rubeystars :
"I believe in many ways culture proceeds from race, though individuals can always make a different choice. I wouldn't be who I am today if I weren't part of the white race and didn't have the heritage I hold. Maybe I wouldn't be as interested in science for example if I didn't have ancestors that came from a nation with many scientists."
what race ? "whites" are no diffrent "race" , slavonic people come from a ancient nation called riphat in hebrew , and vivendi in greek ... used to live in asia minor untill they left for europe ... scandinevians are from a nation we call ashkenaz , and the assyrians knew them as "askusa" . they came from the van and don rivers whom their early tribes lived near in ancient times
huns , scythians ... they come from mesopotamia , subartu ... they are closer to black people's culture as sumerians then what you would call white people ...
geogrigians come from a people called meshek , which actually originated mainly in the caucsus
all this people's who are "white" come's from various cultures and places , and are not of the same branch of people ,
would you say that the spartans were greek ?
spartans , did not saw themselves as greeks , but as people of avraham ... sons of ketura
italians ?
its a nation we called in ancient times "Irum" , which originate from esav !!!! , they mixed with the tyranus people , the same nation whom from came the palestines ... and formed the roman people ...
spanish ? .... they are phonicians who build a land called tharshish in southern spain ... they called it shpania , which later changed to modern word spain ...the basq people are another branch of tyanus people , whom are mainly called by modern scholars as "sea peoples"
not everything is what it seems , and if you'll explore the actuall history of each and every white culture you will see they all come from diffrent places ...
and even if you consider all whites to be a race , is that mean that black people and chienese are diffrent somehow ?
all people come from noah ... this is my belive ... i'm not darwinistic and i dont belive there are human races ... there is genetic links ... indeed , that doesn't make you a race ... each family would be a race if that was the case .... all humans look diffrent from one place to another , not because they are diffrent race , but because their enviroment , changed their apearances over time , cold places caused less melanin which caused brighter colours , hot places caused more melanin which caused darker colours .... this is not just what science think , its the same thing written in jewish sources , knowlege given by g-d .... all peoples look diffrent from place to place because the the diffrent enviroment from place to place
so to me, the only thing defining what you call "Race" , is their seperate cultures and particularities .
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"Not necessarily. I consider myself an American and I don't agree with a lot of things in American culture of the last several decades, but I'm still proud to be an American."
americans did not have one single culture , they had few cultrues which fougth each other , and one won ...
and inside america there are millions of diffrent cultures ... because its made of percentages of other people's who came to live togheter .... i'm not speaking about country's here , but of nationality , culture of a group of people
would you say being an "American" is a nationality on its own ?
isn't every group of people in america call it self "italian american "/" irish american " , etc ?
this is the way it is precived outside usa , just letting you know heh
can you say someone is "italian german" for instance ?
i dont think so , its two diffrent nationalities...
"I think I understand where you're coming from, but I think condemning an entire ethnicity for the actions that happened within a very short span of time during that nation's history is wrong too."
really ? .... in that short span of time , all their nation was determined to annihilate jews ...and they killed more jews then all jews ever killed on history ... and during this short span of time they did not changed their mind even once , they tried to kill jews for a "short span of time" , because thats the time which took them to be defeated , if it was up to them , they would've wanted to continue killing jews untill there were no jews .
the build up wasn't in that short span of time , but many many years ..as well .
" I mean nobody likes it when Jewish people as a whole are blamed for someone like George Soros. Does he make you less proud to be Jewish? He shouldn't, he's an evil man with an agenda that is hurting a lot of people, but he doesn't represent Jewish people as a whole."
i donno who he is , but whatever , you cannot compare indevidual acts , to an act done by a complete majority of an entire nation
they all were nazi's , not just hitler .
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"What about the Germans who hid Jews during the Holocaust or helped them escape, and were subsequently punished for it? Are they righteous Gentiles even if they were, for example, Catholics?"
like i already said in the former message
"i cannot say that there were no good german people , but there weren't enough , not by a long shot .... "
if those catholics saved jewish kids only to raise them christians (like some did !) , they were not rightoes to me , if they did it to save jews , then yes , they were rightues in that act
i dont deny that there were good germans , i'm just saying ... they were not even a minority , if your talking in numbers , they almost didn't exist , compare to the size of the whole german nation residing in germany in those days .
so because of some good arabs , we should stop hating al qaida ?
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