The only issue

[Scriabin]

A fat, bald, average-looking middle aged man who is confidant and well-groomed can get plenty of Women.

If he has cash flow.

Nonsence.

Men have the false notion that Women are interested in good looks and big muscles.

I get a kick out of men who build thier muscles in hopes of attracting Women.  (They're much more likely to attract homosexual men.)

I urge you, study body language.  You can learn to appear confidant even when you're not. 

Also, dress well. This is much more important than good looks and big muscles.

And work on your confidance, it can only improve.

That's right, women don't like good-looking, big-muscled men.  Because those type of men are typically vain about their appearance, also the woman might feel jealous because she's not the good-looking one of the couple.

Good-looks are a very small part of what attracts a Woman to a potential mate.

Different girls like different things...Some like a rich guy, some like a pretty guy, some like a muscular guy, some like an older guy, some like a younger guy, some like a nice guy, some like an a--hole guy...

I'm saying that Women are less interested in 'looks' than men are.

[muslimslayer0075995]

i believe that feminazis have ruined the way people look at masculinity, i mean it has become a joke, in a way those liberal [censored], are ruining society they have decided there put up with being second class citizens and there making there men there [censored] 

[Scriabin]

i believe that feminazis have ruined the way people look at masculinity, i mean it has become a joke, in a way those liberal [censored], are ruining society they have decided there put up with being second class citizens and there making there men there [censored] 

Its true.  If only our Women were Ladies.  The men could become Men with a capital 'M'.

[muslimslayer0075995]

  its true i wish we could, personaly i wish we could spelll men like MEN but those days are long gone unless u visit iran, in which case u will die from the way they smell or as a jew they will hang u, w.e stay away from there all together lol

[Dr. Dan]

A fat, bald, average-looking middle aged man who is confidant and well-groomed can get plenty of Women.

If he has cash flow.

Nonsence.

Men have the false notion that Women are interested in good looks and big muscles.

I get a kick out of men who build thier muscles in hopes of attracting Women.  (They're much more likely to attract homosexual men.)

I urge you, study body language.  You can learn to appear confidant even when you're not. 

Also, dress well. This is much more important than good looks and big muscles.

And work on your confidance, it can only improve.

That's right, women don't like good-looking, big-muscled men.  Because those type of men are typically vain about their appearance, also the woman might feel jealous because she's not the good-looking one of the couple.

Good-looks are a very small part of what attracts a Woman to a potential mate.

Different girls like different things...Some like a rich guy, some like a pretty guy, some like a muscular guy, some like an older guy, some like a younger guy, some like a nice guy, some like an a--hole guy...

I'm saying that Women are less interested in 'looks' than men are.

let's just say it's not the looks...the way women look at men is different than the way men look at women.  Men dont' really notice the detail right way..they are thinking of sex one way or another. Women, on the other hand, are looking at a 1000 different things at once and not just looks and what package he might be carrying.  I don't understand how women think since Im' not a woman myself and even if one tried to explain it to me, I would never really understand it like she would.

But i disagree with how you are broadly putting it.  Women are interested in looks, but it's not the same way men are interested in looks..and there is more than just looks..it's a bunch of things we men are too dumb to understand.

[Scriabin]

A fat, bald, average-looking middle aged man who is confidant and well-groomed can get plenty of Women.

If he has cash flow.

Nonsence.

Men have the false notion that Women are interested in good looks and big muscles.

I get a kick out of men who build thier muscles in hopes of attracting Women.  (They're much more likely to attract homosexual men.)

I urge you, study body language.  You can learn to appear confidant even when you're not. 

Also, dress well. This is much more important than good looks and big muscles.

And work on your confidance, it can only improve.

That's right, women don't like good-looking, big-muscled men.  Because those type of men are typically vain about their appearance, also the woman might feel jealous because she's not the good-looking one of the couple.

Good-looks are a very small part of what attracts a Woman to a potential mate.

Different girls like different things...Some like a rich guy, some like a pretty guy, some like a muscular guy, some like an older guy, some like a younger guy, some like a nice guy, some like an a--hole guy...

I'm saying that Women are less interested in 'looks' than men are.

let's just say it's not the looks...the way women look at men is different than the way men look at women.  Men dont' really notice the detail right way..they are thinking of sex one way or another. Women, on the other hand, are looking at a 1000 different things at once and not just looks and what package he might be carrying.  I don't understand how women think since Im' not a woman myself and even if one tried to explain it to me, I would never really understand it like she would.

But i disagree with how you are broadly putting it.  Women are interested in looks, but it's not the same way men are interested in looks..and there is more than just looks..it's a bunch of things we men are too dumb to understand.

I now have conclusive proof that you are a full-fledged graduate of the modern public schol system.

You make me want to vomit.

In your eyes, Women are G-ds and men are silly, primitive beings.

The fact of the matter is that Men are objective, Women sit and pontificate about every little thing.

And don't call yourself 'Doctor'.  You're not an MD, you cannot perscribe medication.

I have a Doctorate in Music, you don't see mee calling myself 'Dr. Scriabin'.

[briann]

This is why you can frequently see slovenly men with beautiful women.

It's called money, Scriabin.

And I guarantee you that these skanks married to fat, ugly 65-year old millionaires are getting action on the side from males considerably younger and more virile.

Money, yes.

Also, confidence, grooming, body language, etc.

A fat, bald, average-looking middle aged man who is confidant and well-groomed can get plenty of Women.

Yes. Confidence  and body language DOES matter. 

[Scriabin]

This is why you can frequently see slovenly men with beautiful women.

It's called money, Scriabin.

And I guarantee you that these skanks married to fat, ugly 65-year old millionaires are getting action on the side from males considerably younger and more virile.

Money, yes.

Also, confidence, grooming, body language, etc.

A fat, bald, average-looking middle aged man who is confidant and well-groomed can get plenty of Women.

Yes. Confidence  and body language DOES matter. 

Amen.

[Dr. Dan]

A fat, bald, average-looking middle aged man who is confidant and well-groomed can get plenty of Women.

If he has cash flow.

Nonsence.

Men have the false notion that Women are interested in good looks and big muscles.

I get a kick out of men who build thier muscles in hopes of attracting Women.  (They're much more likely to attract homosexual men.)

I urge you, study body language.  You can learn to appear confidant even when you're not. 

Also, dress well. This is much more important than good looks and big muscles.

And work on your confidance, it can only improve.

That's right, women don't like good-looking, big-muscled men.  Because those type of men are typically vain about their appearance, also the woman might feel jealous because she's not the good-looking one of the couple.

Good-looks are a very small part of what attracts a Woman to a potential mate.

Different girls like different things...Some like a rich guy, some like a pretty guy, some like a muscular guy, some like an older guy, some like a younger guy, some like a nice guy, some like an a--hole guy...

I'm saying that Women are less interested in 'looks' than men are.

let's just say it's not the looks...the way women look at men is different than the way men look at women.  Men dont' really notice the detail right way..they are thinking of sex one way or another. Women, on the other hand, are looking at a 1000 different things at once and not just looks and what package he might be carrying.  I don't understand how women think since Im' not a woman myself and even if one tried to explain it to me, I would never really understand it like she would.

But i disagree with how you are broadly putting it.  Women are interested in looks, but it's not the same way men are interested in looks..and there is more than just looks..it's a bunch of things we men are too dumb to understand.

I now have conclusive proof that you are a full-fledged graduate of the modern public schol system.

You make me want to vomit.

In your eyes, Women are G-ds and men are silly, primitive beings.

The fact of the matter is that Men are objective, Women sit and pontificate about every little thing.

And don't call yourself 'Doctor'.  You're not an MD, you cannot perscribe medication.

I have a Doctorate in Music, you don't see mee calling myself 'Dr. Scriabin'.

oh scriabin, look who's being naive now...

Let's start with point one: me being a victim of the public school system...Scriabin scriabin scriabin...I have dated a lot, I have no sisters, my closest friends growing up were girls, and a bunch more stuff that i prefer not to mention publically here.  I am no expert on women.  However, I do know one thing: they are different than men, I can't live without them (nor can any normal man), women are something special and sweet inside and outside (yes some are terrible too), men are also important and valuable...women can't live without them either (but some men are terrible as well).  

here's the thing Scriabin, WE, men, DO think with our little tiny brains that are hanging (for some of us) in the middle of our body.  When we see a woman, most of us think in a split second about what she looks like naked, havign sex wtih her, marrying her, and divorcing her.  It's a fact.  Even the most moral of us men, we do that.  It's what drives us.  Women are a little different..what that difference is, I'm not sure..i just know they aren't like us men when it comes down to noticing the opposite sex.

On yoru second point defaming me that I'm not really a doctor and cannot prescribe medicine...I'm the type of doctor that happens to prescribe medicine on a daily basis.  I'm the kind of doctor that does surgery in the mouth with blood and stitches. So...just beware...you trying to hurt my feelings by defaming me will only go backwards in your face to anyone who comes across these posts.  Be careful of what you say and how you say things to me...you will end up the fool with his head between his legs womanless and lonely for the rest of your life bitter at the opposite sex for not loving you because you think men "should be MEN".  

So cut the ego, have an intelligent conversation with me and learn something for your own good for a change!

[Scriabin]

oh scriabin, look who's being naive now...

Let's start with point one: me being a victim of the public school system...Scriabin scriabin scriabin...I have dated a lot, I have no sisters, my closest friends growing up were girls, and a bunch more stuff that i prefer not to mention publically here.  I am no expert on women.  However, I do know one thing: they are different than men, I can't live without them (nor can any normal man), women are something special and sweet inside and outside (yes some are terrible too), men are also important and valuable...women can't live without them either (but some men are terrible as well).  

here's the thing Scriabin, WE, men, DO think with our little tiny brains that are hanging (for some of us) in the middle of our body.  When we see a woman, most of us think in a split second about what she looks like naked, havign sex wtih her, marrying her, and divorcing her.  It's a fact.  Even the most moral of us men, we do that.  It's what drives us.  Women are a little different..what that difference is, I'm not sure..i just know they aren't like us men when it comes down to noticing the opposite sex.

On yoru second point defaming me that I'm not really a doctor and cannot prescribe medicine...I'm the type of doctor that happens to prescribe medicine on a daily basis.  I'm the kind of doctor that does surgery in the mouth with blood and stitches. So...just beware...you trying to hurt my feelings by defaming me will only go backwards in your face to anyone who comes across these posts.  Be careful of what you say and how you say things to me...you will end up the fool with his head between his legs womanless and lonely for the rest of your life bitter at the opposite sex for not loving you because you think men "should be MEN".  

So cut the ego, have an intelligent conversation with me and learn something for your own good for a change!

1)  My mistake, you can prescribe something, but you're not an MD, your not a Doctor.  Call yourself 'Dan the Dentist'.

2)  I am not concerned with things going "backwards in (my) face".

[Dr. Dan]

oh scriabin, look who's being naive now...

Let's start with point one: me being a victim of the public school system...Scriabin scriabin scriabin...I have dated a lot, I have no sisters, my closest friends growing up were girls, and a bunch more stuff that i prefer not to mention publically here.  I am no expert on women.  However, I do know one thing: they are different than men, I can't live without them (nor can any normal man), women are something special and sweet inside and outside (yes some are terrible too), men are also important and valuable...women can't live without them either (but some men are terrible as well).  

here's the thing Scriabin, WE, men, DO think with our little tiny brains that are hanging (for some of us) in the middle of our body.  When we see a woman, most of us think in a split second about what she looks like naked, havign sex wtih her, marrying her, and divorcing her.  It's a fact.  Even the most moral of us men, we do that.  It's what drives us.  Women are a little different..what that difference is, I'm not sure..i just know they aren't like us men when it comes down to noticing the opposite sex.

On yoru second point defaming me that I'm not really a doctor and cannot prescribe medicine...I'm the type of doctor that happens to prescribe medicine on a daily basis.  I'm the kind of doctor that does surgery in the mouth with blood and stitches. So...just beware...you trying to hurt my feelings by defaming me will only go backwards in your face to anyone who comes across these posts.  Be careful of what you say and how you say things to me...you will end up the fool with his head between his legs womanless and lonely for the rest of your life bitter at the opposite sex for not loving you because you think men "should be MEN".  

So cut the ego, have an intelligent conversation with me and learn something for your own good for a change!

1)  My mistake, you can prescribe something, but you're not an MD, your not a Doctor.  Call yourself 'Dan the Dentist'.

2)  I am not concerned with things going "backwards in (my) face".

ummm...I went through the same education and even a little more grueling work than a regular MD.  Not sure what country you come from, but Dentists and Dental Surgeons are Doctors just like any other.  We are specialists of the mouth...and if that isn't really a doctor to you..then neurologists who only specialize in teh brain are not really doctors either...pure insanity if you ask me and anyone else.

Scriabin...ego is a terrible thing...look where the former members of JTF have gone due to ego...I predict the same for you in the future unless you swallow your pride and maintain respect.

[Scriabin]

Scriabin...ego is a terrible thing...look where the former members of JTF have gone due to ego...I predict the same for you in the future unless you swallow your pride and maintain respect.

1) Don't mistake ego for Intelligence.

2) I couldn't care less about your threats, dentist.

[Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks]

Scriabin, you are mistaken. Women do go for looks--believe me. I am very familiar with what women are looking for. The first thing a woman looks for, appearance-wise, is height. If you look like Cary Grant but are 5'4", believe me, you won't get as much as a hug. Next, women do want a guy who is basically in good shape. I will grant that you are correct that few women make having a musclebound hulk a priority, but I can promise you that nobody will look at a 400-pound lard donkey if he doesn't have a ton of money.

And yes--older women do check out younger men, all the time. Go to a hockey game sometime and see all the fifty-sixtysomething boomers ogling the players during practice. (And I doubt they are doing so because these athletes are rich.)

Finally--the importance of this is exaggerated, but there is a significant portion of women--maybe 20 or 30%--for whom size does matter. Lots of female check out crotches in the same way that men are attracted to the chest. You can't deny that many females do this. It may not be talked about as much as boobs are, but it's very real, and the notion that a particular guy might be blessed downstairs certainly does not harm his chances romantically. Surely everybody has heard of the black-men cult that exists among women because of a persistent stereotype about African-origin males.

The idea that women only want confidence and poise is a sheer stereotype. Confidence and poise will not help a 500-pound, 80-year old bald dude unless he is positively loaded. Men want confidence too, by the way. Nothing kills commitment desires in single men like a weak, spineless girl who is constantly clingy and has no self-respect.

[Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks]

1) Don't mistake ego for Intelligence.

2) I couldn't care less about your threats, dentist.

The only ego I see right now is yours.

[MassuhDGoodName]

C.F.  

Once again, you betray your complete and total lack of knowledge about human nature.

At least you're consistent.

[Scriabin]

Scriabin, you are mistaken. Women do go for looks--believe me. I am very familiar with what women are looking for. The first thing a woman looks for, appearance-wise, is height. If you look like Cary Grant but are 5'4", believe me, you won't get as much as a hug. Next, women do want a guy who is basically in good shape. I will grant that you are correct that few women make having a musclebound hulk a priority, but I can promise you that nobody will look at a 400-pound lard donkey if he doesn't have a ton of money.

And yes--older women do check out younger men, all the time. Go to a hockey game sometime and see all the fifty-sixtysomething boomers ogling the players during practice. (And I doubt they are doing so because these athletes are rich.)

Finally--the importance of this is exaggerated, but there is a significant portion of women--maybe 20 or 30%--for whom size does matter. Lots of female check out crotches in the same way that men are attracted to the chest. You can't deny that many females do this. It may not be talked about as much as boobs are, but it's very real, and the notion that a particular guy might be blessed downstairs certainly does not harm his chances romantically. Surely everybody has heard of the black-men cult that exists among women because of a persistent stereotype about African-origin males.

The idea that women only want confidence and poise is a sheer stereotype. Confidence and poise will not help a 500-pound, 80-year old bald dude unless he is positively loaded. Men want confidence too, by the way. Nothing kills commitment desires in single men like a weak, spineless girl who is constantly clingy and has no self-respect.

 

I wasn't talking about extremes or abberations!

[MassuhDGoodName]

C.F,

Perhaps you know exactly what women desire so much in men, because you look at men as would a woman.

[Scriabin]

1) Don't mistake ego for Intelligence.

2) I couldn't care less about your threats, dentist.

The only ego I see right now is yours.

Where did you come from, taking sides all of a sudden?  Please, answer the question.

I know that you will NEVER meet with me in 1,000,000 years, but at least answer the question.

[Dr. Dan]

Scriabin...ego is a terrible thing...look where the former members of JTF have gone due to ego...I predict the same for you in the future unless you swallow your pride and maintain respect.

1) Don't mistake ego for Intelligence.

2) I couldn't care less about your threats, dentist.

I maintain where I stand...it's all ego and other things that i prefer not to post because it might humilate a fellow JTFer, such as yourself.

And these aren't threats..they're warnings for your sake to be a part of this movement and forum, as well as in real life; Don't want a decent person like you to be a bachelor for the rest of his life, if you get my jist.

Now if all of these posts are to mock me and for entertainment purposes, that's fine...hahah the joke is on me for taking you so seriously..April Fools in teh middle of July.

[Bruicy Kibbutz]

All i see in this thread is boobies and arguing on hezbollah week / month, baruch hashem.

[Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks]

here's the thing Scriabin, WE, men, DO think with our little tiny brains that are hanging (for some of us) in the middle of our body.  When we see a woman, most of us think in a split second about what she looks like naked, havign sex wtih her, marrying her, and divorcing her.  It's a fact.  Even the most moral of us men, we do that.  It's what drives us.  Women are a little different..what that difference is, I'm not sure..i just know they aren't like us men when it comes down to noticing the opposite sex.

On yoru second point defaming me that I'm not really a doctor and cannot prescribe medicine...I'm the type of doctor that happens to prescribe medicine on a daily basis.  I'm the kind of doctor that does surgery in the mouth with blood and stitches. So...just beware...you trying to hurt my feelings by defaming me will only go backwards in your face to anyone who comes across these posts.  Be careful of what you say and how you say things to me...you will end up the fool with his head between his legs womanless and lonely for the rest of your life bitter at the opposite sex for not loving you because you think men "should be MEN".  

So cut the ego, have an intelligent conversation with me and learn something for your own good for a change!

Dr. Dan, I am more or less in your camp in this debate, but the idea that women do not have a raging libido and do not countenance sex with attractive men that they see is completely spurious. Just like men often think with their "unit", women often think with their c******s. As disgusting and amoral as that television and movie dreck Sex in the City is, it is a pretty accurate commentary of how women think. (Note--I acknowledge that the vast majority of women are not able to put their slutastic fantasies into action the way Carrie Bradshaw is.)

If a woman does not feel any kind of sexual hots for a guy, but trusts and respects him, she will immediately make him into a brother or best-friend figure with whom she will feel comfortable sharing her true feelings in this area to him about (other) guys. It's pretty easy for men to amass quite a bit of knowledge regarding the fairer sex this way. Admittedly, I have received this treatment, at times, but I'm not ashamed of it. Hopefully it has made me more well-rounded for the dating world.

[Scriabin]

Scriabin...ego is a terrible thing...look where the former members of JTF have gone due to ego...I predict the same for you in the future unless you swallow your pride and maintain respect.

1) Don't mistake ego for Intelligence.

2) I couldn't care less about your threats, dentist.

I maintain where I stand...it's all ego and other things that i prefer not to post because it might humilate a fellow JTFer, such as yourself.

And these aren't threats..they're warnings for your sake to be a part of this movement and forum, as well as in real life; Don't want a decent person like you to be a bachelor for the rest of his life, if you get my jist.

Now if all of these posts are to mock me and for entertainment purposes, that's fine...hahah the joke is on me for taking you so seriously..April Fools in teh middle of July.

Oh.  How can you be so cruel!

I'm weeping.  Look what you've done, Doctor.  You're supposed to heal the sick, not fight people!

Shame on you!

[AsheDina]

Enzyte?

That hideous commercial is a good example of the ubiquitous portrayal of men as dumb boobs in Western media.

Showing men in a negative light is one of the favorite pastimes of the Feminist Movement.

  Bob the Builder makes men out to be IDIOTS!!!!! I HATE THE FEM MOVEMENT and ALL REAL WOMEN SHOULD RENOUNCE THIS SATANIC MOVEMENT! It is SICK. How does it feel to be a WOMAN, and KNOW that 2 female butch dykes are the REASON that this movement started?  Women were better barefoot and pregnant- NOW YOU KNOW HOW I REALLY FEEL! To hell with ALL OF IT. I am SICK of it.   DOWN with the feminist movement! <VOMIT> <PUKE> <BARFFFF> I just want to be a WOMAN. ANDDDDDDDDDD I want to PLEASE the man that I LOVE. ALSOOOOOOO: I wish they NEVER gave women a right to vote.  THAT was RIDICULOUS.

How do ya like me now.....

[Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks]

Dan did not start the flaming in this thread.

[Scriabin]

All i see in this thread is boobies and arguing on hezbollah week / month, baruch hashem.

I know that you're an Aussie.

Still, do you think that you could at least try making some sense?