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Michael Savage WAS right about Russian-Georgian conflict!
SerbChicago:
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--- Quote from: C.F. on August 14, 2008, 06:35:40 PM ---
--- Quote from: SerbChicago on August 14, 2008, 06:00:58 PM ---No!But they should be little bit more respectful to Russians if they wont them to stop investing in Iran.Israel have made statement for Georgians:"We gave them a knife now it's up to them to use it".Now with that kind of statement what would Russians think?'Enemy of my enemy is my friend'.If they really want Russians to stop arming Iran and Syria why would they send weapons to Georgia,support Ukraine in NATO and others ex-Soviet countries?For they own survival they should get of Russians back and not support US in everything they do.They should compromise with Russians.Isn't this rational thing to do for them?
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Israel has nothing to prove to Russia and is not obligated to it in any way. This notion that Israel must completely be Russia's slave and do whatever it wants in order to avoid facing a Russian-engineered Islamic holocaust is a nonstarter. How about Russia stopping pursuing total regional hegemony and world domination, for a change?
How many years has Israel been aligned with Georgia? Two? How many years has Russia been aiding Syria and Iran? Fifty? Are you telling me that Russia is a belligerent nation only because Israel supports Georgia? Is any support for Georgia and opposition to Russia the same as attacking Serbia in your eyes? Come on; this is absurd.
I can't believe you are saying these things. We JTFers in America support the noble Serb people no matter what. Do you feel the same for Israel, right now?
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C.F. YES I DO!Don't get me wrong but i think Israel should back of some issues that doesn't concern them.Don't think if we disagree that i don't support Israel!But i think they are too close to Russia and it's gonna back fire to anyone that try to do the same thing,remember Napoleon,Austro-Hungeria,Germans they all try the same think and look what happend to them when they got close to Russia.
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Russia needs to stop throwing their weight around period. I think that Russia would continue to fund nazi terrorist programs, even if Israel did not aid Georgia. Russia should not even be in Georgia in the first place. There intentions are to take back all of the Soviet Republics and reunite the USSR. Like I always say about Russia, They are not in Georgia for retribution, they are there for CONQUEST, and that the bottom line!!
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Sorry but US is for CONQUEST,Russians are for revenge and respect.
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Oh really? your saying that the United States is for Conquest? I have never heard a dumber statement in my entire life! I am truly baffled by your statement. Russia is in south Ossetia to Conquer. I don't see the United States invading Mexico and complaining that there are too many Americans there. That statement is totally false, and it is absolutely doltish.
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Yes.Just look Vietnam,Somalia,Germany,Croatia,Bosnia,Kosovo,Afghanistan and Iran.Maybe i have miss some.Everywhere you look they have "military bases".Isn't this conquering?Putting missiles at Poland?!It is not doltish it's truth!All do i support them in Afghanistan and Iraq but it is world wide dominance!Isn't it?Or you thinking that they are spreading "democracy".
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Spreading Democracy is exactly what they are doing. Russia is spreading Communism, and they are commiting crimes against democracy. That, my friend is conquest.
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Yeah,yeah i see there is no point having conversation with you.
P J C:
--- Quote from: SerbChicago on August 15, 2008, 10:24:21 AM ---
--- Quote from: ProJewChristian on August 15, 2008, 10:05:54 AM ---
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--- Quote from: C.F. on August 14, 2008, 06:35:40 PM ---
--- Quote from: SerbChicago on August 14, 2008, 06:00:58 PM ---No!But they should be little bit more respectful to Russians if they wont them to stop investing in Iran.Israel have made statement for Georgians:"We gave them a knife now it's up to them to use it".Now with that kind of statement what would Russians think?'Enemy of my enemy is my friend'.If they really want Russians to stop arming Iran and Syria why would they send weapons to Georgia,support Ukraine in NATO and others ex-Soviet countries?For they own survival they should get of Russians back and not support US in everything they do.They should compromise with Russians.Isn't this rational thing to do for them?
--- End quote ---
Israel has nothing to prove to Russia and is not obligated to it in any way. This notion that Israel must completely be Russia's slave and do whatever it wants in order to avoid facing a Russian-engineered Islamic holocaust is a nonstarter. How about Russia stopping pursuing total regional hegemony and world domination, for a change?
How many years has Israel been aligned with Georgia? Two? How many years has Russia been aiding Syria and Iran? Fifty? Are you telling me that Russia is a belligerent nation only because Israel supports Georgia? Is any support for Georgia and opposition to Russia the same as attacking Serbia in your eyes? Come on; this is absurd.
I can't believe you are saying these things. We JTFers in America support the noble Serb people no matter what. Do you feel the same for Israel, right now?
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C.F. YES I DO!Don't get me wrong but i think Israel should back of some issues that doesn't concern them.Don't think if we disagree that i don't support Israel!But i think they are too close to Russia and it's gonna back fire to anyone that try to do the same thing,remember Napoleon,Austro-Hungeria,Germans they all try the same think and look what happend to them when they got close to Russia.
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Russia needs to stop throwing their weight around period. I think that Russia would continue to fund nazi terrorist programs, even if Israel did not aid Georgia. Russia should not even be in Georgia in the first place. There intentions are to take back all of the Soviet Republics and reunite the USSR. Like I always say about Russia, They are not in Georgia for retribution, they are there for CONQUEST, and that the bottom line!!
--- End quote ---
Sorry but US is for CONQUEST,Russians are for revenge and respect.
--- End quote ---
Oh really? your saying that the United States is for Conquest? I have never heard a dumber statement in my entire life! I am truly baffled by your statement. Russia is in south Ossetia to Conquer. I don't see the United States invading Mexico and complaining that there are too many Americans there. That statement is totally false, and it is absolutely doltish.
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If Russia want's to be respected maybe they should stop invading tiny countries like Georgia with no military to really speak of. Instead they feel threatened by Ukraine. Russia is afraid to have a real fight on their hands. Russia and Russians send military equipment to Iran and fund their terrorist nazi nuclear program. Iran is the same place that vowed to wipe the United States and Israel off the map, and you are sticking up for Russia? How moronic can a person be? RUSSIA IS A COUNTRY OF COWARDS AND ALWAYS WILL BE!!!!
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First don't apply that moronic statement!I never try to insult anyone that is disagreeing with me.I try to have discussion over here not fight or to shove off someone.So can you stop with "moronic person",just try to have statement and discussion.Second do you know why they feel "threatened" by Ukraine?How would you feel is Russia sad that they are sending military weapons to Mexico and they troops on the border of Mexico?That is reason why they don't want NATO in Ukraine.Russia is not afraid of fight!Remember Napoleon,Austo-Hungaria and Germany in WW1,Germany in WW2?What happened to them?Remember battle of Stalingrad?(movie 'enemy at the gate')Russians are not afraid to die for Russia.You have to put your self in Russia prospective!And then you will understand.
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I was not calling YOU moronic, I was calling your statement moronic, because that is what it is! And secondly, We are not invading Mexico and trying to over throw their govt, like what Russia is doing to Georgia, there are no bones about it. Obviously, you are not moronic, because you are a JTFer, and I apologize if you took what I said the wrong way, I am in disbelief that you say the US is for conquest. If anyone is commiting conquest that is the Russians.
SerbChicago:
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--- Quote from: SerbChicago on August 14, 2008, 06:58:31 PM ---
--- Quote from: C.F. on August 14, 2008, 06:35:40 PM ---
--- Quote from: SerbChicago on August 14, 2008, 06:00:58 PM ---No!But they should be little bit more respectful to Russians if they wont them to stop investing in Iran.Israel have made statement for Georgians:"We gave them a knife now it's up to them to use it".Now with that kind of statement what would Russians think?'Enemy of my enemy is my friend'.If they really want Russians to stop arming Iran and Syria why would they send weapons to Georgia,support Ukraine in NATO and others ex-Soviet countries?For they own survival they should get of Russians back and not support US in everything they do.They should compromise with Russians.Isn't this rational thing to do for them?
--- End quote ---
Israel has nothing to prove to Russia and is not obligated to it in any way. This notion that Israel must completely be Russia's slave and do whatever it wants in order to avoid facing a Russian-engineered Islamic holocaust is a nonstarter. How about Russia stopping pursuing total regional hegemony and world domination, for a change?
How many years has Israel been aligned with Georgia? Two? How many years has Russia been aiding Syria and Iran? Fifty? Are you telling me that Russia is a belligerent nation only because Israel supports Georgia? Is any support for Georgia and opposition to Russia the same as attacking Serbia in your eyes? Come on; this is absurd.
I can't believe you are saying these things. We JTFers in America support the noble Serb people no matter what. Do you feel the same for Israel, right now?
--- End quote ---
C.F. YES I DO!Don't get me wrong but i think Israel should back of some issues that doesn't concern them.Don't think if we disagree that i don't support Israel!But i think they are too close to Russia and it's gonna back fire to anyone that try to do the same thing,remember Napoleon,Austro-Hungeria,Germans they all try the same think and look what happend to them when they got close to Russia.
--- End quote ---
Russia needs to stop throwing their weight around period. I think that Russia would continue to fund nazi terrorist programs, even if Israel did not aid Georgia. Russia should not even be in Georgia in the first place. There intentions are to take back all of the Soviet Republics and reunite the USSR. Like I always say about Russia, They are not in Georgia for retribution, they are there for CONQUEST, and that the bottom line!!
--- End quote ---
Sorry but US is for CONQUEST,Russians are for revenge and respect.
--- End quote ---
Oh really? your saying that the United States is for Conquest? I have never heard a dumber statement in my entire life! I am truly baffled by your statement. Russia is in south Ossetia to Conquer. I don't see the United States invading Mexico and complaining that there are too many Americans there. That statement is totally false, and it is absolutely doltish.
--- End quote ---
If Russia want's to be respected maybe they should stop invading tiny countries like Georgia with no military to really speak of. Instead they feel threatened by Ukraine. Russia is afraid to have a real fight on their hands. Russia and Russians send military equipment to Iran and fund their terrorist nazi nuclear program. Iran is the same place that vowed to wipe the United States and Israel off the map, and you are sticking up for Russia? How moronic can a person be? RUSSIA IS A COUNTRY OF COWARDS AND ALWAYS WILL BE!!!!
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First don't apply that moronic statement!I never try to insult anyone that is disagreeing with me.I try to have discussion over here not fight or to shove off someone.So can you stop with "moronic person",just try to have statement and discussion.Second do you know why they feel "threatened" by Ukraine?How would you feel is Russia sad that they are sending military weapons to Mexico and they troops on the border of Mexico?That is reason why they don't want NATO in Ukraine.Russia is not afraid of fight!Remember Napoleon,Austo-Hungaria and Germany in WW1,Germany in WW2?What happened to them?Remember battle of Stalingrad?(movie 'enemy at the gate')Russians are not afraid to die for Russia.You have to put your self in Russia prospective!And then you will understand.
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I was not calling YOU moronic, I was calling your statement moronic, because that is what it is! And secondly, We are not invading Mexico and trying to over throw their govt, like what Russia is doing to Georgia, there are no bones about it. Obviously, you are not moronic, because you are a JTFer, and I apologize if you took what I said the wrong way, I am in disbelief that you say the US is for conquest. If anyone is commiting conquest that is the Russians.
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Apologize accepted.We are disagreeing in this issues with all respect to you.We can disagree can we?!
P J C:
--- Quote from: SerbChicago on August 15, 2008, 10:40:22 AM ---
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--- Quote from: SerbChicago on August 14, 2008, 06:58:31 PM ---
--- Quote from: C.F. on August 14, 2008, 06:35:40 PM ---
--- Quote from: SerbChicago on August 14, 2008, 06:00:58 PM ---No!But they should be little bit more respectful to Russians if they wont them to stop investing in Iran.Israel have made statement for Georgians:"We gave them a knife now it's up to them to use it".Now with that kind of statement what would Russians think?'Enemy of my enemy is my friend'.If they really want Russians to stop arming Iran and Syria why would they send weapons to Georgia,support Ukraine in NATO and others ex-Soviet countries?For they own survival they should get of Russians back and not support US in everything they do.They should compromise with Russians.Isn't this rational thing to do for them?
--- End quote ---
Israel has nothing to prove to Russia and is not obligated to it in any way. This notion that Israel must completely be Russia's slave and do whatever it wants in order to avoid facing a Russian-engineered Islamic holocaust is a nonstarter. How about Russia stopping pursuing total regional hegemony and world domination, for a change?
How many years has Israel been aligned with Georgia? Two? How many years has Russia been aiding Syria and Iran? Fifty? Are you telling me that Russia is a belligerent nation only because Israel supports Georgia? Is any support for Georgia and opposition to Russia the same as attacking Serbia in your eyes? Come on; this is absurd.
I can't believe you are saying these things. We JTFers in America support the noble Serb people no matter what. Do you feel the same for Israel, right now?
--- End quote ---
C.F. YES I DO!Don't get me wrong but i think Israel should back of some issues that doesn't concern them.Don't think if we disagree that i don't support Israel!But i think they are too close to Russia and it's gonna back fire to anyone that try to do the same thing,remember Napoleon,Austro-Hungeria,Germans they all try the same think and look what happend to them when they got close to Russia.
--- End quote ---
Russia needs to stop throwing their weight around period. I think that Russia would continue to fund nazi terrorist programs, even if Israel did not aid Georgia. Russia should not even be in Georgia in the first place. There intentions are to take back all of the Soviet Republics and reunite the USSR. Like I always say about Russia, They are not in Georgia for retribution, they are there for CONQUEST, and that the bottom line!!
--- End quote ---
Sorry but US is for CONQUEST,Russians are for revenge and respect.
--- End quote ---
Oh really? your saying that the United States is for Conquest? I have never heard a dumber statement in my entire life! I am truly baffled by your statement. Russia is in south Ossetia to Conquer. I don't see the United States invading Mexico and complaining that there are too many Americans there. That statement is totally false, and it is absolutely doltish.
--- End quote ---
If Russia want's to be respected maybe they should stop invading tiny countries like Georgia with no military to really speak of. Instead they feel threatened by Ukraine. Russia is afraid to have a real fight on their hands. Russia and Russians send military equipment to Iran and fund their terrorist nazi nuclear program. Iran is the same place that vowed to wipe the United States and Israel off the map, and you are sticking up for Russia? How moronic can a person be? RUSSIA IS A COUNTRY OF COWARDS AND ALWAYS WILL BE!!!!
--- End quote ---
First don't apply that moronic statement!I never try to insult anyone that is disagreeing with me.I try to have discussion over here not fight or to shove off someone.So can you stop with "moronic person",just try to have statement and discussion.Second do you know why they feel "threatened" by Ukraine?How would you feel is Russia sad that they are sending military weapons to Mexico and they troops on the border of Mexico?That is reason why they don't want NATO in Ukraine.Russia is not afraid of fight!Remember Napoleon,Austo-Hungaria and Germany in WW1,Germany in WW2?What happened to them?Remember battle of Stalingrad?(movie 'enemy at the gate')Russians are not afraid to die for Russia.You have to put your self in Russia prospective!And then you will understand.
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I was not calling YOU moronic, I was calling your statement moronic, because that is what it is! And secondly, We are not invading Mexico and trying to over throw their govt, like what Russia is doing to Georgia, there are no bones about it. Obviously, you are not moronic, because you are a JTFer, and I apologize if you took what I said the wrong way, I am in disbelief that you say the US is for conquest. If anyone is commiting conquest that is the Russians.
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Apologize accepted.We are disagreeing in this issues with all respect to you.We can disagree can we?!
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I agree to disagree
Manch:
--- Quote from: SerbChicago on August 15, 2008, 10:40:22 AM ---I was not calling YOU moronic, I was calling your statement moronic, because that is what it is! And secondly, We are not invading Mexico and trying to over throw their govt, like what Russia is doing to Georgia, there are no bones about it. Obviously, you are not moronic, because you are a JTFer, and I apologize if you took what I said the wrong way, I am in disbelief that you say the US is for conquest. If anyone is commiting conquest that is the Russians.
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As much as I disagree with SerbChicago on the issue of Georgia, as much as I am disappointed with him for not seeing the parallels between Georgia and Serbia, one thing needs to be put into perspective. USA would invade or interfere in Mexican affairs if there was an anti-US regime there openly supported by Russia.
But, US dominance of the world is benevolent - the countries that US dominates benefit greatly from US protectorate. Even Serbian regime realizes that and that is why they are on their knees. Russians, on the other hand, are probably the most xenophobic people in the world today - they dominate as a "big brother" to spread corruption, anti-US sentiments and total control over their subordinates. You can see Russian bloggers and youtubers commentaries - they are filled with chauvinism, racism and anti-Semitism.
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