all, b/c I am a Jew, its the truth, nothing more. She knew I was Jewish b4, albeit, I was never religious, more of a spiritual person. I suppose I banked on the fact that I am 'charming' which, in life, I am- the fact remains that I CANNOT and will NOT 'renounce' being a Jew, and this is what they are after. So, the attacks have become more ferocious, and now, to the point that Me, Paulette-a D.A.R. does not love my Country, b/c I CANNOT 'denounce' Israel either. And they say exactly what the horselady said, that I am not an "American first" person. So, I am really very distraught. I am the MOST Patriotic person I even know, but when I hear the Hatikva- I WEEP HARD, sobbing weeping- 10x even more than when I use to hear the US National Anthem. Something in me, is drawing me closer to HaShem, and just wanting to ONLY be near HIS people, like I have ZERO trust anymore with people that are NOT Jews. I even have a new friend, she is a lefty, but I TRUST her, and I DO NOT trust anybody BUT her and David, and thats it. You men think I am going crazy? Because I dont.
Well, back to Psalms- and it is the 139th Psalm.
SHALOM men- and ty.
BTW- NO- I have NOT changed- NO drinking.
q_q_:
--- Quote from: Paulette on July 30, 2008, 03:51:57 AM --- Ok, I have done many of the things suggested here- I read many Psalms and Proverbs tonight, and I just cried, b/c I see the hate of mankind who G-d created, and they have no love, and I feel very saddened in my heart right now. More and more, The "c-tian" 'friends' I had, are NOT friends, they are with this movement of kkk or whatever this is.
25 years I knew this one person, and she cant stand me now, at all, b/c I am a Jew, its the truth, nothing more. She knew I was Jewish b4, albeit, I was never religious, more of a spiritual person. I suppose I banked on the fact that I am 'charming' which, in life, I am- the fact remains that I CANNOT and will NOT 'renounce' being a Jew, and this is what they are after. So, the attacks have become more ferocious, and now, to the point that Me, Paulette-a D.A.R. does not love my Country, b/c I CANNOT 'denounce' Israel either. And they say exactly what the horselady said, that I am not an "American first" person. So, I am really very distraught. I am the MOST Patriotic person I even know, but when I hear the Hatikva- I WEEP HARD, sobbing weeping- 10x even more than when I use to hear the US National Anthem. Something in me, is drawing me closer to HaShem, and just wanting to ONLY be near HIS people, like I have ZERO trust anymore with people that are NOT Jews. I even have a new friend, she is a lefty, but I TRUST her, and I DO NOT trust anybody BUT her and David, and thats it. You men think I am going crazy? Because I dont.
Well, back to Psalms- and it is the 139th Psalm.
SHALOM men- and ty.
BTW- NO- I have NOT changed- NO drinking.
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glad you got rid of the bad rubbish
I suggest, with friends, that any time they do something bad, (and they don't really care, in that they would do it again), then you lower your opinion of them. (rather than forgive and forget).
I'm sure over the 25 years she did many bad things.. So if you did that, then afterwards you wouldn't be -that- bothered if she breaks off completelly.
You did a great thing, sticking to your principles and morals.. usually that is what brings a certain type of friend in the first place.. And is what -rightly- causes former friends to distance themselves from each other. If people change, or a new side to them is revealed, then your relationship has to reflect that, rathaer than hang onto an illusion of what your friend used to be like or what you thought they were like.
I had a friend who has time went on, he kept changing, and in the end I couldn't stand being around him anymore. My opinion of him kept getting lowered over the 10 years I knew him. In the end we just hung around each other for old times sake. He couldn't take it anymore, and he says "I have a knew friend so I don't need to be friendly with you anymore" . That kind of comment coming from him didn't suprise me, 'cos my opinion of him had been suffiently lowered enough times!!!!! So that was it. We used to talk all the time.. I had a discussion with him over what the situation is 'now', whether we ignore each other in the street or not.. His view is not to make a drama out of it so we'd say hello incase people are around. We didn't discuss if we go to each other's funeral, as it stands I guess we won't, it doesn't matter. Haven't seen him since.. I have seen members of his family, and say hello to them.
q_q_:
what is your reason for wanting to be signed up to a nazi mailing list?
I know it's good to know the evil that is out there, but you know. You don't need to keep seeing repeats of what you know. It's not like you're going to forget any time soon. You need to get it out of the front of your mind.
AsheDina:
--- Quote from: q_q_ on July 30, 2008, 12:27:13 PM ---what is your reason for wanting to be signed up to a nazi mailing list?
I know it's good to know the evil that is out there, but you know. You don't need to keep seeing repeats of what you know. It's not like you're going to forget any time soon. You need to get it out of the front of your mind.
--- End quote ---
what is your reason for wanting to be signed up to a nazi mailing list?
I know it's good to know the evil that is out there, but you know. You don't need to keep seeing repeats of what you know. It's not like you're going to forget any time soon. You need to get it out of the front of your mind.
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OH HECK NO q-q!!!
NO!
David has people that were on his email list, and THEY are nazis, when David and I, were on the computer one day, I SAW what they were saying to him, and one of my friends (she is a lefty, but they were SLAUGHTERING her, and she is also Jewish) so, I told David, email me now, DONT fight this all alone- that was in FEB. And their attacks have gotten more and more vicious and ferocious, I actually have emailed the FBI- with ALL of my emails. NO CHOICE. THAT is how EVIL this thread is.
before that, my email thread had David and a lady friend that is 70 yrs old, and really super sweet, that was it.
BUT, as I said- No more of them now, they stopped, b/c today, I was STILL getting them, and THIS time, I told them: I WILL call the Law enforcement in your area, and tell them that you are harassing me with cyber-terror.
I did what I had to do, so David well- he continues the fight. My other friend, Sylvia, she the liberal Jewess, but she has become SO tough - that I just LOVE it now, how she FIGHTS these people, she didint b4 too much, but she sure does now, I am VERY proud of her, and I am 100% WITH her, and she knows it, and now we fight them together- In the end anyway,the Jew ALWAYS stands alone, with each-other.
q_q- I want to tell you, that I apologize, for being so stubborn before. BECAUSE of YOU, I am getting SO MUCH more centered now, I am picking up also where I left off in Hebrew, its hard right now, b/c I am moving. But when in NY, I want to be totally able to speak Hebrew, I HOPE, in a year, and encouraging David to do the same.
q_q, please say prayers for David, (While I know that the people here support Jews), David thinks that these people are just joking- and c-tians just ok- I have told him- NO- NO- and NO. (Please dont take this hard C-tian members)
I have told him, without a shadow of a doubt, these people will NOT be there for us, if i gets really bad, with all of these movements and the muz becoming nazis too. He just thinks they are dumb, & this has me worried, David IS the SWEETEST man in this planet, just plain GOOD- I am perplexed by this. SHALOM q_q- THANK YOU SO MUCH. Please keep David lifted.
BTW- NO, DRINKING IS NO GOOD people, you NEED to have your wits, we have terrible rotten enemies. DONT DRINK, STAY AWAKE.
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