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Interview with Richard Armitage Russia-Georgia conflict
syyuge:
--- Quote from: RationalThought110 on August 24, 2008, 04:34:33 AM ---
--- Quote from: DALMACIJA on August 24, 2008, 03:12:55 AM ---
You are completly ignoring my, aove mentioned, arguments why the Serbs support Russia.
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"If Kosovo Albanias have the right for their own sovereinty, why can not Russians in Ossetia have their own?"
So if you're against Kosova independence, shouldn't you also be against Ossetia independence?
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So if Kosovo's so-called independence is abolished, then the Ossetia's so-called independence shall also be abolished.
Initiation of circular acts may lead to circular logic's. :)
spiritus_persona:
Russia is only interested in power, wealth, and land. Russia doesn't care about the Serbs or South Ossetia or anything else unless it benefits from it. You can't trust the Russian bear, because they have an ulterior motive for everything.
t_h_j:
--- Quote from: spiritus_persona on August 24, 2008, 11:50:22 PM ---Russia is only interested in power, wealth, and land. Russia doesn't care about the Serbs or South Ossetia or anything else unless it benefits from it. You can't trust the Russian bear, because they have an ulterior motive for everything.
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if thats the case, then why didn't they march on tblisi a week ago?
syyuge:
--- Quote from: t_h_j on August 25, 2008, 12:00:25 AM ---
--- Quote from: spiritus_persona on August 24, 2008, 11:50:22 PM ---Russia is only interested in power, wealth, and land. Russia doesn't care about the Serbs or South Ossetia or anything else unless it benefits from it. You can't trust the Russian bear, because they have an ulterior motive for everything.
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if thats the case, then why didn't they march on tblisi a week ago?
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Problem is that if Russia does not marches on Tbilisi, some body else will.
The relations between Georgia and Russia have deteriorated to such an extreme extent that @ when in the end Russia joins together with battered Nato & USA, then Georgia may be leaving Nato to join the advancing evil combination of Red Dragon, False Prophet & pak666.
judeanoncapta:
--- Quote from: DALMACIJA on August 22, 2008, 03:31:38 PM ---
--- Quote from: C.F. on August 22, 2008, 02:50:27 PM ---Better than a Fag Buchanus article, but still the same Russian propaganda. The West and Russia will never have a good relationship, no matter what. Democrats (meaning people who believe in democracy, not members of the party) and tyrants will never be able to live side by side any more than Muslims and infidels will.
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Look we understand that you, who live in America, are surrounded with American propaganda. I also understand why you are anti-Russian. That's logic since you support the US and the interests of the US above Russia's, that's logic.
I can not expect from you, who live in America, to be pro Russian and anti-American.
But you must also understand what Russia is doing in Georgia.
Nobody has the right to attack the Russians of Georgia. Russia will do everything to save it's people out side the Russian federation.
The US is provoking Russia by
- Supporting criminal and anti-Russian movements in Orthodox countries like Serbia, Ukraine and Georgia.
- Trying to convince Russia's neighboring nations to join the NATO
- Applying for the establishment of the rocket missile system 200 km near Russia's borders. We must not forgot that America has illegally established military bases in Kosovo - Serbia. They destroyed Yugoslavia by supporting the separatists and attacking the Serbs. After that was succeeded the US is trying to conduct the same process of collapsing in the Republic of Serbia.
And now they want to continue to expand their influence towards the East?
Why so much attack against Orthodox nations?
Are we dealing with some kind of anti-Orthodox plan?
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I think one of the main problems facing the former Soviet republics is that the borderlines are so arbitrary and are not divided on racial or ethnic lines.
There might be a new fight between Russia and the Ukraine over the Crimea.
The Crimea is russian. The only reason it is part of the Ukraine is because Kruschev wanted to give a bone to his home province.
There may be nuclear war over an area that never should have been part of Ukraine.
I don't like Russia and I think they are evil for arming the Muslims. But I couldn't care less if they take over the Crimea or other parts of the surrounding republics with Russian majorities.
It may be illegal according to international law. But it is not worth going to nuclear war over.
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