Author Topic: "2 State Solution IS the Solution"? (Read 3007 times)

Lubab · « **on:** October 02, 2008, 09:49:07 PM »

That was the wrong thing to say.

Bush advisors must have prepped her.

~Hanna~ · « **Reply #1 on:** October 02, 2008, 09:50:02 PM »

She said that? Cuz that is not what she really thinks.

schrodinger's cat · « **Reply #2 on:** October 02, 2008, 09:52:36 PM »

Goodbye Palin. she is not doing well.

She should have said no to the 2 state solution

Lubab · « **Reply #3 on:** October 02, 2008, 09:57:43 PM »

Moderator is being surprisingly fair.
Palin is definitely holding her own, when she get's a question she doesn't know...she redirects to something she does know.

She's very energetic and Biden looks old and crabby.

I'm watching here:

http://current.com/topics/88834922_hack_the_debate

Scriabin · « **Reply #4 on:** October 02, 2008, 10:00:32 PM »

She said that we need to support our friend Israel with a two-state solution.

Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks · « **Reply #5 on:** October 02, 2008, 10:00:48 PM »

Relax, relax. She is just going along with what she has to say. There was no mistaking who she supported in her response to the Israel question. I would not worry about it.

schrodinger's cat · « **Reply #6 on:** October 02, 2008, 10:05:25 PM »

Quote from: Scriabin on October 02, 2008, 10:00:32 PM

She said that we need to support our friend, Israel with a two-state solution.

NO TWO STATE SOLUTION.

MarZutra · « **Reply #7 on:** October 02, 2008, 10:09:30 PM »

The Americans, like the Israelis, have NO spine whatsoever. If they had any moral fiber they'd come out and say "It is time to close the book on the years of disinformation. There are no "Palestinians". There is no "West Bank". There is no "East Jerusalem" and most certainly no "occupied territories". There has been a failed "Two State Solution" in 1923; The Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan and since 628AD 51 Mohammedan States. It is time for these States to show their support for their Mohammedan brethren by opening their doors in a true example Humanitarianism. Starting on January 1st 2009, the Arabs living West of the River Jordan will be transfered."

It is all a fraud! They've been trying to sell the Jews down the toilet since 1947. "There are no allies only interests" - Rabbi Meir Kahane Z"L.

Israel has no .......ing spine! Israel makes me SICK to be a Jew! G-d it is infuriating!

Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks · « **Reply #8 on:** October 02, 2008, 10:32:45 PM »

I think she probably figures that the "two state solution" is what is best for Israel. I really do not think there is anything more to it.

Dr. Dan · « **Reply #9 on:** October 02, 2008, 10:32:58 PM »

i was booing at that statement.

Rubystars · « **Reply #10 on:** October 02, 2008, 10:35:23 PM »

Look at it from an outside perspective for just a moment guys. Israel says this is what they want. Is she going to tell Israel "You don't know what you want."

She's in a very difficult position. Right now if she listen's to the Israeli leadership they say the best thing to do to show friendship to Israel is to help this process.

MarZutra · « **Reply #11 on:** October 02, 2008, 10:38:25 PM »

Quote from: Rubystars on October 02, 2008, 10:35:23 PM

Look at it from an outside perspective for just a moment guys. Israel says this is what they want. Is she going to tell Israel "You don't know what you want."

She's in a very difficult position. Right now if she listen's to the Israeli leadership they say the best thing to do to show friendship to Israel is to help this process.

What Israel wants is not what their Establishment wants. Highly comparable to America with their border with Mexico. The vast majority of Israelis want to toss out the Arabs like Americans want for the illegals...

Such a disgrace. Not one individual with a spine.. Such terrible debasement being passed off as leaders... G-d help us...

Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks · « **Reply #12 on:** October 02, 2008, 10:41:59 PM »

Quote from: MarZutra on October 02, 2008, 10:38:25 PM

What Israel wants is not what their Establishment wants. Highly comparable to America with their border with Mexico. The vast majority of Israelis want to toss out the Arabs like Americans want for the illegals...

Except that as of now, that is not true. Most Israelis do want "peace" with the Arabs at all costs--even if it means more surrender and national suicide. They don't know any better and have been brainwashed.

Rubystars · « **Reply #13 on:** October 02, 2008, 10:42:58 PM »

Since Israel is supposedly a democracy it would be easy to assume that the leadership represents the Israeli public too.

Didn't most of the Israeli public support the destruction of Gush Katif? Or was that just a lie by the mainstream media?

Mishmaat · « **Reply #14 on:** October 02, 2008, 10:52:37 PM »

Yeah, Lubab. This only confirms that we're in for a lot of trouble even if McCain wins.

Scriabin · « **Reply #15 on:** October 02, 2008, 10:57:31 PM »

Quote from: C.F. on October 02, 2008, 10:41:59 PM

Quote from: MarZutra on October 02, 2008, 10:38:25 PM
What Israel wants is not what their Establishment wants. Highly comparable to America with their border with Mexico. The vast majority of Israelis want to toss out the Arabs like Americans want for the illegals...
Except that as of now, that is not true. Most Israelis do want "peace" with the Arabs at all costs--even if it means more surrender and national suicide. They don't know any better and have been brainwashed.

Perhaps in Tel Aviv.

Christian Zionist · « **Reply #16 on:** October 02, 2008, 10:59:50 PM »

I am slightly disappointed about the 2 state solution but she did not mention "palestinians". She mentioned about moving the embassy to Jerusalem. I do not think she would press for 2 state solution if elected. But she could have done a better job regarding Israel.

Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks · « **Reply #17 on:** October 02, 2008, 11:44:40 PM »

Relax. She probably doesn't even know exactly what the two-state solution is. From her Israel speech, it was VERY clear who she supports. I say we give her a break here.

DownwithIslam · « **Reply #18 on:** October 03, 2008, 12:12:58 AM »

I was very disappointed at her calling for a fakestinian state as well. It didn't seem like she even knew what she was saying though. I think it was mccain telling her to say that. I have a feeling that Palin wouldn't mind all the muzzies being thrown the hell out of Israel. Unfortunately she had to listen to mccains drek.

muman613 · « **Reply #19 on:** October 03, 2008, 12:20:43 AM »

Quote from: C.F. on October 02, 2008, 10:41:59 PM

Quote from: MarZutra on October 02, 2008, 10:38:25 PM
What Israel wants is not what their Establishment wants. Highly comparable to America with their border with Mexico. The vast majority of Israelis want to toss out the Arabs like Americans want for the illegals...
Except that as of now, that is not true. Most Israelis do want "peace" with the Arabs at all costs--even if it means more surrender and national suicide. They don't know any better and have been brainwashed.

I agree with CF on this one. I have a couple Israeli friends and they are, IMO, mostly looking for peace at any cost. My friend gives me the impression that the majority of Israelis are leaning to the left, which is why Olmert and Livni are able to mess with Israel. I believe that Israel has been suffering from some serious mental problems because it seems they are seeking national suicide. I pains me when I read that Iranian Potato head Armandhaminjinadad is already gloating because he knows that the path Israel is on is toward its own extinction.

Unless something major happens I dont have a lot of hope. I used to believe that the IDF was the mightiest fighting force in the world. Now it is very embarassing to even think about IDF with their pansy-like performance in the last Lebanon war. I thought IDF would crush the opponent and the sky would pound the enemy. But now the IDF is the laughing stock of the world and only a miracle will change this.

Hashem will show us his wisdom, pray it be tomorrow.

muman613

Roadwarrior · « **Reply #20 on:** October 03, 2008, 01:11:47 AM »

I am not bothered either that she said that. It was a loaded question.
and she was forced to give an answer. This issue can be dealt with later.

The biggest and most immediate danger right now that Israel faces is Iran becoming a nuclear power

And her language was very strong about preventing Iran from getting nuclear weapons and in preventing a second holocaust.
She was unequivocal about this.

Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks · « **Reply #21 on:** October 03, 2008, 01:13:06 AM »

Quote from: DownwithIslam on October 03, 2008, 12:12:58 AM

I was very disappointed at her calling for a fakestinian state as well. It didn't seem like she even knew what she was saying though. I think it was mccain telling her to say that. I have a feeling that Palin wouldn't mind all the muzzies being thrown the hell out of Israel. Unfortunately she had to listen to mccains drek.

Exactly. She figures that "two states" is the pro-Israel solution.

MarZutra · « **Reply #22 on:** October 03, 2008, 08:12:18 AM »

Totally disagree. Most Israeli's know that peace cannot be attained by giving away land. Most Israelis know that catering to the Arabs is a show of weakness in their culture. This is why they have an adage about never shaking hands with an arab because you'll pull back a stump.

Most Israelis want to throw out the Arabs. The only religious Jews that hold giving away land is the Heredim/Hassidim and the leftist scum. This is the sad fact of the matter. Tovia Singer and Eugene Narrett on Www.IsraelEndTimes.Com speaks of this as well.

....sorry brothers... must disagree with you...

Kahane-Was-Right BT · « **Reply #23 on:** October 03, 2008, 08:21:35 AM »

Quote from: MarZutra on October 03, 2008, 08:12:18 AM

Most Israelis want to throw out the Arabs. The only religious Jews that hold giving away land is the Heredim/Hassidim and the leftist scum. This is the sad fact of the matter.

The rank and file charedim don't. It's their traitorous political parties that sit in governments of seculars who do give away land, and who do themselves support it (ie Rav Ovadia). But the rank and file haredim often go along with the rabbis, but talk to some of them and see if they think it's a good thing. Most don't, unless you are talking to Naturei Karta or a Satmar (only some Satmar). In fact, many cite it as yet another reason why the evil zionist state is so evil - they threw all those Jews out. They probably think their "leaders" and rabbis are powerless to oppose it so they don't blame their traitorous parties for going along.

Zevida · « **Reply #24 on:** October 03, 2008, 08:32:48 AM »

If by 2 state solution they mean that Israel remains a Jewish state and the Palestinians leave and go to one of the many Arab states, then yes.