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Offline Pescarii

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On the Relations of Russia
« on: October 03, 2008, 01:27:53 AM »
Russia is a most complicated country. It extends from some of the most basic elements of life to the most technologically advanced to some of the most cultured. For all the sophistication or poverty of Russia, the leadership is both good and bad.

Putin (for he is still the one in power in practice) is a man with rational power instincts. That is more than can be said for many a Western country. The problem is that he fails to understand much of domestic policy. The rising price of oil allows Putin to centralize the economy. There are important elements to this. Russia is the bastion of Judeo-Christian civilization from the East. If Russia is poor, Russia will have difficulty in holding off or demotivating Jihadists from the East.

Russia is in many ways more rational than the Western leaders used to emotionalized thinking. Sadly, Russia's elites have failed to provide a coherent strategy for Russian growth in both economic and moral terms. Putin tries to repay the messes that Yeltsin created economically but fails to understand the need for more than financial investment. The stability of the government cannot face large business barons even if they are legal.

The economic drain corruption has (and dictatorship spurs corruption) impedes Russia's development and results in dangerous cultural shifts. If they Russian social model cannot satisfy the desires of the people, they will look to the glamour of Western Hedonism. That is not the ideology of all Westerners but it is that of much of the Western media. Hedonism attracts people to leave. Those who can leave are Russians with skills who could do more for Russia if the bureaucracy did not stifle their creativity.

Russia is also losing the demographic battle with its Muslim minorities due to the lack desire to raise a family in such harsh circumstances as Russia's ordinary life. People need hope. Putin offers a little but not in the long run. Putin is a man who can fight for Russia's interests (and indirectly civilization's) but who failes to build the society needed to sustain that power.

Russia an America are not very different in some ways. Both incorporate many different traditions and ideas. Russia suffers from a lack of a clear and deeply rooted social model just as America does. Russia has massive potential as does America. Both countries are rooted in the Christian tradition.

Sadly, until there is greater freedom from corruption and bureaucracy, Russia will continue to lose its best workers and demoralize its Russian population. Russia must also protect more free-speech and open its government to public criticism if it is to reform wisely.

Russia still possesses skill lost in the West. Russia's failure to free its people ensures that that advantage and benefit is squandered.

Russia faces a severe demographic danger and only making the country a good place for families to live will bolster it. A clear moral approach and logical ideas are needed to rally the people to a new civic participation. Corruption and bureaucracy create despair that saps Russia.

As it stands, Russia is not the best social model to follow due to the corruption of the elites and the lack of freedom. Until that is resolved, America is still best. The American Conservative tradition is one of the best of all but a new Russia can gradually overcome the residual foolishness of those who cannot see the new enemy and seek to fight the old war.
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Re: On the Relations of Russia
« Reply #1 on: October 03, 2008, 04:52:12 PM »
Let me sum Russia up more simply for you.

_Communist scum

_ Nation of conquest

_ Funder of nuclear terrorists

_ Funder of economic terrorists (Hugo Chavez)

_ KGB radical Vlad Putin
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Re: On the Relations of Russia
« Reply #2 on: October 03, 2008, 04:59:33 PM »
Eastern European Communists are not as radical as Western communists. They tend to be a bit more commonsensical than the average American Liberal.

Every Nation conquers, I respect those who are good at it.

The support of Chavez and Iran is due to an effort to distract America from its effort to expand its allies up to Russia's borders. It is in the long-run a bad strategy for all concerned but is a sensible strategic choice in the short term. The question is that the short-run is out-lasted by the long-term aftereffects.

The KGB was not as radical as supposed. I suggest you read The Sword and the Shield by Vasili Mitrokhin.
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Re: On the Relations of Russia
« Reply #3 on: October 03, 2008, 05:03:36 PM »
Eastern European Communists are not as radical as Western communists. They tend to be a bit more commonsensical than the average American Liberal.

Every Nation conquers, I respect those who are good at it.

The support of Chavez and Iran is due to an effort to distract America from its effort to expand its allies up to Russia's borders. It is in the long-run a bad strategy for all concerned but is a sensible strategic choice in the short term. The question is that the short-run is out-lasted by the long-term aftereffects.

The KGB was not as radical as supposed. I suggest you read The Sword and the Shield by Vasili Mitrokhin.
I will pick up the book Pescarii. We will talk about this. But, the fact that this Communist Russian regime is supporting Iran and Chavez out of spite to the USA still does not justify it.
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Re: On the Relations of Russia
« Reply #4 on: October 05, 2008, 06:09:09 PM »
Let me sum Russia up more simply for you.

_Communist scum

_ Nation of conquest

_ Funder of nuclear terrorists

_ Funder of economic terrorists (Hugo Chavez)

_ KGB radical Vlad Putin


The USA

- Hypocrisy, capitalist scum

- Ultimate nation of conquest

- Creator and funder of nuclear terrorists

- The ONLY nation to ever use an atomic weapon 2wice on civilian targets!

- Funder, not just of economic terrorists, but of every form of terror

- CIA = assassins, supporters of Muslim terrorist, creator of Osama bin Laden, over throwers of democratically elected governments in exchange for puppet dictators
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Re: On the Relations of Russia
« Reply #5 on: October 05, 2008, 06:16:16 PM »
Everybody is hypocritical so that is not much criticism.

Everybody conquers, the US has done less than its potential. Rome was famous for its conquest and the world is better off for the British Empire. Conquest is not the problem. The Serbian Empire existed because it conquered.

Are there nuclear terrorists yet?

Every country uses economic trade as a weapon, that is not an innovation.

Did the US start the French intellectuals who believed in terrorizing people into civic virtue? I believe that John Adams was a bit hostile to them and there was the US-French naval war in 1802-1804.

And nuclear weapons are so much more destructive than carpet bombing? The issue is not what the past problems were but the future.

The CIA is horribly incompetent. That endangers us all. A competent CIA who actually knows a thing about life and history would be a good thing because then they wouldn't make stupid mistakes like supporting enemies.

The question is not America's or Russia's past faults but what we are going to do to survive in the face of Islamic terrorism.
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Re: On the Relations of Russia
« Reply #6 on: October 05, 2008, 06:24:34 PM »
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The USA

- Hypocrisy, capitalist scum

- Ultimate nation of conquest

- Creator and funder of nuclear terrorists

- The ONLY nation to ever use an atomic weapon 2wice on civilian targets!

- Funder, not just of economic terrorists, but of every form of terror

- CIA = assassins, supporters of Muslim terrorist, creator of Osama bin Laden, over throwers of democratically elected governments in exchange for puppet dictators

Serbian-Australian, this is not the place to be criticizing America.  Almost all the global moderators and almost all the Admins are proud Americans.  So if you really think America is so evil, you might want to post on another forum, or start your own. 

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Re: On the Relations of Russia
« Reply #7 on: October 05, 2008, 06:30:15 PM »
  I will lock this topic! Maybe that will be one good lesson for anyone who search for fights in here!
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Re: On the Relations of Russia
« Reply #8 on: October 05, 2008, 06:39:13 PM »
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The USA

- Hypocrisy, capitalist scum

- Ultimate nation of conquest

- Creator and funder of nuclear terrorists

- The ONLY nation to ever use an atomic weapon 2wice on civilian targets!

- Funder, not just of economic terrorists, but of every form of terror

- CIA = assassins, supporters of Muslim terrorist, creator of Osama bin Laden, over throwers of democratically elected governments in exchange for puppet dictators

Serbian-Australian, this is not the place to be criticizing America.  Almost all the global moderators and almost all the Admins are proud Americans.  So if you really think America is so evil, you might want to post on another forum, or start your own. 

Exactly my thoughts. Capitalism and free market economy are the only ways for the individual for real personal, economical and religious freedom.

If you are a Socialist, this forum is obviously not the right place for you.
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