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What did Hitler (ym"sh) do first? What is Obama doing now?
« on: October 06, 2008, 08:52:42 PM »
I have been vocally opposing comparisons between Hitler and Obama for reasons that should be obvious.  So why am I making a comparison now?  Because I think that Hitler used a technique that Obama is using now, and it is very effective.  And we should recognize it for what it is:  pandering.

Hitler was elected primarily because he was able to convince his electorate what they wanted to believe in the first place, namely, that they were the victims of larger forces.  He convinced them that the economy was in ruin because of the treaty of Versailles, or that they were the victims of communists and Jews.  In sum, Hitler convinced the German people that none of the hardships they faced were their own fault.  It is very tempting to believe such a proposition.

Obama is doing the same thing today.  The economy, according to him, is in ruin today because of systematized inequity.  Capitalism is the problem, he says.  Unfairness is the problem.  He will make things fair.  He will establish a new system where one does not have to persevere to be rewarded.  His minnions are very tempted by this.

The bottom line is that both Hitler and Obama are speaking to those who have an ingrained sense of self-entitlement.  It is a very dangerous thing.

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Re: What did Hitler (ym"sh) do first? What is Obama doing now?
« Reply #1 on: October 06, 2008, 09:02:05 PM »
of course he's like Hitler.  Hitler did not become popular because he wasn't charismatic himself.  i saw footage of Obama, one live shot w/sound, after another, and it has the tone of a DICTATOR.  he always says, "no no no, you weren't listening to me!"  who speaks to people like that?  it takes him at least 3 attempts to get his message out with all the stammering, stuttering, hammering, before you can understand what he's said.  furthermore, he is a LIAR and fills the American public's feeble minds with propaganda, distortions, and his attacks on McCain, Palin, even advising ACORN to humiliate, intimidate, manipulate (as in the followings of Saul Alinsky,) bank presidents, until they gave NINJA loans.  like Hitler, with his Hollywood smile, Obama's, ability to deliver a speech with a teleprompter, but what about when he isn't using one....he hollers at the American public for problems he and his cronies created and then gains the trust of the American public.  by telling the American public how terrible our country is, what he does is break it down, then with the mantra "change," reconstructs it into a socialist, Marxist, Communist, society.   
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Re: What did Hitler (ym"sh) do first? What is Obama doing now?
« Reply #2 on: October 06, 2008, 09:06:49 PM »
Please go to http://www.faithfreedom.org/obama.html
and read, 'The Making of the Fuehrer' by ex-Muslim (and campaigner against Islam), Ali Sini of the FaithFreedom website.

I think this gives the best incite into Obama's psychological illness
(yes, illness) and his co-dependents. The article is long, but well worth the read.

Here is an excerpt: (the remarks in red parenthesis are mine)



"..when the narcissist is criticized, his followers become offended. They take those criticisms personally and their instinct of self defense is triggered. They will become vigilantes and will silence their critics through intimidation, bullying, mocking, threats and violence (like calling those who disagree with Obama, racists). " (Haven't we all been subjected to this when we have dared to speak up against Omama?)

"When you fall for someone to the extent that Obama’s followers have fallen for him, you surrender your reason and individuality to him willingly. When millions of people surrender their hearts and their minds to one person the result can be catastrophic. This is what happened in Germany with Hitler, in China with Mao, in the Soviet Union with Stalin, in Cuba with Castro, in Iran .."





His majesty condescendingly looks down at his scullions
An unequivocal expression of delusional gradiosity


(Narcissistic pathological disease) "..it shows in the posture and the way the narcissist walks and talks. Obama's posture, exudes haughtiness.



Compare his posture to those of Hitler, Stalin and Saddam.

One determining factor in the development narcissistic pathological disease is childhood abuse. “Obama's early life was decidedly chaotic and replete with traumatic and mentally bruising dislocations..”

".. his support of legislation to let babies die if they survive abortion, gives a glimps into his soul, that he may lacks empathy"

"..Is arrogant, has haughty behaviors or attitudes coupled with rage when frustrated, contradicted, or confronted .." (witness his behavior during last debate. You could see rage in his eyes. Constantly interruping McCain, smirking, disrespecting the senior senator by calling him 'John')


"Feels grandiose and self-important (e.g., exaggerates achievements and talents to the point of lying, demands to be recognized as superior without commensurate achievements) " (witness his numerous lies http://tedmathis.blogspot.com/2008/0...t-of-lies.html)

"- Displays false modesty and unctuous "folksiness" but is unable to sustain these behaviors (the persona, or mask) for long. It slips and the true Obama is revealed: haughty, aloof, distant, and disdainful of simple folk and their lives." (witness his bitter small town folks clinging to guns and religion.etc..
Also remember his vulgar displays of 'giving the finger' to Hillary and 'playing up his assets' to female reporter.)






The mask slips and the true Obama is revealed...
When angry, his eyes reveal his soul


Obama, too, sublimates aggression. .

They create a personality cult around themselves and with their blazing speeches elevated their admirers’ souls, fill their hearts with enthusiasm and instill in their minds a new zest for life. They give them hope! They promise them the moon, but alas, invariably they bring them to their doom. When you are a victim of a cult of personality, you don't know it until it it too late.

Narcissists have only one issue. They want power and will do and say anything to get it. Their words mean nothing to them. They do not intend to keep them. They look into your eyes and swear on a stack of Bibles that they are not going to do something when that is exactly what they intend to do. They break their promises when it suits them and annul their treaties when they can get away with it. They lie, and lie, and lie, and lie, and lie, and lie, and lie, and lie, and lie, and lie, and lie, and lie, and lie, and lie. (witness his unbelievable flip flops on the Iraq war, his numerous lies..).

Radical left winger, Obama, is the least experienced of all the Democrats. His political views are the most foolish of them all. He opposed the surge in Iraq saying it will make the situation worse and he was wrong. He thinks the solution to terrorism is to sit with terrorist states without precondition and negotiate with them. When Russia invaded Georgia, all this genius did was to urge both sides to "exert restraint". Everything this man has said so far reveals his ignorance in economical, political and military matters. [/b]
Despite that, this junior senator has managed to rally the seasoned senators of the Democratic Party around himself and, not withstanding his ineptitude, he has emerged as the leader de facto of his party and their presidential candidate. The emergence of so many cults in America is proof that America is not an exception to the norm. If demagogue narcissists, like Jim Jones, David Koresh or Jimmy Swaggart can find a fertile ground in America, why not one with a political message?


He creates a cult of personality. His admirers become his co-dependents.
Anyone can be fooled by narcissists. Just as experienced and smart senators of the Democratic Party have surrendered to the charisma of Obama, a man who is inferior to them all in every sense; many members of the media also have fallen for his charm hook, line and sinker. The American media is soft on Obama, but extremely harsh and deceitfully unfair on Governor Palin. In reality, he is nobody. And yet, thanks to his overbearing display of authority, the very mask that he is wearing to hide his devalued and injured self, he has overwhelmed all the giants of the Democratic party. Cults are full of smart people who have been hoodwinked by ally sick needy people.[/b]

"With some people I cannot even talk about Obama. They cannot tolerate any criticism of him. They (Obama fans) get angry and, not only they want to end the conversation but threaten to end the friendship. I am familiar with this kind of religious devotion to a person. The reaction that I get from Obama worshippers is similar to that of Muslims when their prophet is criticized. They are even prone to insult you."

See how they overlook Obama's blatant lies and are willing to forgive his major sins such as racism. Note how the mainstream media bends the rules, twists the facts, exaggerates Obama’s little virtues, absolves his sins, and even lies to sell him to the public. Compare the royal treatment that the liberal press has given to Obama to how unfairly they treat Governor Palin; how they smear her character and belittle her experience and achievement. ABC’s Charlie Gibson’s interview with Governor Palin was a stain on journalistic integrity. Is it more important that Palin has not traveled the world and has not shaken hands with heads of states, or the fact that Obama has lied so many times? Under what pretext should an ordinary citizen visit heads of foreign states? The question itself is preposterous!"


How can smart people let themselves be manipulated by a psychopath to such an extent that they become quasi zombies? Recall what the smart Germans did under the spell of Hitler. Bear in mind what the Soviets did under the influence of Stalin. Consider what the Japanese did during WWII when they believed in the divinity of their emperor. Evoke how the Chinese Red Guard massacred millions of their own countrymen when they were blinded by their love for Mao and his faux notion of equality. Look at the Islamic terrorists. Can’t we say the same about them? Isn’t Islamic savagery the result of Muslims’ uncritical devotion to a long deceased narcissist? If you don't know what I am talking about, I invite you to read my book, Understanding Muhammad. When sane people fall for the lies of an insane man, they act insanely. (this explains a lot-how Obama fans can ignore his lies, his flip flops his terrorist associations and insult and attack anyone who would speak up against him)

The Sick Symbiosis

Narcissists need their narcissistic supply to fuel their narcissism. They get it through adulation from people around them. These people are often also needy people. They are known as co-dependants. The narcissist and his co-dependent therefore, form a sick symbiosis in which both benefit. The masses of people have no first hand knowledge of the narcissist, but they jump on the bandwagon thanks to a very human trait, misnomered as “herd mentality.” They reason, how can so many people can be wro,ng and satisfied by this fallacy blindly join the cult of personality worship.(now, I know)



When criticized, Obama's soul can be seen in his eyes.

"They take those criticisms personally and their instinct of self defense is triggered. They will become vigilantes and will silence their critics through intimidation, bullying, mocking, threats and violence (like calling those who disagree with Obama, racists). " (witness how those daring to speak up against Obama are abused. Witness Obama's goon squads threatening Rebuplican TV ads in Missouri, witness goon squad attacks on the NRA, witness hacking of Republican websites, witness physical attacks on people with anti-Obama signs and tee shirts)



Narcissists are amoral. They consider themselves to be above the law. Once in power, they will try to strengthen their hold by surrounding themselves with equally amoral people.
(Witness Obama's stable of terrorists such as Bill Ayers, Muslim activists/America haters/racists such as Wright, and Farrakhan. He will surround himself with this sort if elected!)


"America is at a crucial moment in its history. I cannot think of any disaster greater than putting a pathological narcissist in control of the world’s most powerful military machine. "


"This election is like no other in the history of America. The issues are insignificant compared to what is at stake. What can be more dangerous than having a man bereft of conscience, a serial liar, and one who cannot distinguish his fantasies from reality as the leader of the free world?

There is no insanity greater than electing a pathological narcissist as president."




Please go to http://www.faithfreedom.org/obama.html and read the original article. It has many links that didn't post here when I copied part of the article.

To sign the petition; http://www.petitiononline.com/obamapet/petition.html


I hope you will take the time to read this article. I know it is long, but it does get very, very interesting.
It is a plausable explaination for the insanity that is the Obama-nation.

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Re: What did Hitler (ym"sh) do first? What is Obama doing now?
« Reply #3 on: October 06, 2008, 09:15:05 PM »
oh my Cyberella, i haven't read your whole post yet....the photos of him, he looks so angry, but what you said here:

"I think this gives the best incite into Obama's psychological illness
(yes, illness) and his co-dependents. The article is long, but well worth the read."

I was thinking about this after watching Hannity's America last night, and how Sean Hannity connected ALL THE DOTS, and omitted nothing about this individual, I realized he is mentally ill.  He becomes more and more arrogant by the day, if that's possible, he is totally maniacal, narcissistic, and just power hungry.  Will keep reading your post.  Thank you for educating us.   

ETA:  Cyberella, your link states:

"When you fall for someone to the extent that Obama’s followers have fallen for him, you surrender your reason and individuality to him willingly. When millions of people surrender their hearts and their minds to one person the result can be catastrophic. This is what happened in Germany with Hitler, in China with Mao, in the Soviet Union with Stalin, in Cuba with Castro, in Iran .."

last night, a friend said a cousin of the family met Obama and was in "heaven." 

ETA:  "How can smart people let themselves be manipulated by a psychopath to such an extent that they become quasi zombies? Recall what the smart Germans did under the spell of Hitler."


FRIGHTENING BEYOND BELIEF.  PSYCHOPATH IS THE WORD THAT DESCRIBES BOTH HITLER AND OBAMA.  his followers are zombies, cult-like like the little kids, ages 5-12, in that hideous off tune singing chant, "Obama, Obama, Obama."


LOOK AT THE PHOTOS.  NOT NORMAL.  TERRIFYING.

I am going to cry from all this.
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Re: What did Hitler (ym"sh) do first? What is Obama doing now?
« Reply #4 on: October 06, 2008, 09:22:57 PM »
WWOD = WWHD
Infidels fighting Obamazombies and Islamazombies in the wastelands of the former United States.

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« Reply #5 on: October 06, 2008, 09:25:51 PM »
I have a good pic for this but it is to bad

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Re: What did Hitler (ym"sh) do first? What is Obama doing now?
« Reply #6 on: October 06, 2008, 09:27:07 PM »
Obama is just like Hitler he is the silver tongue beast

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Re: What did Hitler (ym"sh) do first? What is Obama doing now?
« Reply #7 on: October 06, 2008, 09:33:47 PM »
Please!  I am not saying that Obama is just like Hitler!  I am saying that they share this particular technique of persuasion.

Do not misinterpret me.

If I were to liken Obama to any leader in history it would be Stalin, not Hitler. 


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Re: What did Hitler (ym"sh) do first? What is Obama doing now?
« Reply #8 on: October 06, 2008, 09:35:40 PM »
Please!  I am not saying that Obama is just like Hitler!  I am saying that they share this particular technique of persuasion.

Do not misinterpret me.

If I were to liken Obama to any leader in history it would be Stalin, not Hitler. 



How would he be more like Stalin then Hitler?

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Re: What did Hitler (ym"sh) do first? What is Obama doing now?
« Reply #9 on: October 06, 2008, 09:43:29 PM »
Lets hope that Obama's ideology isnt ever realized.   Lets pray that Obama never gets the kind of power that Hitler had.


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« Reply #10 on: October 06, 2008, 09:50:13 PM »
For starters, Stalin and Obama share an absolute belief in collectivism.  If Obama wins, I don't think there will be a holocaust, but there will probably be five year plans, forced famines, and political purges.  Arguably, Stalin admired his own image more than Hitler did.  Obama loves his own image.  Stalin was backwards thinking in terms of technology, whereas Hitler was not.  Obama is also backwards thinking technologically, as he thinks that the "environmental crisis" can be solved by a reversion to previous technology.  (I forget where I read that, so please don't ask me to cite it, but if my memory serves me, it is true).

Obama, like Stalin, will first eliminate those members of society who contribute the most.  And he will redistribute their wealth.

I'll post more examples when I can think of them, but this is a start.

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Re: What did Hitler (ym"sh) do first? What is Obama doing now?
« Reply #11 on: October 06, 2008, 10:02:20 PM »
WWOD = WWHD

What does this mean please Shamgar.  I am new here.  TIA.

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« Reply #12 on: October 06, 2008, 10:03:03 PM »
WWOD = WWHD

What does this mean please Shamgar.  I am new here.  TIA.

Jaime

What would Obama do = What would Hitler do

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Re: What did Hitler (ym"sh) do first? What is Obama doing now?
« Reply #13 on: October 06, 2008, 10:09:34 PM »
Lets hope that Obama's ideology isnt ever realized.   Lets pray that Obama never gets the kind of power that Hitler had.



prayer is what is necessary.  thank you Briann, always the voice of reason.  you were right in your prediction last week about McCain's stategy.  i am praying for Sarah Palin, John McCain, the safety of our country, for all people on this forum and the other forum i go to, and all people of the world.  that is what we must do.  thank you again.

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« Reply #14 on: October 06, 2008, 10:10:26 PM »
I have a good pic for this but it is to bad

pretty please? :)

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« Reply #15 on: October 06, 2008, 10:11:11 PM »
I have a good pic for this but it is to bad

pretty please? :)

I dont know if the pic would be allowed

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« Reply #16 on: October 06, 2008, 10:19:28 PM »
For starters, Stalin and Obama share an absolute belief in collectivism.  If Obama wins, I don't think there will be a holocaust, but there will probably be five year plans, forced famines, and political purges.  Arguably, Stalin admired his own image more than Hitler did.  Obama loves his own image.  Stalin was backwards thinking in terms of technology, whereas Hitler was not.  Obama is also backwards thinking technologically, as he thinks that the "environmental crisis" can be solved by a reversion to previous technology.  (I forget where I read that, so please don't ask me to cite it, but if my memory serves me, it is true).

Obama, like Stalin, will first eliminate those members of society who contribute the most.  And he will redistribute their wealth.

I'll post more examples when I can think of them, but this is a start.

good start.  keep going.  "And he will redistribute their wealth"  we will be standing in bread lines, like in the Great Depression.  he will decide who gets to keep their wealth and who will not.  i keep hearing, twice now, the same figure:  $13 trillion, in off shore banks and in Russia.  people don't want to pay taxes.  this guy is going to implement a death tax and a million other taxes, so we are paying 75% of our income, to taxes, for more "rescue" bills, after his **** ups.  this is sickening.  McCain has got to win.  what Obama's team has done is with propaganda, create apathy among Republicans, so we do not vote.  Nov. 4th, we must go to the polls. Today, absentee ballots in Ohio were rejected, because "a box was not checked," ON EVERY SINGLE BALLOT????!!!  Obama is psychotic and there is a petition that needs to be submitted to Congress. 

http://www.petitiononline.com/obamapet/petition.html

we need a petition to remove Barney Frank, that moron.  do you know, that as long as i was a child, he was a politician, where i grew up in Massachusetts?  and Pelosi, she needs to be kicked to the curb.

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Re: What did Hitler (ym"sh) do first? What is Obama doing now?
« Reply #17 on: October 06, 2008, 10:24:04 PM »
I have a good pic for this but it is to bad

pretty please? :)

I dont know if the pic would be allowed. 




is he naked or something? LOL......wouldn't the moderators just delete it?  or worse, 86? :'(