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Offline Spectator

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Who are White Serbs and Sorbs?
« on: February 10, 2009, 11:59:29 AM »
There is a people in South-East Germany that's called White Serbs. I also heard of the name Sorbs, is it the same as "White Serbs"?

Are these groups considered a part of the Serbian people today?
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Re: Who are White Serbs and Sorbs?
« Reply #1 on: February 10, 2009, 12:41:22 PM »
porhaps ur thinking about "Luzicki Srbi",dunno
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Re: Who are White Serbs and Sorbs?
« Reply #2 on: February 10, 2009, 03:48:14 PM »
It is known that before Serbs came to Balkans they lived in today's Germany and Poland.They were known as "White Serbs" and just next to them "White Croats" lived(just like today where we are).
Their country was known as "White Serbia"(Bela Srbija) and on their west there was "White Croatia"(Bela Hrvatska).For example,Czar of Frankony(Frankonia) built the wall toward Serbian Czarhood and he called it "Limitus Sorbicus"("limitus"=border,"sorbicus"=I don't have to explain ;-) )

Small remaining part of Serbian people left there today is known as "Luzicki Srbi" or in German language "Lausitzer Sorben"(http://www.sorben.de/).Today they have more similarities with Polish and German people then with us.They mixed with Baltic,German nations and Polish people,while we(current Serbs on south,Balkans) have certain influence of Vlahs,Illyrians and Romanians.

They call lands where they live like "Serbja"(Serbya) wich is the same semantic root as "Serbiya".Serbs before 20th century pronounced the name of our country like that-"Serbiya".

"Sorbs" is one of the variates for current modern name of the Serbs,probably the oldest one...and it could be the "original",as our current language is "spoiled" because of mixing up with other nations and influence of their languages.

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Re: Who are White Serbs and Sorbs?
« Reply #3 on: February 10, 2009, 03:56:27 PM »
I don't know exactly, but clear is, that the sorbs are speaking as mother-language a slaw language like the Serbs. They are mostly very conservative, like the Poles.

I think they understand Serbian language and the most of them will understand English as well, so ask them  :)

http://interserb.de/
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Re: Who are White Serbs and Sorbs?
« Reply #4 on: February 13, 2009, 12:29:59 AM »
On Wikipedia about:
1.White Serbs http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Serbs
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2.White Serbia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Serbia
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Re: Who are White Serbs and Sorbs?
« Reply #5 on: February 15, 2009, 04:12:27 AM »
Thanks for information!
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Re: Who are White Serbs and Sorbs?
« Reply #6 on: February 15, 2009, 09:42:06 AM »
That's true they're the last western Slavic people who survived the German colonisation of East Germany, it's Shame that Stalin was adamant to punish Poland for 1920 war and not gave us Luzyce after WWII. They're catholic unlike Saxon Germans.
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Re: Who are White Serbs and Sorbs?
« Reply #7 on: February 15, 2009, 10:01:14 AM »
Quote from: Ultra Requete on February 15, 2009, 09:42:06 AM
That's true they're the last western Slavic people who survived the German colonisation of East Germany, it's Shame that Stalin was adamant to punish Poland for 1920 war and not gave us Luzyce after WWII. They're catholic unlike Saxon Germans.

True, they are.

But I think they should decide for themselves. This is not a decision of Poles and Russians, but of Sorbs.  8)
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