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Re: "2 State Solution IS the Solution"?
« Reply #25 on: October 03, 2008, 11:06:25 AM »
If by 2 state solution they mean that Israel remains a Jewish state and the Palestinians leave and go to one of the many Arab states, then yes.
Agree with you 99%!  The 1% in disagreement is the fact that there are no "Palestinians"....  ahistorical.  Predicated on a lie.   ;D
"‘Vehorashtem/Numbers 33:53’: When you burn out the Land’s inhabitants, you will merit to bestow upon your children the Land as an inheritance. If you do not burn them out, then even if you conquer the Land, you will not merit to allot it to your children as an inheritance." - Ovadiah ben Yacov Sforno; Italian Rabbi, Biblical Commentator, Philosopher and Physician.  1475-1550.

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Re: "2 State Solution IS the Solution"?
« Reply #26 on: October 03, 2008, 11:50:48 AM »
The rank and file charedim don't.   It's their traitorous political parties that sit in governments of seculars who do give away land, and who do themselves support it (ie Rav Ovadia).   But the rank and file haredim often go along with the rabbis, but talk to some of them and see if they think it's a good thing.  Most don't, unless you are talking to Naturei Karta or a Satmar (only some Satmar).   In fact, many cite it as yet another reason why the evil zionist state is so evil - they threw all those Jews out.   They probably think their "leaders" and rabbis are powerless to oppose it so they don't blame their traitorous parties for going along.
You are largely correct. There is a big difference between "rank and file" Haredim and hardcore NK/Satmar enemies of their own people. The average Haredim just go along with whatever their rebbes and political leaders say, but are not necessarily hardcore about it by any means. With a potent right-wing voice in Israel, I am sure that no small number of them, particularly in the younger generations, would ditch Shas/Agudah and join Hayamin.

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Re: "2 State Solution IS the Solution"?
« Reply #27 on: October 03, 2008, 11:58:14 AM »
If by 2 state solution they mean that Israel remains a Jewish state and the Palestinians leave and go to one of the many Arab states, then yes.
Agree with you 99%!  The 1% in disagreement is the fact that there are no "Palestinians"....  ahistorical.  Predicated on a lie.   ;D

  Come ON!!! PLEASE!!!! I dont trust ANY dang politician.. cut her a break, bla bla bla... NO! Hold that statement ACCOUNTABLE! 2 states.... TWO STATES!!!! America- TWO Americas??!!! 2 AMERICAS?!? Ok, lets give up WY for some PEACE, how bout Jersey.. She should have BLASTED them ALL to kingdom COME. 1. Obama IS A MOSLEM. 2. REZKO 3. Ayers 4. His CHRISTIAN friends that say that Israel is the devil 5. DIST 13 on the southside of CHICAGO 6. his voting record 7. Your birth cert-

   WHY WAS NONE OF THIS ADDRESSED?!?!?
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Re: "2 State Solution IS the Solution"?
« Reply #28 on: October 03, 2008, 12:01:56 PM »
I wonder what Chaim will say.

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Re: "2 State Solution IS the Solution"?
« Reply #29 on: October 03, 2008, 12:54:35 PM »
There is hope and then there is fact.  Sadly the facts don't predict hope but something more akin to a modern Hannukah :dance:
"‘Vehorashtem/Numbers 33:53’: When you burn out the Land’s inhabitants, you will merit to bestow upon your children the Land as an inheritance. If you do not burn them out, then even if you conquer the Land, you will not merit to allot it to your children as an inheritance." - Ovadiah ben Yacov Sforno; Italian Rabbi, Biblical Commentator, Philosopher and Physician.  1475-1550.

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Re: "2 State Solution IS the Solution"?
« Reply #30 on: October 03, 2008, 03:04:06 PM »
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Re: "2 State Solution IS the Solution"?
« Reply #31 on: October 05, 2008, 12:32:24 PM »
She would be supported only because she is the best choice and the best option and nothing else.
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