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should we support Guiliani?

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Offline Dr. Dan

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should we support Guiliani?
« on: November 16, 2008, 11:30:47 PM »
Apparantly he's looking aheadh as well. I guess anyone will be better than Obama...
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Re: should we support Guiliani?
« Reply #1 on: November 16, 2008, 11:33:43 PM »
for what? Gov of NY or Mayor of NYC - Yes!
Definitely NOT for President

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Re: should we support Guiliani?
« Reply #2 on: November 16, 2008, 11:37:27 PM »
I'd support him. I think he could have beaten Hussein Despite his Liberal views on Abortion and Gun Control.
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Re: should we support Guiliani?
« Reply #3 on: November 16, 2008, 11:38:48 PM »
president, not the first choice if huckabee is more popular or even palin..However, he did clean up nyc after dave dinkins.  He may be able to clean up the USA after Obama messes it up (Gd forbid)..and I hope Obama doesn't mess up this country and instead proves everyone here in JTF wrong..I would prefer a more prosperous, stronger, more patriotic USA under any president.
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Re: should we support Guiliani?
« Reply #4 on: November 17, 2008, 12:00:52 AM »
Anybody but Palin.

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Re: should we support Guiliani?
« Reply #5 on: November 17, 2008, 12:39:16 AM »
Anybody but Palin.

What do you not like about her. We know you hate weman
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Re: should we support Guiliani?
« Reply #6 on: November 17, 2008, 12:53:13 AM »
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Rudy Giuliani has zero chance of getting the Republican presidential nomination in 2012.

Republicans learned a very harsh lesson with John McCain. Millions of conservatives, evangelicals and other longtime Republicans did not bother to vote. Most Republicans now understand that the only shot they have of winning next time is if they nominate a real conservative. Otherwise the conservative base voters will stay home.

That's why polls show Republicans and conservatives overwhelmingly supporting Governor Sarah Palin.

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Re: should we support Guiliani?
« Reply #7 on: November 17, 2008, 01:18:25 AM »
Don't know what you mean about supporting him in what, but for Gov yes if it means getting Paterson out.

For Senator if it means getting Hillary or Schumer out then yes

For Pres no.. I am for Palin 100 percent
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Re: should we support Guiliani?
« Reply #8 on: November 17, 2008, 06:30:05 AM »
Don't know what you mean about supporting him in what, but for Gov yes if it means getting Paterson out.

For Senator if it means getting Hillary or Schumer out then yes

For Pres no.. I am for Palin 100 percent
Patterson is a TERRIBLE Govenor!
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Re: should we support Guiliani?
« Reply #9 on: November 17, 2008, 07:34:04 AM »
For Gov. of New York- Yes.  President- No.  He had his hot and he ran a terrible campaign toward the end.

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Re: should we support Guiliani?
« Reply #10 on: November 17, 2008, 07:44:42 AM »
Scriabin imagine Palin was a man. What would be your problem with "Mr. Palin" if "he" held all the same political positions and had the same number of kids, etc.? I think it'd be easier for me to respect your opposition to Palin if I knew it was based on more than just "women shouldn't be president".

As for Giuliani I don't think I could support someone that's so left wing. He supports murder of babies in the womb. He supports gay marriage and was in gay pride parades. He is a part-time DRAG QUEEN. How can a drag queen meet with foreign leaders? Plus on a personal note I don't like Giuliani because he wouldn't let people have ferrets.


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Re: should we support Guiliani?
« Reply #11 on: November 17, 2008, 09:48:23 AM »
Anybody but Palin.
What do you not like about her.

She was selected to be McCain's VP simply because she's a 'she'.

That does not make her qualified to run the country, however.

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Re: should we support Guiliani?
« Reply #13 on: November 17, 2008, 11:40:18 AM »
Anybody but Palin.
What do you not like about her.

She was selected to be McCain's VP simply because she's a 'she'.

That does not make her qualified to run the country, however.

How do you konw he chose her just because she's a she?  Do you have super powers that you can ready McCain's mind?
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Re: should we support Guiliani?
« Reply #14 on: November 17, 2008, 02:14:27 PM »
I saw some recent analysis in a serious blog (I don't remember where it was, but I'll try to find the link) which said that Sarah Palin is pro-immigration. That is she becomes a president, she will do exactly the same thing as McCain - give amnesty to tens of millions of illegals. This claim about her was based on her interviews and her answers to direct questions about illegal immigrants.

Now, in my book, this is one of the most serious accusation. It is #2 after being anti-Israel. It might even have the same priority, depending how you look at it.

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Re: should we support Guiliani?
« Reply #15 on: November 17, 2008, 03:16:10 PM »
I think Guiliani is best suited as a third term mayor of NYC or governor of NY
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Re: should we support Guiliani?
« Reply #16 on: November 17, 2008, 03:16:25 PM »
I won't support him simply for the fact he was the one responsible for disarming NYC.

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Re: should we support Guiliani?
« Reply #17 on: November 17, 2008, 04:50:19 PM »
for what? Gov of NY or Mayor of NYC - Yes!
Definitely NOT for President

Why? I like Rudy.

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Re: should we support Guiliani?
« Reply #18 on: November 17, 2008, 05:53:41 PM »
Outside of New York, Guiliani doesn't sell to most Republicans.

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Re: should we support Guiliani?
« Reply #19 on: November 17, 2008, 07:16:48 PM »
Outside of New York, Guiliani doesn't sell to most Republicans.

I am in Los Angles and I support Rudy.

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Re: should we support Guiliani?
« Reply #20 on: November 17, 2008, 07:17:53 PM »
As a whole my friend, as a whole.

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Re: should we support Guiliani?
« Reply #21 on: November 17, 2008, 07:19:23 PM »
Hello,

There are several reasons I dont like Guiliani. His social agenda is not conservative, his treatment of his ex-wife was very suspect. It appeared to me he was at the right place at the right time {mayor of NYC during 9/11} and made political use of the tragedy. I really dont know why he is so popular.

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Re: should we support Guiliani?
« Reply #22 on: November 17, 2008, 07:25:49 PM »
It did always seem that he used 9/11 to his political advantage. 

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Re: should we support Guiliani?
« Reply #23 on: November 17, 2008, 08:15:28 PM »
Hello,

There are several reasons I dont like Guiliani. His social agenda is not conservative, his treatment of his ex-wife was very suspect. It appeared to me he was at the right place at the right time {mayor of NYC during 9/11} and made political use of the tragedy. I really dont know why he is so popular.

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i'll tell you why...He was a breath of fresh air from David Dinkins who let animals from the zoo free to roam.  Guiliani put them back in their cages.
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Re: should we support Guiliani?
« Reply #24 on: November 18, 2008, 01:45:45 AM »
Maybe Rudy Giuliani could clean up America after they get their taste of David Dinkins times 10,000
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