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Are the Albanians descendents of Roma/Gypsies?
Zelhar:
Seriously ? I heard Albanians claim they're descended from the Illirians.
proud montenegrian serb:
--- Quote from: Zelhar on February 09, 2009, 09:53:44 AM ---Seriously ? I heard Albanians claim they're descended from the Illirians.
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he,he!are u kidding??? :::D
they got nothing with ancient illirians,i live in town where lived illirian queen Teuta,where is most famous roman and illirians mosaics and museum.
old illirians were mixed with old slavs in 8-9 century,and they extinct in slav majority,and shiptars comes for first time in europe for 11century.
now shiptars want to proof that they are origins of old illirians,but believe me,they are not,90procent of them look like arabs,and they have their "culture".
alkaida is now present in kosovo and shiptaria(albania).
i got some little hotel ,and before few years,here comes few people,and i didn't know from where are they,and i didn't ask them.
and next day i was having dinner at restorant,and they come to me and ask me something on english.
we start talking ,and i ask them from what country are they.
one who spoke with me was from germany,some profesor,and another was from albania some minister.
and they start ask me what i think about kosovo,imagine that!!!! >:(
i told them my opinions and that was gasoline on fire.
they start to telling me that shiptars are illirians,but not any fact,only we live in kosovo and albania for milleniums and onother bullsh...
i ask albanian how is their language are not similar with old illiric,and how is that their nation are not remember single one illirian hero,or how is that they got no single tales or song about them?
and guess what?
he didn't said one word including his german nazi friend(as he was talking in his speech about jews and try little about serbs and i stopped him for both)
than albanian said that they got djerdj kastrioti albanian hero! :::D
how can man from a greek father and serbian mother be shiptar???
and what u gotta say on this???
i gotta say for shiptars,be loyal citisiens of serbia(kosovo),or leave it!!!!!!!
Spectator:
Who are the Illyrians?
Which group did their language belong to? Are there peoples today with the language similar to that of Illyrians?
White Israelite:
--- Quote from: Spectator on February 09, 2009, 03:48:28 PM ---Who are the Illyrians?
Which group did their language belong to? Are there peoples today with the language similar to that of Illyrians?
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illyrians
Illyrians has come to refer to a broad, ill-defined[1] "Indo-European"[2] group of peoples who inhabited the western Balkans (Illyria, roughly from central Albania to southern Pannonia) and even possibly Messapia in Southern Italy (if the Messapian language is to be considered an Illlyrian dialect[3]). Illyrians[4] were part[5] of the Hallstatt culture.[6][7][8][9][10]
In theory, Illyrians are defined as speakers of the Illyrian languages, but since the latter is practically unknown, this entails the danger of a circular definition. The existence of a broad "Illyrian" ethnic identity in the past is uncertain, and some argue that the ethnonym Illyrioi came to be applied to this large group of peoples by the ancient Greeks, Illyrioi having perhaps originally designated only a single people that came to be widely known to the Greeks due to proximity.[11][12]
Indeed, such a people known as the Illyrioi have occupied a small and well-defined part of the south Adriatic coast, around Skadar Lake astride the modern frontier between Albania and Montenegro. The name may then have expanded and come to be applied to ethnically different peoples such as the Liburni, Delmatae, Iapodes, or the Pannonii.
Fortis:
Albanians are racially very heterogenous.
One can see incredible differences between members of the same family.
There must be a Roma element in the population as well, but I always understood Albania to be the homeland of the Dinaric sub-race:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dinaric_race
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