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Kahane-Was-Right BT:
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--- Quote from: Kahane-Was-Right BT on February 16, 2009, 05:32:31 PM ---That was quite an ignorant statement. You are advised to stop inciting anti-Jewish hatred amongst gentiles by suggesting to them that we are saying anything derogatory. We simply are not. "Goyim" is a word for "gentiles." Goyim means nations. ('the nations' implies, 'the nations of the world' as opposed to the Jewish nation). And YOU Cf, do not decide what G-d curses and what He doesn't. Furthermore, you are ignorant of Jewish law, and regardless, you being a gentile, I would say you have no business attempting to tell us in the Judaism section what Jewish law is about. Take a hike, pal. You have business elsewhere (in the main section). You're out of your league.
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If you can't take a real Gentile Zionist, go back to HaRav Teitelbaum's forum where you will not have to deal with us.
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"Real Gentile Zionists" make antisemitic accusations against Jews in Jewish forums? Gee, that doesn't sound like a gentile zionist's behavior to me. What real gentile zionist would attempt to create a blood libel against Jews for the use of the word goyim, which is not derogatory despite your accusations and ignorance?
Lisa:
C.F., we know you're no fan of Shas, Rabbi Ovadia Yosef, and the Satmars.
Goyim, like KWR posted earlier, simply means non Jewish nations. There's nothing derogatory about it. And it has rarely been used here to belittle our wonderful non-Jewish members.
But getting back to Shas, R.O.Y, and the Satmars, you don't have to like them. I certainly don't agree with their positions on giving up Jewish land, and of Zionism. However, we all need to be careful about how our typed words come across. It's clearly a sensitive topic for the religious Jews here when a non-Jew (however well meaning) criticizes Satmars and R.O.Y. It would also be a sensitivie topic for the Christians if, for example, I were to put up a post saying all Baptist Christians are bad people. It would not go over well at all.
Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks:
--- Quote from: Lisa on February 16, 2009, 07:09:33 PM ---And it has rarely been used here to belittle our wonderful non-Jewish members.
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I know that. But it is often used a a slur on the splinter forums, and it is sometimes used by one or two members/former members here who are also splinter members.
DownwithIslam:
--- Quote from: Kahane-Was-Right BT on February 16, 2009, 05:32:31 PM ---
--- Quote from: C.F. on February 12, 2009, 07:10:30 PM ---Calling Gentile Zionists "goyim" is a terrible Chilul Hashem and will be cursed.
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That was quite an ignorant statement. You are advised to stop inciting anti-Jewish hatred amongst gentiles by suggesting to them that we are saying anything derogatory. We simply are not. "Goyim" is a word for "gentiles." Goyim means nations. ('the nations' implies, 'the nations of the world' as opposed to the Jewish nation). And YOU Cf, do not decide what G-d curses and what He doesn't. Furthermore, you are ignorant of Jewish law, and regardless, you being a gentile, I would say you have no business attempting to tell us in the Judaism section what Jewish law is about. Take a hike, pal. You have business elsewhere (in the main section). You're out of your league.
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Of course that is the literal translation of the world and it is not meant to be a slur but you kahanebt know very well that it's used by some fools as a slur against all gentiles. It doesn't have to be a bad word of course, but it all depends on the context. We have a righteous gentile here like CF and the last thing we need to be is hostile towards him.
DownwithIslam:
Kahanebt, you happen to not bash gentiles but their is someone who routinely posts in this section who openly bashes gentile zionists both on this forum and elsewhere on the internet. That is who me and chaimfan were addressing initially.
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