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Shalom from U.S.
JohnWilliams:
Not saying that anybody here hates Muslims, since I don't know anybody and haven't even had a chance to read any posts, but if I did hate Muslims how would it make me different than their fundamentalists view of us kafir?
Now I'm not intending to proselytize, as much as explain my position, so please give me a pass. Here is why I love Muslims:
Mark 12:29 And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments [is], Hear, O Israel; The Lord our G-d is one Lord: 30 And thou shalt love the Lord thy G-d with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: this [is] the first commandment. 31 And the second [is] like, [namely] this, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. There is none other commandment greater than these. 32 And the scribe said unto him, Well, Master, thou hast said the truth: for there is one G-d; and there is none other but he:
1Jo 4:7 Beloved, let us love one another: for love is of G-d; and every one that loveth is born of G-d, and knoweth G-d. 8 He that loveth not knoweth not G-d; for G-d is love.
Most Muslims are not violent. Most are likely much like you and I. Many I have chatted with claim not to hate Jews, though it might perhaps make them religious apostates. They are folks that were simply raised in, and indoctrinated into, a religion that was designed by Satan as channeled through THE false prophet Mohammed.
The reason I am so desperate for Muslims is that, unlike an atheist for example that chooses to be unregenerate, Muslims have been deluded into believing they worship G-d, when as far as I can tell by my bible, and as is made obvious by 11,775 deadly Islamic terror attacks around the world, just since 9-11, they have been claimed by Satan.
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/
Islam is the opposite at every turn.
JohnWilliams:
PS thanks for all the warm welcomes guys.
Dan:
Welcome Aboard JW!
Ulli:
First welcome to the forum. :)
Darby is imo not so bad, actually I think he has in some fields great thoughts, althrough I have in different fields a different oppinion.
What are your theological differences with Darby :)
Shlomo:
--- Quote from: JohnWilliams on September 03, 2008, 03:20:49 PM ---Not saying that anybody here hates Muslims, since I don't know anybody and haven't even had a chance to read any posts, but if I did hate Muslims how would it make me different than their fundamentalists view of us kafir?
Now I'm not intending to proselytize, as much as explain my position, so please give me a pass. Here is why I love Muslims:
Mark 12:29 And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments [is], Hear, O Israel; The Lord our G-d is one Lord: 30 And thou shalt love the Lord thy G-d with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: this [is] the first commandment. 31 And the second [is] like, [namely] this, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. There is none other commandment greater than these. 32 And the scribe said unto him, Well, Master, thou hast said the truth: for there is one G-d; and there is none other but he:
1Jo 4:7 Beloved, let us love one another: for love is of G-d; and every one that loveth is born of G-d, and knoweth G-d. 8 He that loveth not knoweth not G-d; for G-d is love.
Most Muslims are not violent. Most are likely much like you and I. Many I have chatted with claim not to hate Jews, though it might perhaps make them religious apostates. They are folks that were simply raised in, and indoctrinated into, a religion that was designed by Satan as channeled through THE false prophet Mohammed.
The reason I am so desperate for Muslims is that, unlike an atheist for example that chooses to be unregenerate, Muslims have been deluded into believing they worship G-d, when as far as I can tell by my bible, and as is made obvious by 11,775 deadly Islamic terror attacks around the world, just since 9-11, they have been claimed by Satan.
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/
Islam is the opposite at every turn.
--- End quote ---
John, never... and I mean never... does it every tell us to love the people who want to kill us because we aren't like them. Never. It is absolutely ridiculous, naive, and absurd to love people who would kill you and your family if they only had a chance. In fact, the Bible tells us that we are required to kill someone if they rise up against us.
This brainwashed philosophy of turn the other cheek to evil people who would rape and/or kill your family, children, friends, neighbors is misled and what I would call "overly righteous". In other words, people arrogantly think they are better than others if they "love" people who want them dead. This is ignorant and part of the problem with self hating people who take ZERO action against eminent danger claiming instead they are righteous - when in reality, they are disobeying G-d and setting themselves (and loved ones) up for death. G-d tells us that if we take no action against evil, it's as if we sanctioned it.
Secondly, this is a Jewish forum with many wonderful Christian members but I have had complaints that you sound like you are trying to convert people to Christianity. If that is even the slightest thought in your mind, then you are not welcome here. If you accept the Jewish people and you have no problem with Torah Judaism that we practice, then I have no problem at all. I will not dance around this issue or play games with you. Please show respect to the Jewish members who love G-d just as the Christian members do.
-Shlomo
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