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Is the Moreh Nevuchim heretical?
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--- Quote from: muman613 on November 05, 2008, 03:42:58 PM ---<snip>
Does anyone know why there is a question about RAMBAMS belief in the Techiyah HaMatim? Is this principle not the last of the 13 principles of RAMBAM?
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Yes, somebody can see a question regarding it.
Techiyas Hamaysim is The Resurrection of the Dead
The question would probably be why he also says that the messianic redemption will be natural and not to expect miracles. (this is a controversial statement)
one answer may be that there are 2 parts to the redemption, a natural and a miraculous.
muman613:
--- Quote from: q_q_ on November 05, 2008, 04:04:46 PM ---
--- Quote from: muman613 on November 05, 2008, 03:42:58 PM ---<snip>
Does anyone know why there is a question about RAMBAMS belief in the Techiyah HaMatim? Is this principle not the last of the 13 principles of RAMBAM?
<snip>
--- End quote ---
Yes, somebody can see a question regarding it.
Techiyas Hamaysim is The Resurrection of the Dead
The question would probably be why he also says that the messianic redemption will be natural and not to expect miracles. (this is a controversial statement)
one answer may be that there are 2 parts to the redemption, a natural and a miraculous.
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Shalom,
Thank you... I am looking at some material which describes this issue.
muman613
q_q_:
--- Quote from: muman613 on November 05, 2008, 04:14:16 PM ---
--- Quote from: q_q_ on November 05, 2008, 04:04:46 PM ---
--- Quote from: muman613 on November 05, 2008, 03:42:58 PM ---<snip>
Does anyone know why there is a question about RAMBAMS belief in the Techiyah HaMatim? Is this principle not the last of the 13 principles of RAMBAM?
<snip>
--- End quote ---
Yes, somebody can see a question regarding it.
Techiyas Hamaysim is The Resurrection of the Dead
The question would probably be why he also says that the messianic redemption will be natural and not to expect miracles. (this is a controversial statement)
one answer may be that there are 2 parts to the redemption, a natural and a miraculous.
--- End quote ---
Shalom,
Thank you... I am looking at some material which describes this issue.
muman613
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perhaps one explanation , and this is one I thought of..
The RAMBAM thought of the resurrection of the dead as a spiritual one, that way it would appear natural physically. But described poetically in tenach as if it were physically miraculous - dry bones e.t.c..
the 2 stages explanation is a common explanation, but it's probably completely read in.
If you can get hold of this Sefer by the RAMBAM, it may help, so at least one is faimilar with more sources. I haven't read this one. It's called Ma'amar Techiyas HaMeisim . I don't know if my suggested explanation on the RAMBAM's belief would hold up against that, but it might, and it's not really read in.. But I have my doubts that the 2 stage explanation would, 'cos if it was in there people would just say it was not a possible explanation, but 'the' explanation.
Apparently it puts away any question as to whether the RAMBAM believed in it.
Obviously there is no question that the RAMBAM believed in the resurrection of the dead. There is a question though as to the nature of his belief in it..
Kahane-Was-Right BT:
No, the Moreh Nevuchim is not heretical.
Tzvi Ben Roshel1:
Its not good to read, unless its shown to a heritic, I hear its not good for a normal person (and it wasn't intended- It was intended for the "Perplexed", so if your not, then dont go into philosophy, simple Emuna a is great).
Also besides that, some Talmidim have gone into heresy from the book from studying themselves, then a Rav had to correct them on it.
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