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Re: Is this JTF forum a fporum for debate?
« Reply #50 on: July 29, 2008, 07:28:51 PM »
You can spot 'em right away.  As soon as someone starts babbling about why is an anti-zionist necessarily labeled an anti-semite, you right away know who you're dealing with.  Just like when somebody says "some of my best friends are Jewish".  These sickos are so transparent.

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« Reply #51 on: July 29, 2008, 07:50:38 PM »
You can spot 'em right away.  As soon as someone starts babbling about why is an anti-zionist necessarily labeled an anti-semite, you right away know who you're dealing with.  Just like when somebody says "some of my best friends are Jewish".  These sickos are so transparent.
Exactly, the Muslims are so transparent..very well put. Problem is the Muslims are so stupid they do not realize just how transparent they are and proceed with their lies and propanganda. Muslims use layers of lies to make pointless points. Is there a way to deprogram the Muslims?

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« Reply #52 on: July 29, 2008, 08:25:54 PM »
You can spot 'em right away.  As soon as someone starts babbling about why is an anti-zionist necessarily labeled an anti-semite, you right away know who you're dealing with.  Just like when somebody says "some of my best friends are Jewish".  These sickos are so transparent.
Exactly, the Muslims are so transparent..very well put. Problem is the Muslims are so stupid they do not realize just how transparent they are and proceed with their lies and propanganda. Muslims use layers of lies to make pointless points. Is there a way to deprogram the Muslims?


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« Reply #53 on: July 29, 2008, 08:47:54 PM »
You can spot 'em right away.  As soon as someone starts babbling about why is an anti-zionist necessarily labeled an anti-semite, you right away know who you're dealing with.  Just like when somebody says "some of my best friends are Jewish".  These sickos are so transparent.
Exactly, the Muslims are so transparent..very well put. Problem is the Muslims are so stupid they do not realize just how transparent they are and proceed with their lies and propanganda. Muslims use layers of lies to make pointless points. Is there a way to deprogram the Muslims?


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Re: Is this JTF forum a fporum for debate?
« Reply #54 on: July 29, 2008, 09:54:05 PM »
I'm all for arab's right of return .... Back to mecca

"white Western colonial zionist" heh , well i'm white , sure , but my ancestors never really left the "East" ,+ jews never really wanted to go away , it was the muslims and byzinte empire that forced them to relocate to other places ,and many jews tried to remain in israel , and even defeat the invading enemies . now that we return , you say we are colonialists ? about colonialism .... that is truely islam one main achievment , they colonized the entire middle east , "ethnically" cleansing anyone who is not a "beliver" , and claiming the whole place as their own ... so , read well your history ... you support the sons of the colonialists in their claim to remain in a land which they stolen in the first place from the actual people who were ancestors to most modern jews ... it was , and still , our land . and we wont give it away to no one ... We was given this land by G-d , the real g-d

i feel no sympathy for all those muslims you try to protect , they chose to be my enemy , and if they got "massacred" , its because they were too stupid to realize with who they are dealing .... My g-d invented holy war

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Re: Is this JTF forum a fporum for debate?
« Reply #55 on: July 29, 2008, 10:05:00 PM »
I'm all for arab's right of return .... Back to mecca

"white Western colonial zionist" heh , well i'm white , sure , but my ancestors never really left the "East" ,+ jews never really wanted to go away , it was the muslims and byzinte empire that forced them to relocate to other places ,and many jews tried to remain in israel , and even defeat the invading enemies . now that we return , you say we are colonialists ? about colonialism .... that is truely islam one main achievment , they colonized the entire middle east , "ethnically" cleansing anyone who is not a "beliver" , and claiming the whole place as their own ... so , read well your history ... you support the sons of the colonialists in their claim to remain in a land which they stolen in the first place from the actual people who were ancestors to most modern jews ... it was , and still , our land . and we wont give it away to no one ... We was given this land by G-d , the real g-d

i feel no sympathy for all those muslims you try to protect , they chose to be my enemy , and if they got "massacred" , its because they were too stupid to realize with who they are dealing .... My g-d invented holy war
Who is trying to protect Muslims?

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« Reply #56 on: July 29, 2008, 10:09:40 PM »
Palestinians can claim decendancy just as far back as the indigenous Jews...not those white western zio nist settelrs who ignore the teaching of the Torah to set up their own little racially oure state. kind of like the nazis.
What on earth are you speaking about Israel today is has almost 40% non Jewish residency. That don't sound that pure to me! I am sure if the tables were turned that the Arabs would not be as gracious.

And yet nobody's calling RS a Nazi Jew-hater for what he wrote here about Israel?
Several of you labeled me a Nazi for a lot less.

Very nice. >:(

  Nobody on this thread here called you ANYTHING horselady.
 

Thank you for pointing that out. I just assumed everyone knows what thread I was talking about.  :o

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« Reply #57 on: July 29, 2008, 10:11:26 PM »
Guess that big mouth is a no show..
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« Reply #58 on: July 29, 2008, 10:14:55 PM »
Guess that big mouth is a no show..

Maybe he's not a Muslim, maybe he's a liberal?  Seems that he cut and run.

Typical liberal wuss.

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« Reply #59 on: July 29, 2008, 10:20:54 PM »
Palestinians can claim decendancy just as far back as the indigenous Jews...not those white western zio nist settelrs who ignore the teaching of the Torah to set up their own little racially oure state. kind of like the nazis.
What on earth are you speaking about Israel today is has almost 40% non Jewish residency. That don't sound that pure to me! I am sure if the tables were turned that the Arabs would not be as gracious.

And yet nobody's calling RS a Nazi Jew-hater for what he wrote here about Israel?
Several of you labeled me a Nazi for a lot less.

Very nice. >:(

  Nobody on this thread here called you ANYTHING horselady.
 

Thank you for pointing that out. I just assumed everyone knows what thread I was talking about.  :o


  Horselady- I made a whole thread JUST FOR YOU. No- nobody really focus's on the negative here lol
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« Reply #60 on: July 29, 2008, 10:22:41 PM »
Palestinians can claim decendancy just as far back as the indigenous Jews...not those white western zio nist settelrs who ignore the teaching of the Torah to set up their own little racially oure state. kind of like the nazis.
What on earth are you speaking about Israel today is has almost 40% non Jewish residency. That don't sound that pure to me! I am sure if the tables were turned that the Arabs would not be as gracious.

And yet nobody's calling RS a Nazi Jew-hater for what he wrote here about Israel?
Several of you labeled me a Nazi for a lot less.

Very nice. >:(

  Nobody on this thread here called you ANYTHING horselady.
 

Thank you for pointing that out. I just assumed everyone knows what thread I was talking about.  :o


  Horselady- I made a whole thread JUST FOR YOU. No- nobody really focus's on the negative here lol

The "E-mail" thread? I saw that. How nice of you. Sorry I forgot to thank you. Where are my manners?   ;)

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Re: Is this JTF forum a fporum for debate?
« Reply #61 on: July 29, 2008, 10:27:52 PM »

Who is trying to protect Muslims?
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the guy who started this thread.

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« Reply #62 on: July 30, 2008, 12:05:00 AM »

Who is trying to protect Muslims?

the guy who started this thread.
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« Reply #63 on: July 30, 2008, 02:26:57 AM »
Palestinians can claim decendancy just as far back as the indigenous Jews...not those white western zio nist settelrs who ignore the teaching of the Torah to set up their own little racially oure state. kind of like the nazis.

Its not race based.  Any Arab can become a citizen if they convert.  Jews come from every race on earth so its not the same.

To compare Jews to Nazis...is just like a Nazi.

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« Reply #64 on: July 30, 2008, 02:31:21 AM »
'huh? Israel massacred the arabs in 1948? It seems that you forgot what really happened in 1948...a newly established Israel was being aimed at being massacred by those Arabs in 1948...and the joke was on them because they LOST!!!!!!!'

Historical FACT would disagree with you. Ben-gurion himself admitted they were stealing land. The vast majority of massacres in 1948 were carried out by the israelis against the indigenous population.

'...from wence they came from originally.'

It is the white western colonial zionist who should go back to where they came from.

You continue to propagate lies, lies which has shown to be laughably inaacurate.

Any person ethnically cleansed has a right of return, the fact the colonist zionists won't allow them  reflects the inherent bigotry and racism of these white western settlers. Disgusting, no wonder the majority of sane people support the cause of the indigenous people, on whose land the artifical 'Israel' now sits.


Aww the "white Western colonial zionist"..so sweet...

So let me guess you are a negro i mean schvartza i mean black no...AFRICAN AMERICAN Muslim coming to join us at JTF...

Sorry, you should go back to Africa from wence you came and live amongst all of your "brothas" who get murdered each day by your other fellow "brothas"

Get lost!

I'm pretty sure this guy is some Marxist IRA freak.

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« Reply #65 on: July 30, 2008, 03:57:27 AM »
Palestinians can claim decendancy just as far back as the indigenous Jews...not those white western zio nist settelrs who ignore the teaching of the Torah to set up their own little racially oure state. kind of like the nazis.
What on earth are you speaking about Israel today is has almost 40% non Jewish residency. That don't sound that pure to me! I am sure if the tables were turned that the Arabs would not be as gracious.

And yet nobody's calling RS a Nazi Jew-hater for what he wrote here about Israel?
Several of you labeled me a Nazi for a lot less.

Very nice. >:(

  Nobody on this thread here called you ANYTHING horselady.
 

Thank you for pointing that out. I just assumed everyone knows what thread I was talking about.  :o


  Horselady- I made a whole thread JUST FOR YOU. No- nobody really focus's on the negative here lol

The "E-mail" thread? I saw that. How nice of you. Sorry I forgot to thank you. Where are my manners?   ;)

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« Reply #66 on: July 30, 2008, 10:48:10 AM »


  Horselady- I made a whole thread JUST FOR YOU. No- nobody really focus's on the negative here lol

The "E-mail" thread? I saw that. How nice of you. Sorry I forgot to thank you. Where are my manners?   ;)

  NO- I worked with a friend and found what you needed re: US Military, I made ir JUST for YOU, to TRY to be a better person.

Yet I saw nothing that disputed the figures I posted in the thread. Maybe I missed it, would you please post the link
where you found a source that proved them wrong?

I'll post them again, so you won't have to search the thread.

% of population = 2%
% of military  =     0.21%

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« Reply #67 on: July 30, 2008, 11:51:44 AM »


  Horselady- I made a whole thread JUST FOR YOU. No- nobody really focus's on the negative here lol

The "E-mail" thread? I saw that. How nice of you. Sorry I forgot to thank you. Where are my manners?   ;)

  NO- I worked with a friend and found what you needed re: US Military, I made ir JUST for YOU, to TRY to be a better person.

Yet I saw nothing that disputed the figures I posted in the thread. Maybe I missed it, would you please post the link
where you found a source that proved them wrong?

I'll post them again, so you won't have to search the thread.

% of population = 2%
% of military  =     0.21%




  Yep- just SH*T all over them. THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT YOU ARE DOING.  With an attitude like YOURS, is it ANY WONDER perhaps WHY they DONT want to SERVE
 OH- EXCEPT THE BATTLE COMMANDERS.
 SELL CRAZY SOMEWHERE ELSE HORSE. I SEE YOU.
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Re: Is this JTF forum a fporum for debate?
« Reply #68 on: July 30, 2008, 11:54:36 AM »
"Palestinians can claim decendancy just as far back as the indigenous Jews...not those white western zio nist settelrs who ignore the teaching of the Torah to set up their own little racially oure state. kind of like the nazis."

This is simply not true, and is the propaganda of ignorant fools and Jew haters. You keep repeating it, so one must wonder which category you fall into.

The people you refer to as Palestinians are actually Arabs. Use of the term Palestinian in reference to Arabs is a very recent development. In fact, I doubt you can find evidence of Arabs being called Palestinians before 1964. The historical record shows that when the term Palestinian was used in 1948, it referred to the Jews.

So the real question becomes which people, the Jews or the Arabs, can show proof of the earliest nation/state and ownership of the land.

There was never a nation called Palestine. The region that became known as Palestine was certainly never a nation/state. That's why it's impossible for anyone to name a single Palestinian king or president, what type of government Palestine had, where it had embassies, what it's currency was, etc.

On the other hand, we know with absolute certainty that the Jewish nation of Judea existed. We know with absolute certainty that the region that became known as Palestine only came into existence after the Romans conquered the nation of Judea.

Therefore, it is clear that the Jews can easily claim earlier descendancy and entitlement to the land than the so called Arab Palestinians.

So when you say "It is the white western colonial zionist who should go back to where they came from", that's exactly what the Jews are doing when they reclaim the Land of Israel.

Those are the facts. You're entitled not to like them, but they're undeniable.

You now know the truth. So if we continue to see you making absurdly ignorant statements about Palestinian descendancy matching that of the Jews, we'll know you're just a Jew hater.

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« Reply #69 on: July 30, 2008, 12:08:20 PM »
"Palestinians can claim decendancy just as far back as the indigenous Jews...not those white western zio nist settelrs who ignore the teaching of the Torah to set up their own little racially oure state. kind of like the nazis."

This is simply not true, and is the propaganda of ignorant fools and Jew haters. You keep repeating it, so one must wonder which category you fall into.

The people you refer to as Palestinians are actually Arabs. Use of the term Palestinian in reference to Arabs is a very recent development. In fact, I doubt you can find evidence of Arabs being called Palestinians before 1964. The historical record shows that when the term Palestinian was used in 1948, it referred to the Jews.

So the real question becomes which people, the Jews or the Arabs, can show proof of the earliest nation/state and ownership of the land.

There was never a nation called Palestine. The region that became known as Palestine was certainly never a nation/state. That's why it's impossible for anyone to name a single Palestinian king or president, what type of government Palestine had, where it had embassies, what it's currency was, etc.

On the other hand, we know with absolute certainty that the Jewish nation of Judea existed. We know with absolute certainty that the region that became known as Palestine only came into existence after the Romans conquered the nation of Judea.

Therefore, it is clear that the Jews can easily claim earlier descendancy and entitlement to the land than the so called Arab Palestinians.

So when you say "It is the white western colonial zionist who should go back to where they came from", that's exactly what the Jews are doing when they reclaim the Land of Israel.

Those are the facts. You're entitled not to like them, but they're undeniable.

You now know the truth. So if we continue to see you making absurdly ignorant statements about Palestinian descendancy matching that of the Jews, we'll know you're just a Jew hater.



  Yes, and truth. And it was suggested that I, on another forum am a 'moron'. I would suggest that the MORON is right HERE.
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Re: Is this JTF forum a fporum for debate?
« Reply #70 on: July 30, 2008, 12:19:59 PM »
Calm down, Paulette.

The quote at the top of my post was from RepublicanStones, NOT horselady.

You're getting excited and ripping into horselady for a debate she's not even involved in.

I know you don't believe this, but you and horselady are on the same side.

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« Reply #71 on: July 30, 2008, 12:34:02 PM »
Calm down, Paulette.

The quote at the top of my post was from RepublicanStones, NOT horselady.

You're getting excited and ripping into horselady for a debate she's not even involved in.

I know you don't believe this, but you and horselady are on the same side.


 NO. I am a "Moron" and NO, she is NOT on our side, you are mistaken.

 Oh- I was not commenting on YOU Muck, but I am a "MORON" and have not the foggiest idea on how to post. Please refer to calling me MORON from now on. TY.
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« Reply #72 on: July 30, 2008, 12:34:52 PM »
Calm down, Paulette.

The quote at the top of my post was from RepublicanStones, NOT horselady.

You're getting excited and ripping into horselady for a debate she's not even involved in.

I know you don't believe this, but you and horselady are on the same side.


 NO. I am a "Moron" and NO, she is NOT on our side, you are mistaken.


Who called you a moron?

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« Reply #73 on: July 30, 2008, 12:39:04 PM »
Calm down, Paulette.

The quote at the top of my post was from RepublicanStones, NOT horselady.

You're getting excited and ripping into horselady for a debate she's not even involved in.

I know you don't believe this, but you and horselady are on the same side.


 NO. I am a "Moron" and NO, she is NOT on our side, you are mistaken.


Who called you a moron?

  Hero- an ACTIVE MEMBER on the JTF called me a MORON on another forum called the "JBs" I have MORE THAN A FEW that posted that in my inbox here, I dont mind people calling me what they see me as- BUT, do it to my FACE. I deplore COWARDS, Us MORONS are like that.

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« Reply #74 on: July 30, 2008, 12:42:02 PM »
Calm down, Paulette.

The quote at the top of my post was from RepublicanStones, NOT horselady.

You're getting excited and ripping into horselady for a debate she's not even involved in.

I know you don't believe this, but you and horselady are on the same side.


 NO. I am a "Moron" and NO, she is NOT on our side, you are mistaken.


Who called you a moron?

  Hero- an ACTIVE MEMBER on the JTF called me a MORON on another forum called the "JBs" I have MORE THAN A FEW that posted that in my inbox here, I dont mind people calling me what they see me as- BUT, do it to my FACE. I deplore COWARDS, Us MORONS are like that.

 Hero- BTW.. You know I love YOU.






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