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Accepting the Torah, But Remaining a Gentile
q_q_:
--- Quote from: DownwithIslam on December 21, 2008, 10:58:06 AM ---Ok, just no more personal attacks. Lets forget this happened.
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ok,
but there are still certain facts you should see without just forgetting the conditions that form reality.
For whatever reasons, There are discussions that I could have with , say, KahaneBT, that I can't have with you or muman. You can think of it as a personality clash if you like.
DownwithIslam:
--- Quote from: q_q_ on December 21, 2008, 11:01:42 AM ---
--- Quote from: DownwithIslam on December 21, 2008, 10:58:06 AM ---Ok, just no more personal attacks. Lets forget this happened.
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ok,
but there are still certain facts you should see without just forgetting the conditions that form reality.
For whatever reasons, There are discussions that I could have with , say, KahaneBT, that I can't have with you or muman. You can think of it as a personality clash if you like.
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Thats probably because he agrees with you more. The real accomplishment is to be able to hold back insults when you are dealing with people who dont agree with you on some issues. You are forgetting that we agree on many things as well.
Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks:
--- Quote from: muman613 on December 21, 2008, 03:12:43 AM ---In all honesty Chabad is not truly Zionistic like you envision. My point is that all of Chassidus is not zionistic by our definition.
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In practice they certainly are, and that is what matters much more than every facet of HaRav Schneerson's doctrine.
Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks:
--- Quote from: q_q_ on December 21, 2008, 10:50:21 AM ---There are many discussions i've had with you in the past where i've gone straight into serious discussions, and the way you responded was very very bad.. Talk about unhealthy, you were like a cancer to the forum, destroying all healthy dialogue. That was about a year ago.
At least here between us there is no really serious discussion to be destroyed by you.
Believe me, there is less havok here than in previous encounters.
Take my suggestion, and if you have a question, which I said, was an intellectual issue. I told you, i'm not the person to explain it to you. Don't ask me. And as I very quickly unravelled, you weren't exactly asking me what a religious zionist was anyway, and the answer didn't matter to you either. Which is what I told you already long ago.
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And I recall about six months back how you posted about four pages' worth of posts of apology for the Neturei Karta (yimach schmam vezichram). Granted, DownwithIslam and I aren't great, esteemed, rational, intellectual Torah Scholars such as yourself (btw, what rabbinical school have you received your smicha from?), but that does tend to affect your credibility and rationality in the sense of the eyes of most forum members here.
But DWI asked you an extremely simple question, and the fact that you wouldn't, or couldn't, answer it leads me to question just how "scholarly" and "logical" you really are.
Tzvi Ben Roshel1:
--- Quote from: C.F. on December 21, 2008, 12:31:47 PM ---
--- Quote from: q_q_ on December 21, 2008, 10:50:21 AM ---There are many discussions i've had with you in the past where i've gone straight into serious discussions, and the way you responded was very very bad.. Talk about unhealthy, you were like a cancer to the forum, destroying all healthy dialogue. That was about a year ago.
At least here between us there is no really serious discussion to be destroyed by you.
Believe me, there is less havok here than in previous encounters.
Take my suggestion, and if you have a question, which I said, was an intellectual issue. I told you, i'm not the person to explain it to you. Don't ask me. And as I very quickly unravelled, you weren't exactly asking me what a religious zionist was anyway, and the answer didn't matter to you either. Which is what I told you already long ago.
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But DWI asked you an extremely simple question, and the fact that you wouldn't, or couldn't, answer it leads me to question just how "scholarly" and "logical" you really are.
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You have no buisness in that type of discussion. And dwi gets emotional about every issue.
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