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Great new shiur from Rav Bar Hayim
galileerat:
Chaim Clorfene's book on the Third Temple is well worth reading.
wonga66:
Does R.Bar Chayim's view about ascending the Temple Mount today differ from R.Eliyashiv's? http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1119724.html
Or do current exegencies and the Chillul/Kiddush Hashem of the Jewish right to ascend the Har Habayis today transcend even Halachah?!
Kahane-Was-Right BT:
--- Quote from: wonga66 on October 08, 2009, 10:40:21 AM ---Or do ... Jewish right to ascend the Har Habayis today transcend even Halachah?!
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What halacha exactly? Can you point out which one?
Yes I believe it is highly likely that Rav Bar Hayim's opinion differs from that of Rav Eliyashiv on this issue, but I honestly have never asked him so I don't know what his position is. I only say it is likely because the Manhigut Yehudit group often organizes trips up to Temple Mount (with appropriate preparations, mikveh etc beforehand), and I know that they consult with Rav Bar Hayim among others for their Torah positions. That being said, they may not always do according to Rav Bar Hayim's opinions, so it's not a great proof.
But the Haredi position has always been that it is 'assur' to go onto Temple mount. I have not seen a good explanation for the reasoning behind that, in light of the rather good explanations given by the opposing side that argues it is permitted, nor does the article you cited give any reasoning behind Rabbi Eliyashiv's opinion. They only quoted the soundbite that fits their agenda. But there have always been other Torah authorities, some National religious rabbis, and some haredi rabbis, who have differed in their opinion and have given good reasons that it is NOT forbidden. So why are you so quick to say it's "the halacha" ? Let's see if you can point out in what way it is the halacha or what halacha you are relating it to. You can't necessarily guess at what Rav Eliyashiv's reasoning is, but since you are so convinced, I assume you have some other information not available to us. So please share.
wonga66:
A formal request has been made to R.Bar Chayim as to his opinion, so let's see if he posts it up on his "Ask the Rav" page http://machonshilo.org/en/index.php
Kahane-Was-Right BT:
--- Quote from: wonga66 on October 08, 2009, 05:09:56 PM ---A formal request has been made to R.Bar Chayim as to his opinion, so let's see if he posts it up on his "Ask the Rav" page http://machonshilo.org/en/index.php
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Excellent, I almost made a request to the Rav, myself... Kol Hakavod.
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