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Re: Are the Albanians descendents of Roma/Gypsies?
« Reply #50 on: February 12, 2009, 07:11:31 AM »
Once I read that Albanians were a Turkic tribe with Cuman heritage, and ancient Albanians and Romanians were same. I don't know it is right or not.

  Romanians are descends of Dacic people mixed with Ancent Romanic people (NOT ROMAS aka Gipsies) .
  After the second war between Dacia and Romanic Empior, Dacia lost, many Dacic men died, and many Dacic women remaned...Roman men moved in Dacia and mixed with Dacic women and formed ROMANIANS!

It's right but many people think they are gypsies.

Gypsies are from India.

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Re: Are the Albanians descendents of Roma/Gypsies?
« Reply #51 on: February 12, 2009, 12:41:52 PM »
Once I read that Albanians were a Turkic tribe with Cuman heritage, and ancient Albanians and Romanians were same. I don't know it is right or not.

  Romanians are descends of Dacic people mixed with Ancent Romanic people (NOT ROMAS aka Gipsies) .
  After the second war between Dacia and Romanic Empior, Dacia lost, many Dacic men died, and many Dacic women remaned...Roman men moved in Dacia and mixed with Dacic women and formed ROMANIANS!

It's right but many people think they are gypsies.

  Then MANY people are stupid!
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Re: Are the Albanians descendents of Roma/Gypsies?
« Reply #52 on: February 12, 2009, 03:11:57 PM »
Hungarian chauvinists think they are descented of Sumerians, and that Jesus was Hungarian.  :laugh: :::D ;D :'( ;D :laugh:
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Re: Are the Albanians descendents of Roma/Gypsies?
« Reply #53 on: February 12, 2009, 03:49:57 PM »
Hungarian chauvinists think they are descented of Sumerians, and that Jesus was Hungarian.  :laugh: :::D ;D :'( ;D :laugh:
he,he!!! :::D
as i know hungarians and fins are huns from east asia(atilla,khans etc.)

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Re: Are the Albanians descendents of Roma/Gypsies?
« Reply #54 on: February 12, 2009, 04:17:45 PM »
Hungarian chauvinists think they are descented of Sumerians, and that Jesus was Hungarian.  :laugh: :::D ;D :'( ;D :laugh:
he,he!!! :::D
as i know hungarians and fins are huns from east asia(atilla,khans etc.)
No they are Magyars, they even call themselves Magyar in their Magyarian Hungarian language.

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Re: Are the Albanians descendents of Roma/Gypsies?
« Reply #55 on: February 12, 2009, 04:23:29 PM »
Hungarian chauvinists think they are descented of Sumerians, and that Jesus was Hungarian.  :laugh: :::D ;D :'( ;D :laugh:
he,he!!! :::D
as i know hungarians and fins are huns from east asia(atilla,khans etc.)
No they are Magyars, they even call themselves Magyar in their Magyarian Hungarian language.
yes, but they really are huns,their language is only similar with fins,ugro-fin languages.
don't get me wrong,about this,i am not some hungarian hater,i love their girls ;D

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Re: Are the Albanians descendents of Roma/Gypsies?
« Reply #56 on: February 12, 2009, 04:25:51 PM »
Zelhar (You are right)

Magyar means Hungarian, in the Hungarian language. Proud Montenegrian Serb you are right in part, but current Hungarians have Slavic and Germanic "bloods" too, + another Turkic heritage.

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Re: Are the Albanians descendents of Roma/Gypsies?
« Reply #57 on: February 12, 2009, 04:29:24 PM »
This video is about the Hungarians, history, culture by one of my Jewish friend (Gavriel):

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Re: Are the Albanians descendents of Roma/Gypsies?
« Reply #58 on: February 12, 2009, 07:28:03 PM »
Zelhar (You are right)

Magyar means Hungarian, in the Hungarian language. Proud Montenegrian Serb you are right in part, but current Hungarians have Slavic and Germanic "bloods" too, + another Turkic heritage.

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You don't have to explain what "Magyar" means because we also call them LIKE THAT!We don't say anything similar with "Hungar"(only here on English).

We say "Madjar" as we heard how they call them selves centuries ago.

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Re: Are the Albanians descendents of Roma/Gypsies?
« Reply #59 on: February 12, 2009, 07:29:03 PM »
Zelhar (You are right)

Magyar means Hungarian, in the Hungarian language. Proud Montenegrian Serb you are right in part, but current Hungarians have Slavic and Germanic "bloods" too, + another Turkic heritage.

 :)
You don't have to explain what "Magyar" means because we also call them LIKE THAT!We don't say anything similar with "Hungar"(only here on English).

We say "Madjar" as we heard how they call them selves centuries ago.

French, and Germans say similar to "Hungarian", for example Ongrie, or Ungarische
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Re: Are the Albanians descendents of Roma/Gypsies?
« Reply #60 on: February 12, 2009, 07:30:43 PM »
Hungarian chauvinists think they are descented of Sumerians, and that Jesus was Hungarian.  :laugh: :::D ;D :'( ;D :laugh:
Hehe...And Bosnian Muslims say that they have pyramids.

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Re: Are the Albanians descendents of Roma/Gypsies?
« Reply #61 on: February 12, 2009, 07:33:07 PM »
Hungarian chauvinists think they are descented of Sumerians, and that Jesus was Hungarian.  :laugh: :::D ;D :'( ;D :laugh:
Hehe...And Bosnian Muslims say that they have pyramids.

   :::D HILLARIOUS!!!!! :::D
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Re: Are the Albanians descendents of Roma/Gypsies?
« Reply #62 on: February 12, 2009, 07:36:34 PM »
Zelhar (You are right)

Magyar means Hungarian, in the Hungarian language. Proud Montenegrian Serb you are right in part, but current Hungarians have Slavic and Germanic "bloods" too, + another Turkic heritage.

 :)
You don't have to explain what "Magyar" means because we also call them LIKE THAT!We don't say anything similar with "Hungar"(only here on English).

We say "Madjar" as we heard how they call them selves centuries ago.

French, and Germans say similar to "Hungarian", for example Ongrie, or Ungarische
I know,that's why their names Hungary and Hungarian are world wide accepted.Austro-Hungarian Empire we called "Austro-Ugarska",while our name for Hungary is "Madjarska".

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Re: Are the Albanians descendents of Roma/Gypsies?
« Reply #63 on: February 12, 2009, 07:37:55 PM »
Hungarian chauvinists think they are descented of Sumerians, and that Jesus was Hungarian.  :laugh: :::D ;D :'( ;D :laugh:
Hehe...And Bosnian Muslims say that they have pyramids.

   :::D HILLARIOUS!!!!! :::D

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bosnian_pyramids

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Re: Are the Albanians descendents of Roma/Gypsies?
« Reply #64 on: February 15, 2009, 06:47:52 AM »
omg....i heard about those pyramids b4.......

and somebody said macedonian was a totaly different language,from what i know,it was one of the older serbian spoken dialects that didn't get in to the serbian language...i wouldn't cathagorise macedonians as a whole other nation...

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Re: Are the Albanians descendents of Roma/Gypsies?
« Reply #65 on: February 15, 2009, 08:11:29 AM »
omg....i heard about those pyramids b4.......

and somebody said macedonian was a totaly different language,from what i know,it was one of the older serbian spoken dialects that didn't get in to the serbian language...i wouldn't cathagorise macedonians as a whole other nation...

  Macedonians were formed in order to break the Great Serbia formation? MAYBE!!! I'm not sure!
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Re: Are the Albanians descendents of Roma/Gypsies?
« Reply #66 on: February 15, 2009, 09:33:15 AM »
Romanians (Vlachs) are descendents of ancient Ilirians and Moesians, They were romanised and when Roman border on Danube colapsed in VII century, some of them emigrated to Valachia and Macedonia, and some of them remained in what is now Serbia. They're not Gypsies.

http://www.friesian.com/decdenc2.htm

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11 They dress the wound of my people as though it were not serious. Peace, peace, they say, when there is no peace.

12 Are they ashamed of their loathsome conduct? No, they have no shame at all; they do not even know how to blush. So they will fall among the fallen; they will be brought down when they are punished, says the LORD.

13 'I will take away their harvest, declares the LORD. There will be no grapes on the vine. There will be no figs on the tree, and their leaves will wither. What I have given them will be taken from them.'

14 Why are we sitting here? Gather together! Let us flee to the fortified cities and perish there! For the LORD our God has doomed us to perish and given us poisoned water to drink, because we have sinned against him.

15 We hoped for peace but no good has come, for a time of healing but there was only terror.

16 The snorting of the enemy's horses is heard from Dan; at the neighing of their stallions the whole land trembles. They have come to devour the land and everything in it, the city and all who live there.

17 See, I will send venomous snakes among you, vipers that cannot be charmed, and they will bite you, declares the LORD.

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Re: Are the Albanians descendents of Roma/Gypsies?
« Reply #67 on: February 15, 2009, 02:04:02 PM »
I myself wonder if the Shiptars (Albanians) are descended from the Dravids (Tamils) of South India. They both have a language that is completely unrelated to any other language family in the world, both converted to Islam en masse, and both make their living via heroin-dealing and organized crime.

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Re: Are the Albanians descendents of Roma/Gypsies?
« Reply #68 on: February 15, 2009, 02:13:01 PM »
Is it PC to say Futar instead of Shiptar ?

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Re: Are the Albanians descendents of Roma/Gypsies?
« Reply #69 on: February 15, 2009, 04:15:31 PM »
Is it PC to say Futar instead of Shiptar ?
What's "Futar"?
Albanians call themselves "Shiptari"(alb."shqiptar") meaning "highlanders".So it's normal to call them by that name.

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Re: Are the Albanians descendents of Roma/Gypsies?
« Reply #70 on: February 15, 2009, 05:12:09 PM »
'Futar' is a human-cat hybrid in Frank Herbert's Dune universe.

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Re: Are the Albanians descendents of Roma/Gypsies?
« Reply #71 on: February 15, 2009, 06:37:07 PM »
i've heard heard they like to think of them selves as "childern of the eagle" and that shiptar means something of that kind...

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Re: Are the Albanians descendents of Roma/Gypsies?
« Reply #72 on: March 09, 2010, 02:51:29 PM »
omg....i heard about those pyramids b4.......

and somebody said macedonian was a totaly different language,from what i know,it was one of the older serbian spoken dialects that didn't get in to the serbian language...i wouldn't cathagorise macedonians as a whole other nation...

  Macedonians were formed in order to break the Great Serbia formation? MAYBE!!! I'm not sure!

Yes you are correct. Tito the Croat during WW2 was responsible for creating a so called Macedonian state and identity.  Their is no such thing as a Macedonian ethnicity. The ancient Macedonians were Greeks. 

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Re: Are the Albanians descendents of Roma/Gypsies?
« Reply #73 on: March 09, 2010, 04:55:45 PM »
No. And they dont look alike. Dont insult romas

The majority of gypsies are criminals, they are like the Mexicans of Europe but worse.

They prefer to be called  romas and they are not criminals. Are you a nazi? White Isrealite is a racist sounding username.

You calling me a racist because I identify as white? That's racist to assume I can only be racist because i'm white. I just identify as a white Jew.

Ayron??

White Isreallite sounds so christian identity, but if you are a jew you are a wannabee nazi because nazis will never accept jews as white

I am a white republican Jewish woman and I hate moslems, and I hate those who support the murderous moslems!
My dearest wish is to wake up and find all the Moslems off the face of this earth.
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It is racism when you are talking that way about muslims, they are not all bad... I classify people by what they did and doing not by religion, both muslims and jews where working against my country, so should I hate jews because of that? Of course not, you have to blame world oligarhy leaders and new world order, they can turn us against eachother with their money, they separate my people in several countries and make diferent nation of one people, we killed eachothers in wars, you know why - because of money and corupt people. My point is you should separate people on good and bad not to clasiffy them by their religion, we didn't choose our religion we inherit it from our ancestors it's our legacy. I don't like muslims or their religion but blaming them would not solve the problem, you have a big problem if you don't know with who you need to fight, think about it...
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Re: Are the Albanians descendents of Roma/Gypsies?
« Reply #74 on: March 09, 2010, 05:06:29 PM »
Once I read that Albanians were a Turkic tribe with Cuman heritage, and ancient Albanians and Romanians were same. I don't know it is right or not.

Albanians are what they need to be for their puppetier, and you will see all kinds of propaganda it's nothing unussual...Albanians got Kosovo because America need it to build a war base, probably for some future war...
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