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Was Stalin Georgian ?
t_h_j:
--- Quote from: Manch on August 11, 2008, 04:47:49 AM ---I take an exception to Chaim's stateme on “Ask JTF” about Georgia, blaming Georgia for Stalin. Stalin was as much Georgian as Trotskyi was Jewish. Stalin, among other atrocities, in 1920s, murdered almost all of Georgian nobility and intelligentsia.
I personally knew quite a few Georgians - they are the best of friends one can hope for. Georgians are very nice, noble and hospitable people. Jews never were persecuted by Georgians, were able to preserve our Jewish identity (one of the rarest examples in USSR), and those living in Israel still have very strong ties to Georgia. In fact, one of the rarest places where Jews really did not feel anti-Semitism in the Russian imperia and then Soviet Union was Georgia.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georgian_Jews
I think president Saakashvili is 100% correct in his orientation on the West and is completely in his mandate in preserving territorial integrity of his beautiful country. I think that JTF should make a strong indication of support for Georgia and condemn Russian imperialism.
Long live Georgia! O0
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Trotsky was jewish. His real name was "Lev Davidovich Bronstein" Stalin's real name was Iosef Vissarionovich Dzhugashvili, which is a very Georgian name.
Manch:
--- Quote from: t_h_j on August 11, 2008, 11:40:41 PM ---
Trotsky was jewish. His real name was "Lev Davidovich Bronstein" Stalin's real name was Iosef Vissarionovich Dzhugashvili, which is a very Georgian name.
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You missed my point
Ultra Requete:
I realy hate Moscowy imperialism and their soviet style brutish policy against her unfortunate neighbours and feel sorry for Georgian nation as for Osetians but they're all pawns in strugle beetwen Russian And American oil tycoons:
--- Quote ---Is it about separatism? Protecting Russian passport holders? A brute expression of power? No, Russia's invasion of Georgia is mostly about seizing control of the only energy conduit threatening their monopoly of supply from Central Asia to Europe - according to this piece from the Globe and Mail, which concludes that "rewarding its transgression by acceding to the Kremlin's plans for an energy monopoly in Europe would encourage even worse behaviour in the future."
To what extent is this terrible war one of private economic gain for the gazoviki?
Georgia is a crucial transit point for oil and gas. Three major pipelines connecting energy sources in the Caucasus and Central Asia to European markets pass through its territory. One of these, the South Caucasus pipeline, is an important part of the plan for the Nabucco pipeline to Austria, which would deliver natural gas directly to the European Union, bypassing Russia entirely, if built.
The Russian government, which controls Gazprom, the world's largest gas company, has tried frantically to cajole its European customers into ignoring Nabucco and investing instead in its own new pipelines.
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Continue reading "The Pipeline War" »
http://www.robertamsterdam.com/2008/08/the_pipeline_war.htm
Sakashwili is idiot indeed the west as history showed is not reliable ally, EU is good at talking as always and Americans are maybe wiling to die for oil fields but not for oil lines. ::)
IslamIsCancer:
Yes, and Saakashvili is Stalin junior, may he die.
Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks:
--- Quote from: IslamIsCancer on August 12, 2008, 06:12:44 PM ---Yes, and Saakashvili is Stalin junior, may he die.
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You are positively insane.
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