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Did you read the Torah?
Kahane-Was-Right BT:
It is important to be precise and correct with words especially when talking about Judaism.
The One and Only Mo:
--- Quote from: muman613 on January 23, 2009, 04:40:06 AM ---
--- Quote from: Mo2388 on January 23, 2009, 03:58:40 AM ---by Torah you mean the Written Law? Because you can't learn the Written without the Oral and vice versa.
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One can read the written Torah without learning the Oral law. It is advisable for a Jew to learn the Oral Torah because it explains a lot of the ideas of the written Torah. It is well known that ideas such as tefillin and mezuza are not fully explained in the written Torah, only mentioned briefly. Torah is composed of more than just the Five Books {Chumash}. Torah includes all Jewish teaching which includes the entire canon of Jewish scripture.
Tanakh is the term used to describe the Torah, Naviim {Prophets} and Ketuvim {Writings}. Even though we call the Oral law Oral, much of it has been written and we call it the Mishna, the Gemmorah, and the Talmud.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tanakh
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Are you sure man? Cause Torah Sheba'l Peh was given at Sinai also.
Kahane-Was-Right BT:
--- Quote from: muman613 on January 23, 2009, 04:40:06 AM ---
One can read the written Torah without learning the Oral law.
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Well, technically one is physically able to "read" it, but it is practically impossible for a Jew to actually learn the Torah and follow it without the oral law and commentaries which explain our traditions.
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Even though we call the Oral law Oral, much of it has been written and we call it the Mishna, the Gemmorah, and the Talmud.
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But it was Oral before the sages wrote it down at a later date. For many generations it was passed down as an oral tradition in one form or another, constantly developing and evolving. And it was originally given in some form at Sinai with the written Torah. That was how we had a tradition of the proper way to do mitzvoth which are not explained entirely in detail in the written Torah. At a later time, around the end of the Tannaic era, the sages feared people would forget it (due to exile and destruction of the Temple) and so they committed it to writing. Originally it was actually forbidden to write down... And over time more and more discussion developed and there was machloketh amongst the chachamim over certain rulings.
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Muman, you also made a massive mistake in the next post you wrote, where a key definition in one paragraph just doesn't fit into the other.
I suggest to you that it's preferable if you just copy and paste, it's not really fair if people end up writing more than you wrote just to unravel or fix what you wrote.
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