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Would you ever eat Kosher Mcdonalds if there was one in NYC

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Re: Would you eat Kosher...
« Reply #25 on: September 01, 2008, 07:32:06 PM »
I have only tried one type of food that is Kosher it is hotdogs that is it

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« Reply #26 on: September 01, 2008, 08:00:44 PM »
I have only tried one type of food that is Kosher it is hotdogs that is it
You must have eaten many other things that were as Kosher as the hotdogs. If you look at the packaging on many foods you will see its marked Kosher. The preparation of  food has a great deal to do with it also.
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Re: Would you eat Kosher...
« Reply #27 on: September 01, 2008, 08:01:50 PM »
I have only tried one type of food that is Kosher it is hotdogs that is it
You must have eaten many other things that were as Kosher as the hotdogs. If you look at the packaging on many foods you will see its marked Kosher. The preparation of  food has a great deal to do with it also.

I always laugh when I see anti-Semites saying kosher food is disgusting because they probably ate a tuna fish sandwich for lunch.

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« Reply #28 on: September 01, 2008, 08:03:33 PM »
I have only tried one type of food that is Kosher it is hotdogs that is it
You must have eaten many other things that were as Kosher as the hotdogs. If you look at the packaging on many foods you will see its marked Kosher. The preparation of  food has a great deal to do with it also.

I always laugh when I see anti-Semites saying kosher food is disgusting because they probably ate a tuna fish sandwich for lunch. lol

I might have eaten a lot more food that had the kosher stamp on it

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Re: Would you eat Kosher...
« Reply #29 on: September 01, 2008, 08:04:02 PM »
I have only tried one type of food that is Kosher it is hotdogs that is it
You must have eaten many other things that were as Kosher as the hotdogs. If you look at the packaging on many foods you will see its marked Kosher. The preparation of  food has a great deal to do with it also.

I always laugh when I see anti-Semites saying kosher food is disgusting because they probably ate a tuna fish sandwich for lunch. lol

I might have eaten a lot more food that had the kosher stamp on it

I think eggs are kosher too as long as they don't have blood spots in them.

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« Reply #30 on: September 01, 2008, 08:04:58 PM »
I have only tried one type of food that is Kosher it is hotdogs that is it
You must have eaten many other things that were as Kosher as the hotdogs. If you look at the packaging on many foods you will see its marked Kosher. The preparation of  food has a great deal to do with it also.

I always laugh when I see anti-Semites saying kosher food is disgusting because they probably ate a tuna fish sandwich for lunch. lol

I might have eaten a lot more food that had the kosher stamp on it

I think eggs are kosher too as long as they don't have blood spots in them.

I dont eat eggs that often maybe twice a month

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« Reply #31 on: September 01, 2008, 08:08:07 PM »
   Actually a lot of things say they are kosher but are not. The second avenue non kosher deli is an example. In Baltimore there is a place called Lennies. They will grill hotdogs that they say are kosher but as soon as they are taken out of the package and hit the grill that is used with cheese and unkosher meets they cease to be kosher. What I would like to see is a restaurant that is less strict, but still adheres to reasonable laws of kosher. One where customers don't have to pay for someone to sit around and supervise all day, but does not do anything blatantly unkosher like serving ham and cooking milk and meat together.


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Re: Would you eat Kosher...
« Reply #32 on: September 01, 2008, 08:13:28 PM »
   Actually a lot of things say they are kosher but are not. The second avenue non kosher deli is an example. In Baltimore there is a place called Lennies. They will grill hotdogs that they say are kosher but as soon as they are taken out of the package and hit the grill that is used with cheese and unkosher meets they cease to be kosher. What I would like to see is a restaurant that is less strict, but still adheres to reasonable laws of kosher. One where customers don't have to pay for someone to sit around and supervise all day, but does not do anything blatantly unkosher like serving ham and cooking milk and meat together.




Why are you not allowed to mix Meat with Dairy?
What makes it not kosher?

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Re: Would you eat Kosher...
« Reply #33 on: September 01, 2008, 08:21:32 PM »
   Actually a lot of things say they are kosher but are not. The second avenue non kosher deli is an example. In Baltimore there is a place called Lennies. They will grill hotdogs that they say are kosher but as soon as they are taken out of the package and hit the grill that is used with cheese and unkosher meets they cease to be kosher. What I would like to see is a restaurant that is less strict, but still adheres to reasonable laws of kosher. One where customers don't have to pay for someone to sit around and supervise all day, but does not do anything blatantly unkosher like serving ham and cooking milk and meat together.




What makes it not Kosher?

Why are you not allowed to mix Meat with Dairy?

What makes it not kosher?
We are commanded not to "Cook the baby in the mothers milk", according to the Torah.

This has been taught to mean that we cannot cook meat with cheese or milk. It was for several 'reasons' including that it is a merciful thing, because milk is for the babys goodness, not for its death. And also because the Idol worshipping nations would always cook meat with cheese {sorta like Mexican food}.

From Rambams list of Mitzvahs this is Mitzvah # 195

195) Not to eat meat and milk cooked together Ex. 23:19

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23:19 The choicest first-fruits of thy land thou shalt bring into the house of the LORD thy God. Thou shalt not seethe a kid in its mother's milk.

There are many good resources which will explain it...
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http://www.aish.com/torahportion/livelyparsha/Lively_Parsha_Mishpatim.asp
KEEPING KOSHER

The Torah says: "Do not cook a kid in his mother's milk." These words are found 3 times in the Torah, representing 3 separate prohibitions.

   1. Do not cook meat with milk.

   2. Do not eat meat cooked with milk. (Yes, including cheeseburgers - oh no!)

   3. Do not derive any benefit from meat cooked with milk - even unintentionally!

The reason the Torah uses the words "kid in its mothers milk," is to teach us that even though the main sustenance of the kid is its mothers milk, it is still considered a foreign substance and forbidden to be mixed. Certainly all other milk is forbidden to be cooked with meat.

The Torah's specific wording also limits the prohibition to kosher milk (mother's milk), kosher meat (goat, sheep, cow) and only animals (as opposed to birds). Rabbinic law, however, prohibits all types of meat, and even meat mixed (but not cooked) with milk - since these could easily be confused with the forbidden stuff.

I hope this helps...

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Re: Would you eat Kosher...
« Reply #34 on: September 01, 2008, 08:22:32 PM »
   Actually a lot of things say they are kosher but are not. The second avenue non kosher deli is an example. In Baltimore there is a place called Lennies. They will grill hotdogs that they say are kosher but as soon as they are taken out of the package and hit the grill that is used with cheese and unkosher meets they cease to be kosher. What I would like to see is a restaurant that is less strict, but still adheres to reasonable laws of kosher. One where customers don't have to pay for someone to sit around and supervise all day, but does not do anything blatantly unkosher like serving ham and cooking milk and meat together.




What makes it not Kosher?

Why are you not allowed to mix Meat with Dairy?

What makes it not kosher?
We are commanded not to "Cook the baby in the mothers milk", according to the Torah.

This has been taught to mean that we cannot cook meat with cheese or milk. It was for several 'reasons' including that it is a merciful thing, because milk is for the babys goodness, not for its death. And also because the Idol worshipping nations would always cook meat with cheese {sorta like Mexican food}.

From Rambams list of Mitzvahs this is Mitzvah # 195

195) Not to eat meat and milk cooked together Ex. 23:19

Quote
23:19 The choicest first-fruits of thy land thou shalt bring into the house of the LORD thy G-d. Thou shalt not seethe a kid in its mother's milk.

There are many good resources which will explain it...
Quote
http://www.aish.com/torahportion/livelyparsha/Lively_Parsha_Mishpatim.asp
KEEPING KOSHER

The Torah says: "Do not cook a kid in his mother's milk." These words are found 3 times in the Torah, representing 3 separate prohibitions.

   1. Do not cook meat with milk.

   2. Do not eat meat cooked with milk. (Yes, including cheeseburgers - oh no!)

   3. Do not derive any benefit from meat cooked with milk - even unintentionally!

The reason the Torah uses the words "kid in its mothers milk," is to teach us that even though the main sustenance of the kid is its mothers milk, it is still considered a foreign substance and forbidden to be mixed. Certainly all other milk is forbidden to be cooked with meat.

The Torah's specific wording also limits the prohibition to kosher milk (mother's milk), kosher meat (goat, sheep, cow) and only animals (as opposed to birds). Rabbinic law, however, prohibits all types of meat, and even meat mixed (but not cooked) with milk - since these could easily be confused with the forbidden stuff.

I hope this helps...

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Re: Would you eat Kosher...
« Reply #35 on: September 01, 2008, 08:23:09 PM »
I would try it in Israel. Not to say that is all I'd eat or that I'd eat it a lot. You also have to be careful they have treif McDonald's
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Re: Would you eat Kosher...
« Reply #36 on: September 01, 2008, 08:32:06 PM »
the cheese at mcdonalds would have to be parve
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Re: Would you eat Kosher...
« Reply #37 on: September 01, 2008, 08:34:10 PM »
I'm curious about something.

A lot of times there are milk products in non-dairy creamers and soy cheese.

Casein is derived from milk and I don't understand how nondairy creamers can call themselves nondairy when they have casein in them.


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« Reply #38 on: September 01, 2008, 09:15:44 PM »
"What I would like to see is a restaurant that is less strict, but still adheres to reasonable laws of kosher."

 You have that today with most Kosher restaurants. Why would you want that anyway? People in a buisness can and do make mistakes, without a supervisor (or someone you can trust) who is to say that they will be honest, or even if they are- that they know the laws correctly. Anyway aren't you a certified Machgiach?
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Re: Would you eat Kosher...
« Reply #39 on: September 01, 2008, 09:28:27 PM »
I would try it, but if they make buisness like the kosher subway, then I would just try it once and then not come again. These places should lower prices, I understand if it is not too low, but still $8 for a 6' sub is not worth it when you have a swarma place next door which gives you a lot of meat for like a doller or 2 more. So my pointer to these places- have good prices, serve good food and people will come. (anyway with Mcdonalds even if I eat their I will very little anyway if it contains the usual things in the food).

Hehe, I know you are referring to Grillpoint on Jewel Avenue. What you are saying is very true.
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« Reply #40 on: September 02, 2008, 09:10:08 AM »
I would try it in Israel. Not to say that is all I'd eat or that I'd eat it a lot. You also have to be careful they have treif McDonald's
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« Reply #41 on: September 02, 2008, 04:36:46 PM »
DownwithIslam, I wouldn't eat at D___Donald's if my life depended on it. That chemical factory grants whole new meaning to the term "food poisoning". Yimach schmo to the people who run this evil corporation. (But I hope Fag Buchanus and Bill Clinton continue to eat at McD's a lot.)

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« Reply #42 on: September 02, 2008, 09:57:20 PM »
I would try it, but if they make buisness like the kosher subway, then I would just try it once and then not come again. These places should lower prices, I understand if it is not too low, but still $8 for a 6' sub is not worth it when you have a swarma place next door which gives you a lot of meat for like a doller or 2 more. So my pointer to these places- have good prices, serve good food and people will come. (anyway with Mcdonalds even if I eat their I will very little anyway if it contains the usual things in the food).

Hehe, I know you are referring to Grillpoint on Jewel Avenue. What you are saying is very true.

   Correct me if I'm wrong, but there is only a Kosher Subway in Brooklyn. I don't know of any in the Main Street area.
   Kosher Bite in Baltimore is pretty good. I also like the Falafel at Carmels.
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« Reply #43 on: September 02, 2008, 09:59:43 PM »
I would try it, but if they make buisness like the kosher subway, then I would just try it once and then not come again. These places should lower prices, I understand if it is not too low, but still $8 for a 6' sub is not worth it when you have a swarma place next door which gives you a lot of meat for like a doller or 2 more. So my pointer to these places- have good prices, serve good food and people will come. (anyway with Mcdonalds even if I eat their I will very little anyway if it contains the usual things in the food).

Hehe, I know you are referring to Grillpoint on Jewel Avenue. What you are saying is very true.

   Correct me if I'm wrong, but there is only a Kosher Subway in Brooklyn. I don't know of any in the Main Street area.
   Kosher Bite in Baltimore is pretty good. I also like the Falafel at Carmels.

  Their is a Glat Kosher Subway right next to Grill Point on Main Street and Jewel ave.
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Re: Would you eat Kosher...
« Reply #44 on: September 02, 2008, 10:03:15 PM »
I would try it, but if they make buisness like the kosher subway, then I would just try it once and then not come again. These places should lower prices, I understand if it is not too low, but still $8 for a 6' sub is not worth it when you have a swarma place next door which gives you a lot of meat for like a doller or 2 more. So my pointer to these places- have good prices, serve good food and people will come. (anyway with Mcdonalds even if I eat their I will very little anyway if it contains the usual things in the food).

Hehe, I know you are referring to Grillpoint on Jewel Avenue. What you are saying is very true.

   Correct me if I'm wrong, but there is only a Kosher Subway in Brooklyn. I don't know of any in the Main Street area.
   Kosher Bite in Baltimore is pretty good. I also like the Falafel at Carmels.

  Their is a Glat Kosher Subway right next to Grill Point on Main Street and Jewel ave.

   I'll have to take a trip there on Sunday and bite the bullet to spend $8 for a 6". I'm interesting in trying Shwarma at a subway. Did they get rid of the old place on the corner of Main and Jewel? The one that was across the street from the bus stop.
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« Reply #45 on: September 02, 2008, 10:06:25 PM »
That's sad. Why does it cost eight dollars to get a freaking six-inch sandwich at the NY Subways? In Cali (not an inexpensive state to live), footlongs generally run in the vicinity of $6.45. The above sounds like highway robbery.  >:(

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« Reply #46 on: September 02, 2008, 10:09:28 PM »
I would try it, but if they make buisness like the kosher subway, then I would just try it once and then not come again. These places should lower prices, I understand if it is not too low, but still $8 for a 6' sub is not worth it when you have a swarma place next door which gives you a lot of meat for like a doller or 2 more. So my pointer to these places- have good prices, serve good food and people will come. (anyway with Mcdonalds even if I eat their I will very little anyway if it contains the usual things in the food).

Hehe, I know you are referring to Grillpoint on Jewel Avenue. What you are saying is very true.

   Correct me if I'm wrong, but there is only a Kosher Subway in Brooklyn. I don't know of any in the Main Street area.
   Kosher Bite in Baltimore is pretty good. I also like the Falafel at Carmels.

  Their is a Glat Kosher Subway right next to Grill Point on Main Street and Jewel ave.

   I'll have to take a trip there on Sunday and bite the bullet to spend $8 for a 6". I'm interesting in trying Shwarma at a subway. Did they get rid of the old place on the corner of Main and Jewel? The one that was across the street from the bus stop.

 I dont know if they have swarma their. Maybe they do, I dont know.

  I think that place you are speaking about is either the Kosher Subway or the Kosher Wine store (both are new). Some time ago their was a Jewish bookstore their, but they moved right around the corner to a bigger place.
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« Reply #47 on: September 02, 2008, 10:14:18 PM »
That's sad. Why does it cost eight dollars to get a freaking six-inch sandwich at the NY Subways? In Cali (not an inexpensive state to live), footlongs generally run in the vicinity of $6.45. The above sounds like highway robbery.  >:(

 Its all supply and demand. If one is able and willing, they can make any prices they want as long as they do not force you to buy what they are selling.
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My zeal incenses me, for my adversaries have forgotten Your words.
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 I am young and despised; I have not forgotten Your precepts.

" A fool does not realize, and an unwise person does not understand this (i.e. the following:) When the wicked bloom like grass, and the evildoers blossom (i.e. when they seem extremly successful), it is to destroy them forever (i.e. they are rewarded for their few good deeds in this World, and they will have no portion in the World to Come!)

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Re: Would you eat Kosher...
« Reply #48 on: September 02, 2008, 11:31:01 PM »
My best friend is Israeli, so I've eaten plenty of kosher food. I've had good and bad kosher, it's all relative. Kosher has nothing to do with food tasting good or not though..

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« Reply #49 on: September 03, 2008, 08:08:52 AM »
That's sad. Why does it cost eight dollars to get a freaking six-inch sandwich at the NY Subways? In Cali (not an inexpensive state to live), footlongs generally run in the vicinity of $6.45. The above sounds like highway robbery.  >:(

 Its all supply and demand. If one is able and willing, they can make any prices they want as long as they do not force you to buy what they are selling.

   When supply and demand gets out of balance, people look for other solutions. In the case of a Kosher restaurant with a monopoly, the alternative is not to eat kosher, as repulsive as this is, this is the choice that most Jews opt for. If we want to see more people eating kosher, the Kosher restaurants have to remain competitive with not only other Kosher restaurants, but all restaurants. They need to find other solutions to the extra expense than jacking up the price beyond the extra cost. One example would be to pay the Hasgucha on tips rather than a salary. This would encourage him to do a better job also. Keep in mind that some things such as water don't even cost them more. Subway's big thing is the $5.00 footlong. To use the Subway name The Kosher subway should really participate in this promotion even if it is just the veggie patty.
Does it bother you that you have to face the dome and the rock to say the sh'ma?