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Who Is your favourite person in the Torah?
muman613:
--- Quote from: Mo1988 on September 04, 2008, 01:08:29 AM ---Yisro. "Now I know that Hashem is the greatest out of all the gods." Yisro also was also the architect of the judicial system at the time, as he gave Moshe advice on how to construct the most effective system of court. He also represents the epitomy of teshuvah and proves that even the most far removed people can still choose the right path. Plus, Yisro was my bar mitzvah Parasha :)
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Shalom mo1988,
My Bar Mitzvah portion is Mishpatim which is right after Yitro. I love both Yitro and Mishpatim because they are the parshas of the Asirah Hadibrot {10 Sayings}.
I dont know about Yitro though. He was a master of Avodah Zarah. In many senses you are right that he is the prototypical convert to Judaism. He realized the awesomeness of Hashem and put down his idols and his black magic. He is also righteous because he helped Moshe when he needed help in Midian and fed him and gave him his daughter Zipporah as as wife. Because of his mercy and his Chesed, loving kindness, he merited being brought into the Jewish family.
You know that Yitro established the justice system which delegated from Moshe the power to judge the people. It is no coincidence that Mishpatim contains many mitzvahs for judges. I am looking at the Parsha right now. It is written:
--- Quote ---Shemos 22:27-23:17
22:27. You shall not curse a judge, neither shall you curse a prince among your people. 28. Your fullness offering and your heave offering you shall not delay; the firstborn of your sons you shall give Me. 29. So shall you do with your cattle and with your sheep: seven days it shall be with its mother, on the eighth day you may give it to Me. 30. And you shall be holy people to Me, and flesh torn in the field you shall not eat; you shall throw it to the dogs.
Chapter 23
1. You shall not accept a false report; do not place your hand with a wicked person to be a false witness. 2. You shall not follow the majority for evil, and you shall not respond concerning a lawsuit to follow many to pervert [justice]. 3. Neither shall you glorify a poor man in his lawsuit. 4. If you come upon your enemy's bull or his stray donkey, you shall surely return it to him. 5. If you see your enemy's donkey lying under its burden would you refrain from helping him? You shall surely help along with him. 6. You shall not pervert the judgment of your poor man in his lawsuit. 7. Distance yourself from a false matter; and do not kill a truly innocent person or one who has been declared innocent, for I will not vindicate a guilty person. 8. You shall not accept a bribe, for a bribe will blind the clear sighted and corrupt words that are right. 9. And you shall not oppress a stranger, for you know the feelings of the stranger, since you were strangers in the land of Egypt. 10. Six years you may sow your land and gather in its produce. 11. But in the seventh [year] you shall release it and abandon it; the poor of your people shall eat [it], and what they leave over, the beasts of the field shall eat. So shall you do to your vineyard [and] to your olive trees. 12. Six days you may do your work, but on the seventh day you shall rest, in order that your ox and your donkey shall rest, and your maidservant's son and the stranger shall be refreshed. 13. Concerning all that I have said to you you shall beware, and the name of the gods of others you shall not mention; it shall not be heard through your mouth. 14. Three times you shall slaughter sacrifices to Me during the year. 15. You shall observe the festival of unleavened bread; for seven days you shall eat unleavened bread as I have commanded you, at the appointed time of the month of springtime, for then you left Egypt, and they shall not appear before Me empty handed. 16. And the festival of the harvest, the first fruits of your labors, which you will sow in the field, and the festival of the ingathering at the departure of the year, when you gather in [the products of] your labors from the field. 17. Three times during the year, all your males shall appear before the Master, the Lord.
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I think you and I value the aspect of Chesed which is the hand of Hashem to the Jewish people. Hashem is our father in heaven and we are his people and as Hashem is merciful, so are we.
muman613
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The One and Only Mo:
--- Quote from: muman613 on September 04, 2008, 04:43:03 AM ---
--- Quote from: Mo1988 on September 04, 2008, 01:08:29 AM ---Yisro. "Now I know that Hashem is the greatest out of all the gods." Yisro also was also the architect of the judicial system at the time, as he gave Moshe advice on how to construct the most effective system of court. He also represents the epitomy of teshuvah and proves that even the most far removed people can still choose the right path. Plus, Yisro was my bar mitzvah Parasha :)
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Shalom mo1988,
My Bar Mitzvah portion is Mishpatim which is right after Yitro. I love both Yitro and Mishpatim because they are the Parashat of the Asirah Hadibrot {10 Sayings}.
I dont know about Yitro though. He was a master of Avodah Zarah. In many senses you are right that he is the prototypical convert to Judaism. He realized the awesomeness of Hashem and put down his idols and his black magic. He is also righteous because he helped Moshe when he needed help in Midian and fed him and gave him his daughter Zipporah as as wife. Because of his mercy and his Chesed, loving kindness, he merited being brought into the Jewish family.
You know that Yitro established the justice system which delegated from Moshe the power to judge the people. It is no coincidence that Mishpatim contains many mitzvahs for judges. I am looking at the Parasha right now. It is written:
--- Quote ---Shemos 22:27-23:17
22:27. You shall not curse a judge, neither shall you curse a prince among your people. 28. Your fullness offering and your heave offering you shall not delay; the firstborn of your sons you shall give Me. 29. So shall you do with your cattle and with your sheep: seven days it shall be with its mother, on the eighth day you may give it to Me. 30. And you shall be holy people to Me, and flesh torn in the field you shall not eat; you shall throw it to the dogs.
Chapter 23
1. You shall not accept a false report; do not place your hand with a wicked person to be a false witness. 2. You shall not follow the majority for evil, and you shall not respond concerning a lawsuit to follow many to pervert [justice]. 3. Neither shall you glorify a poor man in his lawsuit. 4. If you come upon your enemy's bull or his stray donkey, you shall surely return it to him. 5. If you see your enemy's donkey lying under its burden would you refrain from helping him? You shall surely help along with him. 6. You shall not pervert the judgment of your poor man in his lawsuit. 7. Distance yourself from a false matter; and do not kill a truly innocent person or one who has been declared innocent, for I will not vindicate a guilty person. 8. You shall not accept a bribe, for a bribe will blind the clear sighted and corrupt words that are right. 9. And you shall not oppress a stranger, for you know the feelings of the stranger, since you were strangers in the land of Egypt. 10. Six years you may sow your land and gather in its produce. 11. But in the seventh [year] you shall release it and abandon it; the poor of your people shall eat [it], and what they leave over, the beasts of the field shall eat. So shall you do to your vineyard [and] to your olive trees. 12. Six days you may do your work, but on the seventh day you shall rest, in order that your ox and your donkey shall rest, and your maidservant's son and the stranger shall be refreshed. 13. Concerning all that I have said to you you shall beware, and the name of the gods of others you shall not mention; it shall not be heard through your mouth. 14. Three times you shall slaughter sacrifices to Me during the year. 15. You shall observe the festival of unleavened bread; for seven days you shall eat unleavened bread as I have commanded you, at the appointed time of the month of springtime, for then you left Egypt, and they shall not appear before Me empty handed. 16. And the festival of the harvest, the first fruits of your labors, which you will sow in the field, and the festival of the ingathering at the departure of the year, when you gather in [the products of] your labors from the field. 17. Three times during the year, all your males shall appear before the Master, the Lord.
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I think you and I value the aspect of Chesed which is the hand of Hashem to the Jewish people. Hashem is our father in heaven and we are his people and as Hashem is merciful, so are we.
muman613
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Yep. Olam Chessed Yibaneh O0 And when it comes to all the other people in the Torah, I feel as if that they were so above and beyond this world that for the level they were on you'd almost have to expect the kindness that swelled from them. Not to take anything away from them, Chas V'Shalom, but all in all, Yitro still appeals to me more because unlike the Tzadikim before him, he was a bona-fide Rasha, and he converted for reasons that affected him indirectly.
takebackourtemple:
In the five books of Moshe, it would be Moshe for bringing us out of Egypt. In the torah up to the destruction of the second temple it is a Tie between David Hamelech and Judah the Macabee.
Tzvi Ben Roshel1:
Shimon and Levi O0
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