Author Topic: My friends are calling me a racist extremist because of my Obama hate (Read 3623 times)

The One and Only Mo · « **on:** January 23, 2009, 03:21:04 AM »

yeah so I've been posting a lot of anti-Obama stuff on facebook and 70 percent of my friends think I'm some sort of Nazi. Granted they are very left-wing, but I can't believe I actually associate with people who don't see things the same way I do. My own mom likes Obama, and I showed her JTF stuff, but she thinks JTF is extreme. How can I put up with all this insolence and ignorance without looking like a member of the KKK?

muman613 · « **Reply #1 on:** January 23, 2009, 03:28:28 AM »

I am lucky that none of my immediate family voted for the Obamanation. But my advice to you is to not get angry at them when they don't quite get it. I believe that as time goes by they will eventually see the truth. In the meantime present them with the facts. If they are Jewish you can show them Rabbi Kahane who was very charismatic and able to explain the facts in a very convincing manner. I have faced the same kind of aversion when I tell people I have Kahanist leanings. We are not racists because the issue is not race, it is simply what is best for this country and for Israel and world Jewry.

Do not hate Obama in your heart. Hate is self-destructive. it is the reason I left the demoncrat party. I could not stand the irrational hatred of GW Bush {who I did actively hate for almost 3 years}. What an intelligent and wises person will do is consider all the options and act in a manner which will change things. Do not alienate your friends who may be able to assist you in the future.

The One and Only Mo · « **Reply #2 on:** January 23, 2009, 03:31:03 AM »

So should I stop spreading JTF stuff on facebook?

eb22 · « **Reply #3 on:** January 23, 2009, 03:38:22 AM »

Mo2388, a suggestion I have is to give your Mom the opportunity to listen to the commentary that Chaim ( and David ) provided in a number of JTF videos. Along with some of the Ask JTF programs. The more of the JTF content one is able to absorb ( this doesn't apply to evil people ), the greater the chance that person will develop an appreciation for the righteous goals and objectives JTF is trying to accomplish.

The One and Only Mo · « **Reply #4 on:** January 23, 2009, 03:41:00 AM »

my Mom's not the big issue, although I appreciate your advice. It's more my friends and acquaintances criticizing me every time I post something right-wing on facebook.

Ulli · « **Reply #5 on:** January 23, 2009, 03:45:41 AM »

Mo, I think in the first line you should not internalize the defamation. The leftist use this in order to win the political debate. It is only a tactic.

Leftists are in the most cases the most racist people ever. Their whole ideology is about race.

Look they catagorize people in different groups according to their race and treat them different.

WE all know the system of affirmative action. If they quote MLK they lie, because we all know what they do specially on the Universities.

Leftists also believe that certain groups odf people are not or not fully responsible for their deeds.

Leftist think also, that it is racist to criticice their black politicians. Makes this sense?

And my last point: WHY IS OBAMA BLACK? He is as white as he is black. Why is he defining himself as a black man? My suggestion is, that he wanted the political and social advantage because Jews and white Christians feel guilty towards this group.

Obama is a man like all other too. Look how the leftists attacked i.e. George Bush. It was really hard.

We have the right to attack Barak "I am a Socialist" Obama (as well as a Muzzie lover), as hard as the evil leftists did to Bush. This is rational and guilt belongs not in the political competition.

P.S.: If it would be about who suffered more in history, Jews would win every competion. So don't internalize this silly accusations.

IsraelForever · « **Reply #6 on:** January 23, 2009, 03:49:49 AM »

Quote from: Mo2388

my Mom's not the big issue, although I appreciate your advice. It's more my friends and acquaintances criticizing me every time I post something right-wing on facebook.

Which goes to prove how fascistic these Left-wingers are. I've lost a lot of so-called "friends", too. You can either hide your true beliefs and keep these "friends", or you can be true to yourself and find new and better friends.

eb22 · « **Reply #7 on:** January 23, 2009, 03:50:07 AM »

One thing you can consider doing if you haven't already is start a Zoo Tube or Liveleak page, promoting anti- Barack Hussein Obama videos and info. At the same time promoting JTF and other righteous causes and/ or people. One of my primary focuses on Zoo Tube is to promote Sarah Palin, in addition to supporting JTF, and opposing Obamination.

You can use a nickname that your friends will never know about. By no means I'm I suggesting that you should eliminate your anti- Obama Facebook efforts totally. By spending less time with that though and more time with promoting JTF / anti- Obama stuff elsewhere, it will lessen the tension with your friends. And you still will be helping spread righteous messages and info.

The One and Only Mo · « **Reply #8 on:** January 23, 2009, 03:53:04 AM »

Thanks a lot guys, points taken. In the mean time if any of you have facebook and would like to give me some assistance against some guy who is three times my age and has degrees (i have none yet) along with a few other people criticizing the JTF stuff I posted, send me a private message. Thanks.

q_q_ · « **Reply #9 on:** January 23, 2009, 04:42:40 AM »

Quote from: Mo2388 on January 23, 2009, 03:53:04 AM

Thanks a lot guys, points taken. In the mean time if any of you have facebook and would like to give me some assistance against some guy who is three times my age and has degrees (i have none yet) along with a few other people criticizing the JTF stuff I posted, send me a private message. Thanks.

just ask yourself if they or the people they stand with, accept their standard themselves

ask them if the people that spoke against sarah palin were racist extremists too - racists against white people?

or you could say that it has nothing to do with skin colour for you, since if Alan Keyes (JTF is in favour of him), ran, then JTF would support him.

Infact, Obama's "old" "church" was racist against white people! and against america. so they are either against racism, or they are for racism. But they should be consistent. He was still supported and got as far as he did when he was a member.

Ulli · « **Reply #10 on:** January 23, 2009, 05:02:30 AM »

Quote from: q_q_ on January 23, 2009, 04:42:40 AM

Quote from: Mo2388 on January 23, 2009, 03:53:04 AM
Thanks a lot guys, points taken. In the mean time if any of you have facebook and would like to give me some assistance against some guy who is three times my age and has degrees (i have none yet) along with a few other people criticizing the JTF stuff I posted, send me a private message. Thanks.

just ask yourself if they or the people they stand with, accept their standard themselves

ask them if the people that spoke against sarah palin were racist extremists too - racists against white people?

or you could say that it has nothing to do with skin colour for you, since if Alan Keyes (JTF is in favour of him), ran, then JTF would support him.

Infact, Obama's "old" "church" was racist against white people! and against america. so they are either against racism, or they are for racism. But they should be consistent. He was still supported and got as far as he did when he was a member.

Yes this is true.

mord · « **Reply #11 on:** January 23, 2009, 06:16:40 AM »

Most of my friends think I'm much too moderate,they actually think i'm a civil rights proponent

Dr. Dan · « **Reply #12 on:** January 23, 2009, 06:56:23 AM »

well, that just sounds a bit too extreme, wouldn't you say? you should call them extremists for their extreme judgement of your normal opinion.

AsheDina · « **Reply #13 on:** January 23, 2009, 07:30:17 AM »

Just keep telling the TRUTH. FIVE 5 EXECUTIVE ORDERS in THREE 3 DAYS, that is NOT a president, it is a DICTATOR. People who tell the TRUTH are often seen as extreme, just when you tell it, be calm, DO NOT cave in, and get angry.

AsheDina · « **Reply #14 on:** January 23, 2009, 07:36:13 AM »

This is the TRUTH, and what Briann wrote:

1) set 245 Terrorists on the way to freedom

2) His congressional committee has announced that stimulus money should be limited from going to 'white' males.

3) PROHIBITED WATERBOARDING

4) signed 5 executive orders in the first 3 days of office (more than the last 6 presidents COMBINED!!)

5) given orders to dismantle the CIA terrorist watch overseas.

6) Military cutbacks galore, missle defense systems dismanteled.

7) Moslems placed in high positions by his administration.

8- Called for A two State solution for Israel ....forcing israel to give up land again.

AND THIS IS THE FIRST WEEK OF HIS PRESIDENCY. IF THIS IS THE FIRST THING HE HAS DONE WHAT WORSE IS THERE YET TO COME?

Ulli · « **Reply #15 on:** January 23, 2009, 07:51:28 AM »

Quote from: AsheDina on January 23, 2009, 07:36:13 AM

This is the TRUTH, and what Briann wrote:

1) set 245 Terrorists on the way to freedom

2) His congressional committee has announced that stimulus money should be limited from going to 'white' males.

3) PROHIBITED WATERBOARDING

4) signed 5 executive orders in the first 3 days of office (more than the last 6 presidents COMBINED!!)

5) given orders to dismantle the CIA terrorist watch overseas.

6) Military cutbacks galore, missle defense systems dismanteled.

7) Moslems placed in high positions by his administration.

8- Called for A two State solution for Israel ....forcing israel to give up land again.

AND THIS IS THE FIRST WEEK OF HIS PRESIDENCY. IF THIS IS THE FIRST THING HE HAS DONE WHAT WORSE IS THERE YET TO COME?

If all this is true, I have to apologize to you for trivializing the takeover of this bolschewist muslimloving dictator.

It will be hard times for normal citizens. Perhaps you should invent a black grandmother in order not to be persecuted too hard. No joke, I mean it serious.

Lying to evil people is not prohibited imo. I at least would have no problem with it. Only good people can claim our honesty.

RanterMaximus · « **Reply #16 on:** January 23, 2009, 08:05:02 AM »

We are living in a day and age when telling the truth gets you in trouble and makes you more of a target than the lying crooks who are destroying this great nation. Personally, friends are a waste of time in my book, but if these people are close to you and you care for them, you just need to avoid discussing political and social issues. Being called a racist is nothing more than a juvenile term people throw around because any criticism of blacks in this country is deemed racist. I think down the road more people are going to see Obama for who he really is. When the day comes that a true right wing revolution evolves to save this country, don't be surprised if those friends of yours jump ship with you and praise you for being right.

AsheDina · « **Reply #17 on:** January 23, 2009, 08:15:30 AM »

Maximus, we have to fight the BEASTS with RIGHTEOUSNESS.
Remember this scene?
He yells at the whole crowd, turns the WHOLE empire around, and they LOVE HIM FOR IT. (All while he is in CHAINS)

RanterMaximus · « **Reply #18 on:** January 23, 2009, 08:30:42 AM »

Indeed I do!

AsheDina · « **Reply #19 on:** January 23, 2009, 08:36:38 AM »

Quote from: RanterMaximus on January 23, 2009, 08:30:42 AM

Indeed I do!

I know, thats why what you do in life, echoes in eternity. I havent had any fights on YouTube, but when I do, I'll come and get you... But MO- you will ALWAYS take some heat with unrighteousness for being right.
HASHEM WILL REWARD YOU.

RanterMaximus · « **Reply #20 on:** January 23, 2009, 08:44:38 AM »

It's very hard to debate politics and not get heated, especially when you passionate about your views. But people often get too personal, especially when they are ignorant on the facts. Think of how many people watch shows like The View and get their talking points from that group of pigs. Or just look at network news as a whole. The left's biggest lie is that the right is the political view of hatred and venomous attacks.

zachor_ve_kavod · « **Reply #21 on:** January 23, 2009, 09:37:16 AM »

I've always felt that the invective against blacks by JTF is not helpful. That's not to say that much of JTF's dislike of black culture is wrong. It's just that most people lack the ability to recognize the difference between racism and legitimate criticism of the practices of a certain ethnic group. Chaim is quite right when he says that we're not racists, but it doesn't matter when we are a small political movement aspiring to grow, and we are perceived as racists. So for that reason, my criticism of Obama in my opinions to newspapers or in conversation, has avoided the fact that he is black. I attack his associates, his policies, and what he says. This is more constructive, I think.

Now even doing this does not guarantee that you won't be labelled a racist. In one paragraph that I submitted to the Cincinatti Enquirer, I attacked Obama's policies, his associates, and so on. Some [censored] responded by calling me a racist. So responded back, asking this person who said anything about race? I told him that he was the one who brought up race. I asked him if he was sure (since he brought it up) whether he was a racist. He never responded back.

You have to meet such accusations head on. If you are not a racist (and I'm assuming that you're not), then you can't let such accusations go. Make them explain to you why you are a racist. But again, getting back to my first point, people are not smart enough to recognize the difference between the legitimate criticism of certain cultural tendencies and racism. So personally, when criticizing Obama, I would leave out the fact that he is black.

NRAJ · « **Reply #22 on:** January 23, 2009, 09:45:05 AM »

People will always have to go to the "racist" accusation when you criticize obama because they can't give a good reason they voted for him/it so they have to fabricate a reason why you didn't vote from him/it.

q_q_ · « **Reply #23 on:** January 23, 2009, 10:02:26 AM »

Quote from: zachor_ve_kavod on January 23, 2009, 09:37:16 AM

<snip>Some moron responded by calling me a racist. So responded back, asking this person who said anything about race? <snip> If you are not a racist (and I'm assuming that you're not), then you can't let such accusations go.

good point..

very obvious but nobody here had thought of it for some reason..

Quote from: zachor

Make them explain to you why you are a racist.

prob a good idea.. or as a kind of rhetorical question "what's racist about that.."

could then accuse him of being racist for accusing a white man of being racist for no good reason!

Quote from: zachor_ve_kavod

But again, getting back to my first point, people are not smart enough to recognize the difference between the legitimate criticism of certain cultural tendencies and racism. So personally, when criticizing Obama, I would leave out the fact that he is black.

he's a danger, but I don't think obama is a typical black person in any way anyway. Even when he attended his typical racist black church for 20 years. I've analysed this in the past.

arksis · « **Reply #24 on:** January 23, 2009, 11:25:46 AM »

Funny when the shoe is on the other foot, isn't it? We have friends here we used to get together with all the time and had to put up with Bush bashing and we had to defend him. Since the beginning of the election and now since Obamanation, they have avoided us like the plague! I told my husband, I will NOT keep quiet when or if we get together with them. I really enjoyed sending them all my ammunition against Obamanation before the election. And get this, they are Catholic! Both have been divorced, since then, his wife passed away and she even went as far as having her first marriage annulled! So I sent them the video that was here on Catholics and abortion, thinking THAT would help our cause! I have now told all my friends that if you are Catholic and voted for Obamanation, you are a hypocrite! I have done, and am doing all I can against Obamanation here. Fortunately for me, MOST are as much as against this as we are. I have even seen in some newsgroups, that Obamanation voters are finally seeing the light. But alas, it's too late now.

I would very much like to thank ALL OF YOU for helping me keep my sanity through all of this and I will continue to stand with Israel and all of you against Obamanation. Thanks again, so very very much!