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muman613:
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I am hearing you...
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It's about bloody time.. I've told you almost a dozen times in previous threads.
The difference here is that this time you took notice, asked for a source, looked around, and found a YU shiur..
Why is that? Did you have an extra cup of coffee?
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q_q_,
Why is it? It is because I am always looking for the truth. Just because I have investigated this issue doesn't mean I agree with you fully in your understanding. I just understand that there are things which are permitted and things which are not. I will be more careful in what I explain.
In a forum where the audience is expected to be mostly Jews then I am permitted to delve into deeper sources than just the Chumash. When the audience is mostly non-Jewish then I should only talk about Pshat which is the simple understanding of the material. I believe I understand this now. For that I thank you.
But I hope you don't use this against me in any way. You do receive some 'reward' for rebuking me and getting me to learn. I do respect a teacher but I also have problems with the way you come across to me sometimes. For instance your comment "Did you have an extra cup of coffee". I am not your adversary and sometimes I feel like you want to continue an adversarial relationship with me.
Thank you,
Tzvi Ben Roshel1:
Watch the video " Amazing New Movie IN ENGLISH" from- http://www.torahanytime.com/Rabbi/Yossi_Mizrachi/ (second to last video). And qq it is allowed.
Tzvi Ben Roshel1:
Also -HZ- maybe you would like to take a look at this channel-
http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=F47B1048EA6EFF6B
Playlist: Obligations of the Nations
q_q_:
--- Quote from: Tzvi Ben Roshel on December 20, 2008, 10:32:40 PM ---Watch the video " Amazing New Movie IN ENGLISH" from- http://www.torahanytime.com/Rabbi/Yossi_Mizrachi/ (second to last video). And qq it is allowed.
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It is not teaching Torah to gentiles..
That is proselytizing - probably not halachically forbidden, jews did it 2000 years ago, and we got christianity for our trouble(and alot of dead jews because of it. It took christians 2000 years to become domesticated). And that's how we got islam too. (so maybe all the damage has been done already, there isn't much chance we'll be getting another one.. though maybe it was punishment proselytizing . On the plus side we may get complete noachides but remember christianity and islam )
Anyhow..Rabbi Mizrachi is not proselytizing either. You said yourself that the christian he debated was a missionary knocking on doors e.t.c.
That video you linked to there is FOR JEWS. (to tell jews that judaism is true and other religions are wrong)
If you are showing that to gentiles..
That is telling christians and gentiles of other religions that there religion is wrong.. That is bashing christianity and islam and the rest..
That is not what JTF is about.. And infact it's not what any organisation that touches other rleigions is about.
You shouldn't bash them in bad times because it makes things more dangerous.
And you shouldn't bash them in good times because you are rewarding good with bad..
Tzvi Ben Roshel1:
qq- no. This particular person (Hindu Zionist) is asking to learn about Judaism. And where to start.
If you have the time look at this short clip bringing sources - About Jews incouraging the nations to keep the 7 laws (also about NOT discouraging converts, teaching those who ask and want to get closer to G-d.) - Material mainly from the Rambam.
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