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Are the Albanians descendents of Roma/Gypsies?
« on: February 05, 2009, 03:23:16 PM »
They sure look alike!

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Re: Are the Albanians descendents of Roma/Gypsies?
« Reply #1 on: February 05, 2009, 04:52:07 PM »
They sure look alike!
no,they are tribe who came in europe with turks,old serbs called them horse stealers!
and nowadays they live in tribes like animals,u can't imagine how they are horrible,dirty people without culture!

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Re: Are the Albanians descendents of Roma/Gypsies?
« Reply #2 on: February 05, 2009, 04:55:30 PM »
I think the Roma had originate from India and reached Europe in the middle ages. The name gypsee comes from Egypt because European wrongly assumed they came from Egypt. The Roma themselves did not try to correct this assumption.

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Re: Are the Albanians descendents of Roma/Gypsies?
« Reply #3 on: February 06, 2009, 12:43:34 AM »
No. And they dont look alike. Dont insult romas
« Last Edit: February 06, 2009, 12:54:53 AM by Inquiring Mind »
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Re: Are the Albanians descendents of Roma/Gypsies?
« Reply #4 on: February 06, 2009, 12:46:58 AM »
I think the Roma had originate from India and reached Europe in the middle ages. The name gypsee comes from Egypt because European wrongly assumed they came from Egypt. The Roma themselves did not try to correct this assumption.

Yes, romas are from india and shiptars are from the caucasus, and they dont look alike.
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Re: Are the Albanians descendents of Roma/Gypsies?
« Reply #5 on: February 06, 2009, 01:47:42 AM »
No. And they dont look alike. Dont insult romas

The majority of gypsies are criminals, they are like the Mexicans of Europe but worse.

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Re: Are the Albanians descendents of Roma/Gypsies?
« Reply #6 on: February 06, 2009, 01:56:00 AM »
No. And they dont look alike. Dont insult romas

The majority of gypsies are criminals, they are like the Mexicans of Europe but worse.

They prefer to be called  romas and they are not criminals. Are you a nazi? White Isrealite is a racist sounding username.
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Re: Are the Albanians descendents of Roma/Gypsies?
« Reply #7 on: February 06, 2009, 07:19:26 AM »
   Romas are not criminals, but because of their culture, ppl classify them very very bad!
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Re: Are the Albanians descendents of Roma/Gypsies?
« Reply #8 on: February 06, 2009, 07:57:35 AM »
There are a lot of different people in this bag "gypsies".

Some are settled and didn't differ that much from other Europeans, some are moving and are carnies, some families work since hundreds of years in special professions, like scissors grinder and tinkerer as well as I have heard from a family in Hamburg that is active since decades in metall trade.

So I highly doubt that the "gipsy" exists. I.e. as I went to "confirmation education" there were some gypsies with me. I really didn't realize that they were Gypsies until they told. Nice people. Later in Hamburg I met some. They were really open and friendly people. There were no prejudices or evil behaviour towards anybody.
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Re: Are the Albanians descendents of Roma/Gypsies?
« Reply #9 on: February 08, 2009, 12:06:09 AM »
No. And they dont look alike. Dont insult romas

The majority of gypsies are criminals, they are like the Mexicans of Europe but worse.

They prefer to be called  romas and they are not criminals. Are you a nazi? White Isrealite is a racist sounding username.

You calling me a racist because I identify as white? That's racist to assume I can only be racist because i'm white. I just identify as a white Jew.

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Re: Are the Albanians descendents of Roma/Gypsies?
« Reply #10 on: February 08, 2009, 12:56:39 AM »
No. And they dont look alike. Dont insult romas

The majority of gypsies are criminals, they are like the Mexicans of Europe but worse.

They prefer to be called  romas and they are not criminals. Are you a nazi? White Isrealite is a racist sounding username.

You calling me a racist because I identify as white? That's racist to assume I can only be racist because i'm white. I just identify as a white Jew.

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Re: Are the Albanians descendents of Roma/Gypsies?
« Reply #11 on: February 08, 2009, 01:24:26 AM »
No. And they dont look alike. Dont insult romas

The majority of gypsies are criminals, they are like the Mexicans of Europe but worse.

They prefer to be called  romas and they are not criminals. Are you a nazi? White Isrealite is a racist sounding username.

You calling me a racist because I identify as white? That's racist to assume I can only be racist because i'm white. I just identify as a white Jew.

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White Isreallite sounds so christian identity, but if you are a jew you are a wannabee nazi because nazis will never accept jews as white

I am a white republican Jewish woman and I hate moslems, and I hate those who support the murderous moslems!
My dearest wish is to wake up and find all the Moslems off the face of this earth.
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Re: Are the Albanians descendents of Roma/Gypsies?
« Reply #12 on: February 08, 2009, 01:35:05 AM »
No. And they dont look alike. Dont insult romas

The majority of gypsies are criminals, they are like the Mexicans of Europe but worse.

They prefer to be called  romas and they are not criminals. Are you a nazi? White Isrealite is a racist sounding username.

You calling me a racist because I identify as white? That's racist to assume I can only be racist because i'm white. I just identify as a white Jew.

Ayron??

White Isreallite sounds so christian identity, but if you are a jew you are a wannabee nazi because nazis will never accept jews as white

I am a white republican Jewish woman and I hate moslems, and I hate those who support the murderous moslems!
My dearest wish is to wake up and find all the Moslems off the face of this earth.
If you want an accurate description of radical racism, take a look at Islam.


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Thanks for the welcome, i dont like moselms too
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Re: Are the Albanians descendents of Roma/Gypsies?
« Reply #13 on: February 08, 2009, 06:07:23 AM »
No. And they dont look alike. Dont insult romas

The majority of gypsies are criminals, they are like the Mexicans of Europe but worse.

They prefer to be called  romas and they are not criminals. Are you a nazi? White Isrealite is a racist sounding username.

You calling me a racist because I identify as white? That's racist to assume I can only be racist because i'm white. I just identify as a white Jew.

Ayron??

White Isreallite sounds so christian identity, but if you are a jew you are a wannabee nazi because nazis will never accept jews as white
I'm sorry that you and WI have started interacting so badly, but calling a good jew a NAZI wannabee means you lose the argument.

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Re: Are the Albanians descendents of Roma/Gypsies?
« Reply #14 on: February 08, 2009, 06:50:15 AM »
No. And they dont look alike. Dont insult romas

The majority of gypsies are criminals, they are like the Mexicans of Europe but worse.

They prefer to be called  romas and they are not criminals. Are you a nazi? White Isrealite is a racist sounding username.

You calling me a racist because I identify as white? That's racist to assume I can only be racist because i'm white. I just identify as a white Jew.

Ayron??

White Isreallite sounds so christian identity, but if you are a jew you are a wannabee nazi because nazis will never accept jews as white
I'm sorry that you and WI have started interacting so badly, but calling a good jew a NAZI wannabee means you lose the argument.

I didnt loose the argument, his nazi affinities are obvious, he calls himself white and he disrespects mexicans and calls romas criminals. Im suspect of the people who have white or aryan in their username they are usually nazis
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Re: Are the Albanians descendents of Roma/Gypsies?
« Reply #15 on: February 08, 2009, 11:31:56 AM »
No. And they dont look alike. Dont insult romas

The majority of gypsies are criminals, they are like the Mexicans of Europe but worse.

They prefer to be called  romas and they are not criminals. Are you a nazi? White Isrealite is a racist sounding username.

You calling me a racist because I identify as white? That's racist to assume I can only be racist because i'm white. I just identify as a white Jew.

Ayron??

White Isreallite sounds so christian identity, but if you are a jew you are a wannabee nazi because nazis will never accept jews as white
I'm sorry that you and WI have started interacting so badly, but calling a good jew a NAZI wannabee means you lose the argument.

I didnt loose the argument, his nazi affinities are obvious, he calls himself white and he disrespects mexicans and calls romas criminals. Im suspect of the people who have white or aryan in their username they are usually nazis

There is nothing wrong with the word White. If you don't like the word White then one may assume you might be a racist. White Israelite is respected and very much liked by all here on the forum myself included. You started this first, I saw the post where you infered he is a racist because he used White in his name. I think it would be nice if you started over and perhaps you could apologise to White. That would be the proper thing to do, and you did start this after all.

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Re: Are the Albanians descendents of Roma/Gypsies?
« Reply #16 on: February 08, 2009, 01:08:32 PM »
There is nothing wrong with having a 'white' identity. I can understand that you, Inquiring Mind, are circumspect about white identity, because you may not feel that you are included in that, or you may feel that white identity stands in opposition to yourself, but I think that you need to think again on it.

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Re: Are the Albanians descendents of Roma/Gypsies?
« Reply #17 on: February 08, 2009, 02:49:45 PM »
A few years ago, I became interested in learning more about the Roma people, erroneously called "gypsies" (because people originally thought they came from Egypt.)

I read a few books about them ("The Nazi Persecution of the Gypsies", "We Are the Romani People", and so on.) I also became online friends with a university professor in TX who is of Roma ancestry. But I still did not personally know any other than the one online friendship.

And then I happened to join a UK-based forum, where I met MANY Englishmen who hate Roma, and they kept saying they are all thieves in the UK. I had no firsthand experience like that, so I couldn't understand.

Finally, one of the guys said to me, "Look...you know how blacks are in your country? THAT is how gypsies are HERE!"

I think I started to "get it" after he said that.  ;D

But I still don't personally have any issues with Roma, because truthfully, they have never done anything to me.
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Re: Are the Albanians descendents of Roma/Gypsies?
« Reply #18 on: February 08, 2009, 02:52:58 PM »
There is nothing wrong with having a 'white' identity. I can understand that you, Inquiring Mind, are circumspect about white identity, because you may not feel that you are included in that, or you may feel that white identity stands in opposition to yourself, but I think that you need to think again on it.

I, too, identfy as White, and proudly so! I don't care if neoNazis would not regard me as white. What they think does not matter!

If I were walking down the street and a group of shvartsas saw me, THEY would consider me as White, and would most likely mug me!
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Re: Are the Albanians descendents of Roma/Gypsies?
« Reply #19 on: February 08, 2009, 03:59:18 PM »

I, too, identfy as White, and proudly so! I don't care if neoNazis would not regard me as white. What they think does not matter!

If I were walking down the street and a group of shvartsas saw me, THEY would consider me as White, and would most likely mug me!

Right.

Roma are a different people, but in the UK, they/we are white, phenotypically.

You would identify some of them as different from the other Brits, if you saw twenty of them in a room together, otherwise the blend in, in a way that the Roma in Eastern Europe do not. They often have a certain strength around the bridge of the nose, but often not. I do not have have this look myself, but I think that it is very handsome.

The actor Michael Caine, for example, is a Romnichal:



My best friends are all part-Roma like me. Every single one of them.

One of my friends had eight children; this is stereotypical. They are all good-looking.

It is true that some sections of the community are involved in criminal activities.

This is just the way that the cookie crumbles.
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Re: Are the Albanians descendents of Roma/Gypsies?
« Reply #20 on: February 08, 2009, 04:13:36 PM »
No. And they dont look alike. Dont insult romas

The majority of gypsies are criminals, they are like the Mexicans of Europe but worse.

They prefer to be called  romas and they are not criminals. Are you a nazi? White Isrealite is a racist sounding username.

You calling me a racist because I identify as white? That's racist to assume I can only be racist because i'm white. I just identify as a white Jew.

Ayron??

White Isreallite sounds so christian identity, but if you are a jew you are a wannabee nazi because nazis will never accept jews as white
I'm sorry that you and WI have started interacting so badly, but calling a good jew a NAZI wannabee means you lose the argument.

I didnt loose the argument, his nazi affinities are obvious, he calls himself white and he disrespects mexicans and calls romas criminals. Im suspect of the people who have white or aryan in their username they are usually nazis

Since when do the Nazis decide who is white and who isn't? Heck, look at Tom Metzger and other Neo Nazis with mixed native American blood, the Nazis are a "political" group and make their own decisions who is white and who isn't. StørmFrønt was worshipping Scarlett Johansson in the "white models/actresses" thread until someone came out after about 50 pages and told them she was Jewish. 

Neo Nazis consider him white


Neo Nazis do not consider her white


You may not realize it, but you are infact racist for assuming anyone with white in their name is a Nazi or a racist. I'm sure you wouldn't object if someone came here with the name "Black African" or otherwise.

I am certainly no Nazi, I wouldn't support a socialist organization.

Jews are not specifically a race, they are made up of all different people from around the world. It is a religion. Many Jews however are genetically tied to the Israelites via DNA. You can research the J1-CMH haplotype.

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Re: Are the Albanians descendents of Roma/Gypsies?
« Reply #21 on: February 08, 2009, 04:24:52 PM »

Jews are not specifically a race, they are made up of all different people from around the world. It is a religion. Many Jews however are genetically tied to the Israelites via DNA. You can research the J1-CMH haplotype.


That haplotype thingy is very 'cool'.

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Re: Are the Albanians descendents of Roma/Gypsies?
« Reply #22 on: February 08, 2009, 05:09:27 PM »
Doesn't Tom Metzger look like Dr. Evil in that pic?  :laugh:

I think the neonazis shoot themselves in the feet when they reject someone for having 1/32nd Native American blood, or 1/8th Jewish blood, or whatever.

There are a LOT of people who share many of their views. This is one reason why they will never get anywhere!  :::D
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Re: Are the Albanians descendents of Roma/Gypsies?
« Reply #23 on: February 08, 2009, 05:10:37 PM »

I, too, identfy as White, and proudly so! I don't care if neoNazis would not regard me as white. What they think does not matter!

If I were walking down the street and a group of shvartsas saw me, THEY would consider me as White, and would most likely mug me!

Right.

Roma are a different people, but in the UK, they/we are white, phenotypically.

You would identify some of them as different from the other Brits, if you saw twenty of them in a room together, otherwise the blend in, in a way that the Roma in Eastern Europe do not. They often have a certain strength around the bridge of the nose, but often not. I do not have have this look myself, but I think that it is very handsome.

The actor Michael Caine, for example, is a Romnichal:



My best friends are all part-Roma like me. Every single one of them.

One of my friends had eight children; this is stereotypical. They are all good-looking.

It is true that some sections of the community are involved in criminal activities.

This is just the way that the cookie crumbles.


One of my all-time favorite actors was also Roma: Yul Brynner! In fact he was a representative of the Romani National Congress while he was alive (I think that was the name of the group.)
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Re: Are the Albanians descendents of Roma/Gypsies?
« Reply #24 on: February 08, 2009, 05:36:43 PM »
Doesn't Tom Metzger look like Dr. Evil in that pic?  :laugh:

I think the neonazis shoot themselves in the feet when they reject someone for having 1/32nd Native American blood, or 1/8th Jewish blood, or whatever.

There are a LOT of people who share many of their views. This is one reason why they will never get anywhere!  :::D

Actually, that's what's contradicting about it is that they will accept those with "native American" blood but yet they are so called "white nationalists".