"BTW, the church has had to rethink their position since jews got a state, because it attacks their theology of a new nation of israel through them. But I don't think that the vatican denies that there is a state of israel. I think they accept it, they don't oppose its existance. They are just pro palestinian - probably wanting a 2 state solution."
No they actually responded to a group of Rabbis (I think Rabbi Mizrachi included- he is the one who said this) on the question of the prophecy (actually outside of the gospels, but part of the church teachings for centuries) that the Jews will never return to the Land of Israel because they rejected yeshu. The Rabbis said, but look now the Jews did return in large numbers to the Holy Land. The church responded- we do not recognize the state of Israel
Lets speak the truth- they want Israel destroyed.
who of the church responded..
For example.
(I have a link but don't want to advertise it here, I will PM you if you'd like).
A religious jewish group, wrote to the Vatican asking them to resolve certain contradictions. They wrote a latter back referring the jewish group to one of their scholars. Remember, the vatican is meant to be infallible.
The scholar of theirs said that the gospels have contradictions.
NOW.. The Pope would have NEVER said that!!
What it shows (this is the argument in that article anyway!) is a problem with believing that the vatican is infallible. From a realistic perspective it's not really a statement from the vatican! Theologically perhaps it is. He with his infallibility referred them to the scholar whose answer is or would be good with him.
I think that represents the article I read, it was a while back that I read it.
Do you think the vatican wants genocide of jews? I wouldn't say that.
I hate to tell you, but some and perhaps all anti-zionists (not NK) wish the state of israel never existed, but now that it does, they deal with it. Because it won't go away, and they don't want jews murdered.