I would like your thoughts on my JTF logo agenda

[takebackourtemple]

MasterWolf1,

   Displaying the cross is an issue that JTF tries to avoid. While we respect and want Christian support. We also want you to practice your religion but we are still a Jewish group and have a different interpretation of the second commandment.
   The merged flags is a good image, but is complex for a logo. Israel and the US also need to be solidary nations which are free of each others control. Merging the flags implies that they are one. I think it is better to have them side by side.
   Thanks for posting the images.

TakeBackOurTemple

[nessuno]

Take Back Our Temple,  Thank You for that explanation of why displaying the cross is an issue that the JTF tries to avoid.  I was feeling a little offended as I am a Christian.
I could somewhat understand why the JTF would feel as it does.  Yet I didn't like the way it was just dismissed by some as inappropriate.  Your explanation was very helpful in my understanding of how JTF feels.

[MasterWolf1]

Well I was working on that to be kind of a chip of the JTF website Fighting to save America and Israel from Islamic terrorism! They are still solidary nations but they do have the common goal. What I can do with the 2 flags if we put the Kahanist fist infront right in the center to show that it is also for Kahanists.

I been working for several days on one idea and I might show David when I get a chance to I may just Email him but I really came up with something rather interesting it is not over doing but direct to the point

[MasterWolf1]

And they are a solidarity nation but the idea of them fighting for the same cause is where I am getting at that we have the common goal of Kahanist Jews in Israel Kahanist Chrisitans in the U.S And that both nations are our fight and struggle.

[kahaneloyalist]

I agree with Jabo, the logo should NOT incorporate non-Jewish flags and symbols. The very concept of a Jewish org using a Cross, the symbol under which millions of Jews were murdered, is completely unacceptable.

The US and Israel are not both of my countries, only Israel. I feel gratitude to the US for how kind they have been to the Jews and I truly wish for the US to prosper, and while in the US the Torah commands I serve her, so long as she doesnt turn on the Jews. But it is not my country or the country of any Jew, we have one people and one country.

[MasterWolf1]

OK we can forget the cross idea but how about the image I have with the center with the Kahanist fist? And the WWW.JTF.ORG and the motto in the back?

[takebackourtemple]

OK we can forget the cross idea but how about the image I have with the center with the Kahanist fist? And the WWW.JTF.ORG and the motto in the back?

   I like it.

[Christian Zionist]

I am a Christian but I do not like putting a cross in the JTF logo. JTF is JEWISH task force.  Therefore let the symbols be only Jewish!

While many Jewish organizations hate Christians, JTF reaches out to Christians despite our Theological differences.  That itself is a great thing.    JTF is already coming out of the way to work with Christians. So let us not insist putting a cross in the logo.

[Trumpeldor]

OK we can forget the cross idea but how about the image I have with the center with the Kahanist fist? And the WWW.JTF.ORG and the motto in the back?

Do we need really need our motto on the logo? A logo is supposed to be visual.

If we end up using both flags (which I oppose) and the fist, isn't that worth 1000 words?

[MasterWolf1]

Well the motto is Chaims words at the end of each show of "In your heart you know we are right and in your guts you know they are nuts".  And the motto can be put on the back of the shirt or sweatshirts and as far as the posters and other items of that nature that can be without the motto.  And in large letterings WWW.JTF.ORG under the logo it can be as you are advertising the website on your clothing.