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Are the Albanians descendents of Roma/Gypsies?
GoIsraelGo!:
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--- Quote from: White Israelite on February 06, 2009, 01:47:42 AM ---
--- Quote from: Inquiring Mind on February 06, 2009, 12:43:34 AM ---No. And they dont look alike. Dont insult romas
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The majority of gypsies are criminals, they are like the Mexicans of Europe but worse.
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They prefer to be called romas and they are not criminals. Are you a nazi? White Isrealite is a racist sounding username.
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You calling me a racist because I identify as white? That's racist to assume I can only be racist because i'm white. I just identify as a white Jew.
Ayron??
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White Isreallite sounds so christian identity, but if you are a jew you are a wannabee nazi because nazis will never accept jews as white
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I'm sorry that you and WI have started interacting so badly, but calling a good jew a NAZI wannabee means you lose the argument.
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I didnt loose the argument, his nazi affinities are obvious, he calls himself white and he disrespects mexicans and calls romas criminals. Im suspect of the people who have white or aryan in their username they are usually nazis
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There is nothing wrong with the word White. If you don't like the word White then one may assume you might be a racist. White Israelite is respected and very much liked by all here on the forum myself included. You started this first, I saw the post where you infered he is a racist because he used White in his name. I think it would be nice if you started over and perhaps you could apologise to White. That would be the proper thing to do, and you did start this after all.
Shalom - Dox
Fortis:
There is nothing wrong with having a 'white' identity. I can understand that you, Inquiring Mind, are circumspect about white identity, because you may not feel that you are included in that, or you may feel that white identity stands in opposition to yourself, but I think that you need to think again on it.
JewishAmericanPatriot:
A few years ago, I became interested in learning more about the Roma people, erroneously called "gypsies" (because people originally thought they came from Egypt.)
I read a few books about them ("The Nazi Persecution of the Gypsies", "We Are the Romani People", and so on.) I also became online friends with a university professor in TX who is of Roma ancestry. But I still did not personally know any other than the one online friendship.
And then I happened to join a UK-based forum, where I met MANY Englishmen who hate Roma, and they kept saying they are all thieves in the UK. I had no firsthand experience like that, so I couldn't understand.
Finally, one of the guys said to me, "Look...you know how blacks are in your country? THAT is how gypsies are HERE!"
I think I started to "get it" after he said that. ;D
But I still don't personally have any issues with Roma, because truthfully, they have never done anything to me.
JewishAmericanPatriot:
--- Quote from: Fortis on February 08, 2009, 01:08:32 PM ---There is nothing wrong with having a 'white' identity. I can understand that you, Inquiring Mind, are circumspect about white identity, because you may not feel that you are included in that, or you may feel that white identity stands in opposition to yourself, but I think that you need to think again on it.
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I, too, identfy as White, and proudly so! I don't care if neoNazis would not regard me as white. What they think does not matter!
If I were walking down the street and a group of shvartsas saw me, THEY would consider me as White, and would most likely mug me!
Fortis:
--- Quote from: JewishAmericanPatriot on February 08, 2009, 02:52:58 PM ---
I, too, identfy as White, and proudly so! I don't care if neoNazis would not regard me as white. What they think does not matter!
If I were walking down the street and a group of shvartsas saw me, THEY would consider me as White, and would most likely mug me!
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Right.
Roma are a different people, but in the UK, they/we are white, phenotypically.
You would identify some of them as different from the other Brits, if you saw twenty of them in a room together, otherwise the blend in, in a way that the Roma in Eastern Europe do not. They often have a certain strength around the bridge of the nose, but often not. I do not have have this look myself, but I think that it is very handsome.
The actor Michael Caine, for example, is a Romnichal:
My best friends are all part-Roma like me. Every single one of them.
One of my friends had eight children; this is stereotypical. They are all good-looking.
It is true that some sections of the community are involved in criminal activities.
This is just the way that the cookie crumbles.
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