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Orthodox Judaism and technology
« on: June 20, 2008, 09:51:34 AM »
Why is it that many Orthodox Jewish families are against modern day technology in their home like TV's or cellphones, computers, etc. I never really understood that, perhaps someone can explain? I would imagine that it would make life a bit more difficult?

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« Reply #1 on: June 20, 2008, 09:53:26 AM »
I'm glad they don't all feel that way or Chaim wouldn't be able to have this great forum!

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« Reply #2 on: June 20, 2008, 10:02:48 AM »
Even I am opposed to mobile phone and TV. I have none. ;D

TV is only waste of time and my phone on my desk is annoying enough. Sometimes I am very angry if it is ringing all the time. First I am yelling and screaming for a few seconds "No - I have no time. etc." but if I answering the phone I am very nice again. He he he  ;D
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« Reply #3 on: June 20, 2008, 10:02:53 AM »
They are against TV and Internet because they can't control the content there. They don't want their people to be exposed to the bad behavior which is promoted there. In Israel there are now 'Kosher cellphones' they only allow voice calls and I think they also disconnect themselves on Shabat.

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« Reply #4 on: June 20, 2008, 10:09:51 AM »
Even I am opposed to mobile phone and TV. I have none. ;D

TV is only waste of time and my phone on my desk is annoying enough. Sometimes I am very angry if it is ringing all the time. First I am yelling and screaming for a few seconds "No - I have no time. etc." but if I answering the phone I am very nice again. He he he  ;D

I don't have tv service anymore, used to have satellite, so the plasma display collecting dust although it works as a monitor too.

And I destroyed my cell phone when I jumped in the pool.

I gotta agree, everytime my cellphone rings, I toss it accross the room, there are so many dents on there, but I just call them battle scars.

They are against TV and Internet because they can't control the content there. They don't want their people to be exposed to the bad behavior which is promoted there. In Israel there are now 'Kosher cellphones' they only allow voice calls and I think they also disconnect themselves on Shabat.

Right there is a lot of bad stuff out there but at the same time, isn't this a form of censorship? Remember that internet can be used for good and evil purposes. Like JTF, we use it for good for mass communication of Jews around the world.

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« Reply #5 on: June 20, 2008, 10:29:21 AM »
Yes, they want censorship. They think everything must get an approval by their rabbis before being published. Their newspapers for example ignore certain subjects completely. You want find words or themes dealing with homosexuals or sex at all except in a very indirect way when there is no way to avoid it (such as the gay parade in Jerusalem that they try to stop).

The reality is that many charedim are connected to the internet even though many rabbis disapprove it. However TV is almost universally absent from their homes.

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« Reply #6 on: June 20, 2008, 10:58:49 AM »
I do not own a television. Why would I want that garbage in my house wasting my time? Is there ANYTHING wholesome or good on TV these days?

They tell you what to wear... what to eat... what to think. Sexual images pop up on every channel telling people that they aren't good enough unless they buy into more materialism. The propaganda is obnoxious and I can't filter out any of the content. There are more commercials than TV now. The people they choose for all these "[false] reality" shows are completely immoral and lost. There are hundreds of channels and you still can't find anything good to watch. You can't even really watch TV without a $50-$100 cable bill every month adding up to $600-$1200 a year while supporting cable companies who claim they give you "The Power of You" - what power do they give you? What a joke.

Kids are raised on rap videos, underwear commercials, feminine hygiene and herpes commercials. Every year there are more and more shows promoting homosexuals and foul language/conduct. You can't find a show on prime-time that doesn't somehow violate the Torah. No one reads anymore because they are so memorized by obnoxious flashing/moving/hyper multimedia presentations and then we wonder why all these kids suffer from short attention spans. The people in the entertainment industry and Hollywood are morally bankrupt and by watching these people (people you would never let in your home) you support them and continue the problem. People prioritize television over their families and people don't even eat at the table anymore. The professional athletes (what a meaningful life!) are paid millions and millions, treat the fans and even kids like garbage, do drugs, are thrown in jail, rape, and are somehow seen as role models that young people should aspire to be and we wonder why we have problems. Just the fact that the entertainment industry is seen with such importance that these people are paid more than anyone else (more than people who do cancer research or any type of important cause) shows that the priorities of western culture are far from where they need to be.

I could just keep going. Television is worthless. The Orthodox community usually shies away from television out of intelligence and wisdom.
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« Reply #7 on: June 20, 2008, 11:07:10 AM »
I do not own a television. Why would I want that garbage in my house wasting my time? Is there ANYTHING wholesome or good on TV these days?

They tell you what to wear... what to eat... what to think. Sexual images pop up on every channel telling people that they aren't good enough unless they buy into more materialism. The propaganda is obnoxious and I can't filter out any of the content. There are more commercials than TV now. The people they choose for all these "[false] reality" shows are completely immoral and lost. There are hundreds of channels and you still can't find anything good to watch. You can't even really watch TV without a $50-$100 cable bill every month adding up to $600-$1200 a year while supporting cable companies who claim they give you "The Power of You" - what power do they give you? What a joke.

Kids are raised on rap videos, underwear commercials, feminine hygiene and herpes commercials. Every year there are more and more shows promoting homosexuals and foul language/conduct. You can't find a show on prime-time that doesn't somehow violate the Torah. No one reads anymore because they are so memorized by obnoxious flashing/moving/hyper multimedia presentations and then we wonder why all these kids suffer from short attention spans. The people in the entertainment industry and Hollywood are morally bankrupt and by watching these people (people you would never let in your home) you support them and continue the problem. People prioritize television over their families and people don't even eat at the table anymore. The professional athletes (what a meaningful life!) are paid millions and millions, treat the fans and even kids like garbage, do drugs, are thrown in jail, rape, and are somehow seen as role models that young people should aspire to be and we wonder why we have problems. Just the fact that the entertainment industry is seen with such importance that these people are paid more than anyone else (more than people who do cancer research or any type of important cause) shows that the priorities of western culture are far from where they need to be.

I could just keep going. Television is worthless. The Orthodox community usually shies away from television out of intelligence and wisdom.

Oh won't disagree with that, there is a lot of garbage on tv nowadays. The only thing I really used to watch on tv was the discovery channel, military channel, history channel, travel channel, WWE wrestling, and UFC.

I can download most of these shows in HD format anyways now and just watch them from my laptop to tv with HDMI connection.

I love to watch the discovery tv shows like blue planet or on nature.

other than that though, majority of the tv is very bad.

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« Reply #8 on: June 20, 2008, 11:43:57 AM »
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The only thing I really used to watch on tv was the discovery channel, military channel, history channel, travel channel, WWE wrestling, and UFC.  I can download most of these shows in HD format anyways now and just watch them from my laptop to tv with HDMI connection.

I love to watch the discovery tv shows like blue planet or on nature.

other than that though, majority of the tv is very bad.

Yes... those are some great channels. 

But most of the time... .my wife monopolizes the TV watching the cooking channel.

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« Reply #9 on: June 20, 2008, 01:14:09 PM »
Why is it that many Orthodox Jewish families are against modern day technology in their home like TV's or cellphones, computers, etc. I never really understood that, perhaps someone can explain? I would imagine that it would make life a bit more difficult?

 Everything Shlomo said, and about cell phones I dont understand where you got that from? Almost all people have cell phones now a days, and I dont think that it was that much of a problem, unless one has access to dirty pictures in them. About internet the Rabbis had to say not to use it, because their are also many problems in it. For example access to pornography, facebook, myspace and other things like that. Even though their are porn filters, and everyone should have one, as we say expecialy these couple of days unfortunatly still dirty pictures have gone through somehow. Also many problems for the world as a whole with myspace yourface. And on top of that married men and women "chatting" with other men and women (opposite gender) and soo many problems can and have arisen- like for example a married women falling in love with another guy she meet in facebook.  Not to mention expecialy the children (potentially) getting exposed to all the sins at once in one place.
The Academy of Elijah taught, whoever studies the laws (of the Torah) every day, (he) is guaranteed to have a share in the World to Come.

‏119:139 צִמְּתַתְנִי קִנְאָתִי כִּישָׁכְחוּ דְבָרֶיךָ צָרָי
My zeal incenses me, for my adversaries have forgotten Your words.
‏119:141 צָעִיר אָנֹכִי וְנִבְזֶה פִּקֻּדֶיךָ, לֹא שָׁכָחְתִּי.
 I am young and despised; I have not forgotten Your precepts.

" A fool does not realize, and an unwise person does not understand this (i.e. the following:) When the wicked bloom like grass, and the evildoers blossom (i.e. when they seem extremly successful), it is to destroy them forever (i.e. they are rewarded for their few good deeds in this World, and they will have no portion in the World to Come!)

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« Reply #10 on: June 20, 2008, 01:34:55 PM »
I agree with Shlomo about television being a complete waste. I think all these reality shows are stupid.  I just don't understand why people enjoy seeing others humiliate themselves or otherwise get humiliated.  I don't have any television service or cable, but I do have cable broadband internet service.  My television is used to watch movies on DVD, or to do workouts on DVD. 

In terms of the internet, it depends on what it's used for.  It's good for forums like this one, for reading right wing blogs, and news sites, as opposed to paying for newspapers.  You can also use it to research any topic you're interested in. 

There's also the aspect of keeping in touch with friends and family. 


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« Reply #11 on: June 20, 2008, 02:10:43 PM »
Why is it that many Orthodox Jewish families are against modern day technology in their home like TV's or cellphones, computers, etc. I never really understood that, perhaps someone can explain? I would imagine that it would make life a bit more difficult?

 Everything Shlomo said, and about cell phones I dont understand where you got that from? Almost all people have cell phones now a days, and I dont think that it was that much of a problem, unless one has access to dirty pictures in them. About internet the Rabbis had to say not to use it, because their are also many problems in it. For example access to pornography, facebook, myspace and other things like that. Even though their are porn filters, and everyone should have one, as we say expecialy these couple of days unfortunatly still dirty pictures have gone through somehow. Also many problems for the world as a whole with myspace yourface. And on top of that married men and women "chatting" with other men and women (opposite gender) and soo many problems can and have arisen- like for example a married women falling in love with another guy she meet in facebook.  Not to mention expecialy the children (potentially) getting exposed to all the sins at once in one place.

I guess I can understand that, but do we really need a safety net to tell us what's right and wrong on the internet? The internet really isnt all the different from the real world. You have these adult sites, yes, but just like in the real world (including Israel), there are smutty areas with porn and nudity, so a person should know better not to access these.

My first computer I obtained when I was 3 years old, my father built it for me and it cost well over the 5,000 dollar mark. I grew up on DOS and learned how to type at a very young age, as a result, I type faster than the average person and have memorized the keys (if I was blind, I could still type). Yes I admit I did get involved in some bad things online (learning about hacking, pornography, piracy), over time, much of my efforts became for good use, protecting people from hackers and running a successful business. Yes while it is bad that men can cheat on their wives or vice versa with facebook, the same can also apply online. I have been lucky to meet people online that I otherwise would have never met.

I would never have landed the job I have today if I didn't have the knowledge of computers and was sheltered from them, much of my life revolves around computers.

In many ways, the internet has just made things easier, it has made the world seem like a smaller place and has made independent research available. I have learned more online about history, science, religion, and technology in a period of a day than I have during a whole semester of public school.

We have to remember, the internet is just a tool nearly unregulated made up of independent sources and people, it's also made up of many folks who want censorship and control (Nazis, Fascists, Communists, Authoritarians). We don't want to end up like China or the Arab countries which censor many sites because of propaganda for the "good of the people."

I hope people understand where I am coming from? Yes sites like StørmFrønt are a problem, but you have to remember, ignorance and pretending something doesn't exist does not make the problem go away. It's equivalent to one sticking their head in the sand and pretending everythings ok.

While I completely understand the Orthodox Jewish community not wanting Jews to get involved with internet because of the exposure to anti-semitic websites and brainwashing, we can't pretend we are the bubble boy and that nothing else exists outside of it. In a way, freedom of speech is a double edged sword, you have the Nazis in Germany where the swastika is banned and denial of the holocaust is outlawed, but what has it done? Its just moved Nazi groups underground. People get too comfortable with their rights and start spouting to kill and murder a person, they've just been exposed.

I feel the internet is a valuable tool and we should continue to use it for educational purposes of our cause.

You can only shelter people for so long, but eventually they discover it, be it on their own or not. I knew one of the most religious families in our area, very very strict on what their children could watch. Eventually this influence worked in reverse on the children and they became involved in partying, drinking, drugs, sex, you name it. That's not to say all kids are like this, but it seems rather weird that children are rebellious to their parents like this, maybe this is part of our culture today, I don't know.
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« Reply #12 on: June 20, 2008, 03:07:57 PM »
Why is it that many Orthodox Jewish families are against modern day technology in their home like TV's or cellphones, computers, etc. I never really understood that, perhaps someone can explain? I would imagine that it would make life a bit more difficult?


1. Life wasn't difficult back then without those things so I disagree with the second part of your statement.

2. Many orthodox do use cell phones and computers.  TV's i can understand them not having..with all the sick vile that exists in the media.  However, TV's can be used for positive purposes also.
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« Reply #13 on: June 20, 2008, 03:10:51 PM »
Why is it that many Orthodox Jewish families are against modern day technology in their home like TV's or cellphones, computers, etc. I never really understood that, perhaps someone can explain? I would imagine that it would make life a bit more difficult?

 Everything Shlomo said, and about cell phones I dont understand where you got that from? Almost all people have cell phones now a days, and I dont think that it was that much of a problem, unless one has access to dirty pictures in them. About internet the Rabbis had to say not to use it, because their are also many problems in it. For example access to pornography, facebook, myspace and other things like that. Even though their are porn filters, and everyone should have one, as we say expecialy these couple of days unfortunatly still dirty pictures have gone through somehow. Also many problems for the world as a whole with myspace yourface. And on top of that married men and women "chatting" with other men and women (opposite gender) and soo many problems can and have arisen- like for example a married women falling in love with another guy she meet in facebook.  Not to mention expecialy the children (potentially) getting exposed to all the sins at once in one place.


Odd, i'm strating to agree with you more and more, Tzvi.
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« Reply #14 on: June 20, 2008, 03:45:49 PM »
Why is it that many Orthodox Jewish families are against modern day technology in their home like TV's or cellphones, computers, etc. I never really understood that, perhaps someone can explain? I would imagine that it would make life a bit more difficult?

 Everything Shlomo said, and about cell phones I dont understand where you got that from? Almost all people have cell phones now a days, and I dont think that it was that much of a problem, unless one has access to dirty pictures in them. About internet the Rabbis had to say not to use it, because their are also many problems in it. For example access to pornography, facebook, myspace and other things like that. Even though their are porn filters, and everyone should have one, as we say expecialy these couple of days unfortunatly still dirty pictures have gone through somehow. Also many problems for the world as a whole with myspace yourface. And on top of that married men and women "chatting" with other men and women (opposite gender) and soo many problems can and have arisen- like for example a married women falling in love with another guy she meet in facebook.  Not to mention expecialy the children (potentially) getting exposed to all the sins at once in one place.

I guess I can understand that, but do we really need a safety net to tell us what's right and wrong on the internet? The internet really isnt all the different from the real world. You have these adult sites, yes, but just like in the real world (including Israel), there are smutty areas with porn and nudity, so a person should know better not to access these.

My first computer I obtained when I was 3 years old, my father built it for me and it cost well over the 5,000 dollar mark. I grew up on DOS and learned how to type at a very young age, as a result, I type faster than the average person and have memorized the keys (if I was blind, I could still type). Yes I admit I did get involved in some bad things online (learning about hacking, pornography, piracy), over time, much of my efforts became for good use, protecting people from hackers and running a successful business. Yes while it is bad that men can cheat on their wives or vice versa with facebook, the same can also apply online. I have been lucky to meet people online that I otherwise would have never met.

I would never have landed the job I have today if I didn't have the knowledge of computers and was sheltered from them, much of my life revolves around computers.

In many ways, the internet has just made things easier, it has made the world seem like a smaller place and has made independent research available. I have learned more online about history, science, religion, and technology in a period of a day than I have during a whole semester of public school.

We have to remember, the internet is just a tool nearly unregulated made up of independent sources and people, it's also made up of many folks who want censorship and control (Nazis, Fascists, Communists, Authoritarians). We don't want to end up like China or the Arab countries which censor many sites because of propaganda for the "good of the people."

I hope people understand where I am coming from? Yes sites like StørmFrønt are a problem, but you have to remember, ignorance and pretending something doesn't exist does not make the problem go away. It's equivalent to one sticking their head in the sand and pretending everythings ok.

While I completely understand the Orthodox Jewish community not wanting Jews to get involved with internet because of the exposure to anti-semitic websites and brainwashing, we can't pretend we are the bubble boy and that nothing else exists outside of it. In a way, freedom of speech is a double edged sword, you have the Nazis in Germany where the swastika is banned and denial of the holocaust is outlawed, but what has it done? Its just moved Nazi groups underground. People get too comfortable with their rights and start spouting to kill and murder a person, they've just been exposed.

I feel the internet is a valuable tool and we should continue to use it for educational purposes of our cause.

You can only shelter people for so long, but eventually they discover it, be it on their own or not. I knew one of the most religious families in our area, very very strict on what their children could watch. Eventually this influence worked in reverse on the children and they became involved in partying, drinking, drugs, sex, you name it. That's not to say all kids are like this, but it seems rather weird that children are rebellious to their parents like this, maybe this is part of our culture today, I don't know.

  Safety- YES!
 You and I know that their is almost no one if anyone that is 100% attached to Hashe-m like crazy glue. Chazal said dont trust yourself until the day you die. Bottom line is that your human, and you need to protect yourself from your animalistic desires and state of being from damaging yourself. How to do that? - for one is to learn a lot of Torah, keep learning and learning and acquiring Yirah (both fear and deeper understanding of G-d). Learn the dangers and damages these sins bring, etc. Then once you have the upper hand (temporarily), dont let yourself into a situation where you can come to sin. So in this case, dont say, ooh im such a Tzaddik, I just learned that doing XYZ is forbidden and I wont do it, how can you expect me to do it (expecialy if one has fallen to it in the past, the road is always their, thats why you need to make as many road blocks as possible). So what do you do- you MUST make a protection, in this case expecially with porn, put up a filter (yes they are even free- I will post a link later), actully not only that, but get together with a friend or family member, tell them that you are a man who has desires and that you can G-d forbid come to sin, so have them make a password and not tell you.
 On the other way around you can say no what does this guy think he is talking about, etc. But statistically what I am saying is true. Or say - wheres the choice then, and other things the Yetzer Hara tells us, BUT the bottom line is that their can be a million different reasons why someone can go visit the wrong sites (expecialy porn), when not being in the proper state of mind for whatever reason (a lot of times expecialy because of anger and depression)- and I am talking about those people who have some Yirah Shemayim, how much more soo those who dont, and dont really care about G-d, or say whats the big deal, etc. (G-d forbid). For example- lets say their is a guy, he is a stockbroker, believes in G-d (but not enough- not totally as you will see why) he is on his laptop (unprotected at all) and during this hour his stocks plumet, he is pissed, depressed and angry, at that moment because he is in that state of mind the Divine Presence (assuming even if he has some of it) leaves him completly (because it doesnt rest with those who are angry, depressed, etc.). What do you think he will likly be doing at that moment with a laptop? (the truth is that he can bounce back if he wants to, say its all from G-d and move on, or he can be taken over by the "other side" and come to sin (G-d forbid).  And this is a grown man, how much more soo protecting the children?
 
   Also yes you are right about the street  having bad things, BUT the difference between the street and the internet is that here one can do anything in a few clicks away, with the street one can talk himself out of it because he has more time to think things through, its not just a quick click.
 
  (I can talk a lot more about this), but you are right it can be a tool, but if you have a dangerous tool you have to also have the proper protection agains't something harmful happening to you or your kids. 
 (But also with many people that are more religious, their is more then that even, it is also the reading material, or the fact that one can waste a lot of precious time, just playing video games, or chatting etc.)
 
The Academy of Elijah taught, whoever studies the laws (of the Torah) every day, (he) is guaranteed to have a share in the World to Come.

‏119:139 צִמְּתַתְנִי קִנְאָתִי כִּישָׁכְחוּ דְבָרֶיךָ צָרָי
My zeal incenses me, for my adversaries have forgotten Your words.
‏119:141 צָעִיר אָנֹכִי וְנִבְזֶה פִּקֻּדֶיךָ, לֹא שָׁכָחְתִּי.
 I am young and despised; I have not forgotten Your precepts.

" A fool does not realize, and an unwise person does not understand this (i.e. the following:) When the wicked bloom like grass, and the evildoers blossom (i.e. when they seem extremly successful), it is to destroy them forever (i.e. they are rewarded for their few good deeds in this World, and they will have no portion in the World to Come!)

Please visit: (The Greatest lectures on Earth).
http://torahanytime.com/
http://www.torahanytime.com/Rabbi/Yossi_Mizrachi/
http://www.torahanytime.com/Rabbi/Zecharia_Wallerstein/

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« Reply #15 on: June 20, 2008, 03:58:06 PM »
Here's the link by the way for those too shy to ask- http://www.tikunhabrit.com/links/internet-filters
The Academy of Elijah taught, whoever studies the laws (of the Torah) every day, (he) is guaranteed to have a share in the World to Come.

‏119:139 צִמְּתַתְנִי קִנְאָתִי כִּישָׁכְחוּ דְבָרֶיךָ צָרָי
My zeal incenses me, for my adversaries have forgotten Your words.
‏119:141 צָעִיר אָנֹכִי וְנִבְזֶה פִּקֻּדֶיךָ, לֹא שָׁכָחְתִּי.
 I am young and despised; I have not forgotten Your precepts.

" A fool does not realize, and an unwise person does not understand this (i.e. the following:) When the wicked bloom like grass, and the evildoers blossom (i.e. when they seem extremly successful), it is to destroy them forever (i.e. they are rewarded for their few good deeds in this World, and they will have no portion in the World to Come!)

Please visit: (The Greatest lectures on Earth).
http://torahanytime.com/
http://www.torahanytime.com/Rabbi/Yossi_Mizrachi/
http://www.torahanytime.com/Rabbi/Zecharia_Wallerstein/

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« Reply #16 on: June 21, 2008, 11:38:54 PM »
Why is it that many Orthodox Jewish families are against modern day technology in their home like TV's or cellphones, computers, etc. I never really understood that, perhaps someone can explain? I would imagine that it would make life a bit more difficult?

 Everything Shlomo said, and about cell phones I dont understand where you got that from? Almost all people have cell phones now a days, and I dont think that it was that much of a problem, unless one has access to dirty pictures in them. About internet the Rabbis had to say not to use it, because their are also many problems in it. For example access to pornography, facebook, myspace and other things like that. Even though their are porn filters, and everyone should have one, as we say expecialy these couple of days unfortunatly still dirty pictures have gone through somehow. Also many problems for the world as a whole with myspace yourface. And on top of that married men and women "chatting" with other men and women (opposite gender) and soo many problems can and have arisen- like for example a married women falling in love with another guy she meet in facebook.  Not to mention expecialy the children (potentially) getting exposed to all the sins at once in one place.


Odd, i'm strating to agree with you more and more, Tzvi.

  O0 I always had faith in you. Im guessing you are learning more Torah, perhaps putting on Tefillin every day and saying Shema. May you continue to do soo, Bli Ayin Hara.
The Academy of Elijah taught, whoever studies the laws (of the Torah) every day, (he) is guaranteed to have a share in the World to Come.

‏119:139 צִמְּתַתְנִי קִנְאָתִי כִּישָׁכְחוּ דְבָרֶיךָ צָרָי
My zeal incenses me, for my adversaries have forgotten Your words.
‏119:141 צָעִיר אָנֹכִי וְנִבְזֶה פִּקֻּדֶיךָ, לֹא שָׁכָחְתִּי.
 I am young and despised; I have not forgotten Your precepts.

" A fool does not realize, and an unwise person does not understand this (i.e. the following:) When the wicked bloom like grass, and the evildoers blossom (i.e. when they seem extremly successful), it is to destroy them forever (i.e. they are rewarded for their few good deeds in this World, and they will have no portion in the World to Come!)

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Re: Orthodox Judaism and technology
« Reply #17 on: July 15, 2008, 05:02:01 PM »
Shlomo-

Amazingly excellent point you make about television....I think that this is a topic that reaches beyond secularism, Judaism and Christianity.  All parents, all people need to follow this belief if you ask me.  One thing that myself, a gentile, a female and an admitted sheep to the media at times,  not strong in any religion no matter how flawed, believe we are lacking in this country.  One thing is morals.  This degradation is brought on by hate, all media, the corrupt sects of government including school systems and video games.  Sometimes I just say wipe it all out.  I just wanted to throw in my comment no matter how under intellectualized it is.....

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