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Kindergarten sex ed becoming mandatory in England
« on: October 23, 2008, 02:38:53 PM »
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081023/ap_on_re_eu/eu_britain_sex_ed
LONDON – It's a controversial idea in a land known for prudishness about sex — teaching kids as young as 5 about the birds and bees.

But with one of the highest teen pregnancy rates in Europe, the British government is bringing sex education to all schools in England — including kindergartens.

While countries like France, Holland and China already require sex education, few places demand that it be introduced at such a young age.

"It's vital that this information doesn't come from playground rumor or the mixed messages from the media about sex," Schools Minister Jim Knight said Thursday, announcing that sex ed would be added to the national curriculum.

English schools now are required to teach basic lessons on reproduction as part of the science curriculum. Northern Ireland, Scotland and Wales have separate education departments and standards. Only Scotland makes sex education voluntary.

The government hasn't detailed what the new curriculum will look like, but schools will be asked to provide lessons on relationships and contraception, topics not previously required. Lessons will become more sophisticated as kids get older.

Elementary schools can offer lessons in naming body parts, preparing for puberty and relationship feelings, Knight said.

For the very young, sex ed will mainly be about self-awareness, he said.

"We are not talking about 5-year-old kids being taught sex," he said. "What we're talking about for key stage 1 (ages 5-7) is children knowing about themselves, their differences, their friendships and how to manage their feelings."

But not everyone feels the state should decide when and how to broach the topic.

"I am not the parent who calls her son's penis a wee-wee. But I should decide if the word penis enters my child's vocabulary at 5 or not," said Elizabeth Talbot of London, who has two sons, aged 4 and 6 months old.

The government said children over 11 — the age at which kids generally go to secondary school in England — could learn how to develop respectful relationships and how risky sexual behavior contributes to the spread of sexually transmitted diseases and unplanned pregnancies.

Britain has among the highest teen pregnancy rates in Europe, with government figures showing that about 39,000 girls between ages 15 and 17 became pregnant in 2006, the year for which the most recent figures are available. An additional 7,200 girls between the ages of 13 and 14 were reported pregnant the same year.

Yet the country has long been considered more prudish and reserved than its continental neighbors.

"Everybody has sex at some point or other in their lives ... (but) we're not willing to prepare them," said Gill Frances, who served as part of a group that advised lawmakers on the new sex ed policy.

French students get sex ed in middle and high schools. Norwegian students typically get mandatory sex education around age 15. The topic is not mandatory but left up to principals and teachers in Italy.

In Finland, at age 11 or 12 children in school are taught about reproduction but sexual health and human relations begins between age 14 or 15. The Finish children's watchdog, the Mannerheim League for Child Welfare, last month proposed distributing free condoms to ninth graders (16 year olds) in schools to the stop spread of sexually transmitted diseases; education authorities rejected it.

In the United States, which lacks a national curriculum, the decision to offer sex education is left to individual states and districts. In recent years, the federal government has funded programs promoting sexual abstinence. The abstinence programs are favored by religious conservatives.

The topic has even made it into the presidential election campaign.

John McCain accused Barack Obama of being bad for families, saying he supports sex education for kindergartners. The legislation that Obama supported in the Illinois Senate would have required information deemed age appropriate, and Obama has said that meant warning young children about sexual predators.

In China, students generally begin sex education in middle school, but the curriculum is basic. In India, where more than 2.5 million people are infected with the AIDS virus, basic sex education has been offered in schools since the late 1980's. However, six of India's largest states banned the basic programs, saying they would corrupt the young.

Peru is implementing a pilot program this year in 146 schools that begins lessons on sexual reproduction at age 11 and on birth control at 14. It will be adopted nationwide next year.

"Statutory (sex ed) is absolutely crucial in reducing teenage pregnancy, particularly for vulnerable young people, but all children and young people need equipping with the skills and knowledge to help manage their lives," said Frances, chairman of the Teenage Pregnancy Independent Advisory Group.

Supporters of the government's plan for England say they hope the lessons give kids information they need.

"When parents fail to educate their kids properly, the government has every right to step in," said Gayla Coil, a Londoner and mother to two kids ages 13 and 10. "Me, I welcome the help."

Knight said teachers would get training and that schools would "ensure there is flexibility for schools to tailor lessons to reflect the values and beliefs of the parents and communities they serve." Schools will be expected to implement the curriculum by 2010.

Teachers will likely have mixed feelings about the change, said Nansi Ellis, head of education policy for a teachers union.

"Some teachers will be uncomfortable with teaching this to very young children," she said. "But it's a really important part of children learning. Learning isn't just about academic achievements but the development of the whole person."

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Re: Kindergarten sex ed becoming mandatory in England
« Reply #1 on: October 23, 2008, 02:40:16 PM »
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Re: Kindergarten sex ed becoming mandatory in England
« Reply #2 on: October 23, 2008, 02:57:19 PM »
John McCain accused Barack Obama of being bad for families, saying he supports sex education for kindergartners. The legislation that Obama supported in the Illinois Senate would have required information deemed age appropriate, and Obama has said that meant warning young children about sexual predators.

Uh huh.  Then in Sen. Obama's sex ed from ages 5-12 yrs. why are the words "pleasure" and " masturbation" used if this sex ed covers "sexual predators."  I have heard this repeatedly.  He just glides over it and says, "it's age appropriate."  How are those words ever age appropriate when it comes to teaching sex ed.  Did William Ayers help him with this screwed up teaching tool >:(

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Re: Kindergarten sex ed becoming mandatory in England
« Reply #3 on: October 23, 2008, 03:07:14 PM »
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081023/ap_on_re_eu/eu_britain_sex_ed
LONDON – It's a controversial idea in a land known for prudishness about sex — teaching kids as young as 5 about the birds and bees.

But with one of the highest teen pregnancy rates in Europe, the British government is bringing sex education to all schools in England — including kindergartens.

While countries like France, Holland and China already require sex education, few places demand that it be introduced at such a young age.

"It's vital that this information doesn't come from playground rumor or the mixed messages from the media about sex," Schools Minister Jim Knight said Thursday, announcing that sex ed would be added to the national curriculum.

English schools now are required to teach basic lessons on reproduction as part of the science curriculum. Northern Ireland, Scotland and Wales have separate education departments and standards. Only Scotland makes sex education voluntary.

The government hasn't detailed what the new curriculum will look like, but schools will be asked to provide lessons on relationships and contraception, topics not previously required. Lessons will become more sophisticated as kids get older.

Elementary schools can offer lessons in naming body parts, preparing for puberty and relationship feelings, Knight said.

For the very young, sex ed will mainly be about self-awareness, he said.

"We are not talking about 5-year-old kids being taught sex," he said. "What we're talking about for key stage 1 (ages 5-7) is children knowing about themselves, their differences, their friendships and how to manage their feelings."

But not everyone feels the state should decide when and how to broach the topic.

"I am not the parent who calls her son's penis a wee-wee. But I should decide if the word penis enters my child's vocabulary at 5 or not," said Elizabeth Talbot of London, who has two sons, aged 4 and 6 months old.

The government said children over 11 — the age at which kids generally go to secondary school in England — could learn how to develop respectful relationships and how risky sexual behavior contributes to the spread of sexually transmitted diseases and unplanned pregnancies.

Britain has among the highest teen pregnancy rates in Europe, with government figures showing that about 39,000 girls between ages 15 and 17 became pregnant in 2006, the year for which the most recent figures are available. An additional 7,200 girls between the ages of 13 and 14 were reported pregnant the same year.

Yet the country has long been considered more prudish and reserved than its continental neighbors.

"Everybody has sex at some point or other in their lives ... (but) we're not willing to prepare them," said Gill Frances, who served as part of a group that advised lawmakers on the new sex ed policy.

French students get sex ed in middle and high schools. Norwegian students typically get mandatory sex education around age 15. The topic is not mandatory but left up to principals and teachers in Italy.

In Finland, at age 11 or 12 children in school are taught about reproduction but sexual health and human relations begins between age 14 or 15. The Finish children's watchdog, the Mannerheim League for Child Welfare, last month proposed distributing free condoms to ninth graders (16 year olds) in schools to the stop spread of sexually transmitted diseases; education authorities rejected it.

In the United States, which lacks a national curriculum, the decision to offer sex education is left to individual states and districts. In recent years, the federal government has funded programs promoting sexual abstinence. The abstinence programs are favored by religious conservatives.

The topic has even made it into the presidential election campaign.

John McCain accused Barack Obama of being bad for families, saying he supports sex education for kindergartners. The legislation that Obama supported in the Illinois Senate would have required information deemed age appropriate, and Obama has said that meant warning young children about sexual predators.

In China, students generally begin sex education in middle school, but the curriculum is basic. In India, where more than 2.5 million people are infected with the AIDS virus, basic sex education has been offered in schools since the late 1980's. However, six of India's largest states banned the basic programs, saying they would corrupt the young.

Peru is implementing a pilot program this year in 146 schools that begins lessons on sexual reproduction at age 11 and on birth control at 14. It will be adopted nationwide next year.

"Statutory (sex ed) is absolutely crucial in reducing teenage pregnancy, particularly for vulnerable young people, but all children and young people need equipping with the skills and knowledge to help manage their lives," said Frances, chairman of the Teenage Pregnancy Independent Advisory Group.

Supporters of the government's plan for England say they hope the lessons give kids information they need.

"When parents fail to educate their kids properly, the government has every right to step in," said Gayla Coil, a Londoner and mother to two kids ages 13 and 10. "Me, I welcome the help."

Knight said teachers would get training and that schools would "ensure there is flexibility for schools to tailor lessons to reflect the values and beliefs of the parents and communities they serve." Schools will be expected to implement the curriculum by 2010.

Teachers will likely have mixed feelings about the change, said Nansi Ellis, head of education policy for a teachers union.

"Some teachers will be uncomfortable with teaching this to very young children," she said. "But it's a really important part of children learning. Learning isn't just about academic achievements but the development of the whole person."

I mean..if they are teaching it to 5 year olds (and they shouldn't), it depends on how they are teaching sex ed.  If it means they teach it like, "Your mommy and daddy  made you and you came out of your mommy's tummy", then I'm fine with that...but really, it shoudl be the parents that do the teaching and not the schools...especially in 5 yr olds.
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Re: Kindergarten sex ed becoming mandatory in England
« Reply #4 on: October 23, 2008, 03:30:44 PM »
Referring to Obama, he sees an opportunity to seize upon the fact that Mommies are out working 3 jobs to keep food on the table and shelter above their heads, so Mommies are happy to leave schools to take over this task for them.  Daddies, are often not in the picture, having taken off and/or don't know they have children, i.e., are sperm donors, or the mothers have chosen not to tell the Daddies they have children or the children are products of divorced parents. 

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Re: Kindergarten sex ed becoming mandatory in England
« Reply #5 on: October 23, 2008, 03:34:40 PM »
Shalom,

This is sickness on the rise. Here in California the Gays want to teach homosexual sex-education in the schools and to teach it to pre-schoolers. This is nothing short of indoctrinating the children with wickedness. I recommend all who can do it to homeschool your children because the children who will come out of American schools will be damaged irreparably.

Obama, his perverted mentor Franklin Davis {homosexual pervert}, and his corrupt friend Bill Ayers have a crooked plan for Americas populace. They want to make us just another socialist country and remove the American spirit from amongst us.

I suggest we do anything, everything, to resist this evil tide.

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Re: Kindergarten sex ed becoming mandatory in England
« Reply #6 on: October 23, 2008, 03:37:27 PM »
I mean..if they are teaching it to 5 year olds (and they shouldn't), it depends on how they are teaching sex ed.  If it means they teach it like, "Your mommy and daddy  made you and you came out of your mommy's tummy", then I'm fine with that...but really, it shoudl be the parents that do the teaching and not the schools...especially in 5 yr olds.

Some little kid will say "Mommy said God made me!" Then the kid will get into trouble for mixing church and state (kids have gotten in trouble for reading the Bible during free reading time and praying at lunch too).