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Spiraling Leopard:
I live in the Hague and want to do something productive against the islamisation in Europe.

I like the Jewish Defence League ideas of giving self defence classes. Non muslims need to wake up and prepare themselves. Western people have fallen asleep and the muslim dar al harb mentality is walking all over them. I see this as the main problem. Doing martial arts is a good way of getting a better attitude, one which will eventually render the ummah useless.
So if more non muslims become more militant in attitude, islam will cease to grow and learn to shut up and behave.
This will not stop the takfir wal hijira's of course, but it is essential to stop the islamisation and the ummah in Europe which is attacked by social jihad and taqqiyah.

I do not know whether JTF is linked to the Jewish Defence League, but if so, it might be a good idea to officially start the JDL in Holland again. I think there is only 1 synagoge left in the Hague and I don't think the visitors get attacked, but I wouldn't might accompanying them.

I tried putting some amature selfdefence groups up via MSN some years ago by contacting Jews, but they just weren't interested.

I generally promote Martial arts, Qi Gong, Visualisation exercises and Meditation to grow a strong mind and body to render the ummah useless. I think these are essential to get more brain activation and get a more awake worldview.

If there is any JTF/JDL activity in the Netherlands, let me know.

q_q_:
unfortunately kahanist groups are quite fragmented , I think JTF is the most authentic decent one..

The JDL lost its way at one point, rabbi kahane said so himself even during his lifetime.  Because an organization that promotes a head with a fist, can attract people that have a fist and no head, purely violent people. (or people that agree, but have neither).

there are no practical things going on..

my personal view is that jews if they want to learn any fighting art , can, if they learn it in a non-jewish establishment, and learn the jewish principles elsewhere. It doesn't -have- to be taught simultaneously. sitill, it brought people togeher. Nothing like that is being done at the moment. There are self defence classes taught in synagogues, but not kahanist ones.

And most oriental martial arts teach a philosophy of running away anyway.
There is more of a future in MMA

A sane person in control of an army can render the ummah useless.  One doesn't need to be that -awake- to see the muslim threat. One just needs to not be blind.  Many are blind.. I think they need a psychiatrist, though they'd have to admit they have a problem.

Ambiorix:
Welkom RobertX9!

Lisa:
Welcome to JTF.

Zelhar:
Welcome Robert.

I don't think that street fighting is the preferable way to deal with the Islamic invaders in Europe and elsewhere. What is needed is the realization and acknowledgement of the Islamic threat and the resolution to ban Islam as an murderous evil ideology  not unlike Nazism, and of course deport all those who practice Islam back to their respective countries of origins.

But of course self defense is a very good skill to learn and you are probably correct that it may help to change the mentality of the people (Or may be only people with the right mentality are interested in learning martial arts ??).

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