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How important is going to Temple to you?
decimos:
So its clear,there will be no churches when the 3rd temple is built,for as it is written ""I will make the people pure of speech that they all call upon the name of G-d and serve Him with one purpose." (Zephaniah 3:9).And "Fear ye not, neither be afraid; have I not announced unto thee of old, and declared it? And ye are My witnesses. Is there a G-d beside Me? Yea, there is no Rock; I know not any.{Isa 44.8}also see {Isa 45,20} Assemble yourselves and come, draw near together, ye that are escaped of the nations; they have no knowledge that carry the wood of their graven image, and pray unto a g-d that cannot save. {I find this verse fantastic}
In conclusion not with standing the messianic prophecy YET to be fulfilled,we see that there is no other co-eternal creator with Hashem,his is one and alone,we also find that images such as goats, calves, crosses and images of men in stone or wood will no longer be sought after as g-ds,but more importantly the prophets speak of the recommencing of temple sacrifice,which of coarse does fit with a specific "western religion"
muman613:
Going to THE TEMPLE, or to Shul?
If we had the Holy Temple I would be there and I would be there with gusto. I love Hashem and would love to be in his presence and be able to sacrifice what I have to his cause. We dont have the Temple today and we can only dream and do mitzvahs in the hope that we merit seeing the rebuilding of the Holy Temple.
I go to shul when I can. I work very hard and cant be there in time for the morning minyan. I often go to the Shabbatons my Orthodox Rabbi has at the local University. It is very nice and we are going to the first one of the new school Rabbi who is a Chabad rabbi. I also go to another Chabad rabbi in the area and will probably be doing Yom Kippur this year with that Chabad minyan. Shabbat sometimes I do at home because I dont drive on Shabbat except in emergencies. I have recently been davening the morning Shachris service at home.
muman613
Harzel:
I find public prayers incredibly boring and I never go to the synagogue.
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--- Quote from: Zelhar on September 05, 2008, 09:41:23 AM ---I find public prayers incredibly boring and I never go to the synagogue.
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maybe what you experienced is like in britain, we have large shuls with a slow service.
find a younger congregation, like people < 40 or < 30. The number of people is smaller, and the davening is more energised.
their entire philosophy is different.
Large shuls, are often old, and from an older generation, the davening is often s-l-o-w, all drawn out, and you either have a proper chazzan, or somebody that thinks he is a proper chazzan, and a congregation that wants a proper chazzan and may be nostalgic for one. Lots of chazzanut. Not much participation from conregants. Lots of them sitting around listening to the chazzan's voice. The style is going out of vogue. The generations now are more religious thanks to jewish outreach organisations, and they are more interested in focussed davening than the chazzanut.
A rabbi once made the observation, he referenced the beginning of the amida (elokainu velokai avotainu..), and said that there are 2 ways to follow G-d.
following the g-d of our fathers, and following your G-d.
the 50+ generation were following the G-d of their fathers, just wanting to be traditional.. (I think he was being polite, he didn't want to offend the people of 50+ that he was speaking to).
The <40 generation(s) are following Their G-d. they have personalised judaism to suit themselves (within the boundaries of orthodoxy).. they have made it their own. (it seems to me that the slow drawn out service is more of a "i'm doing this bit of suffering each week , paying the price, that's my bit, so i'm staying within the fold, so my father won't turn in his grave". It's not much of a religious experience).
There are some religious people in big shuls, that pray every day but still they don't mind a sing song if it's only once a week.
How people pray on a regular morning in shul is completely different, much faster because they want to be ready for work. So even a big shul will get it over and done with.
Tzvi Ben Roshel1:
--- Quote from: Zelhar on September 05, 2008, 09:41:23 AM ---I find public prayers incredibly boring and I never go to the synagogue.
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You should go to a Sefardi shul. Very livly. Go to the Selihot prayers this month, also even the regular prayers- its uplifting.
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