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Bought an AK47
MountainMan:
Thumbs down for the Rommies.. sorry no offense, they are cool to look at, but seem to be lacking quality since Century manufacturers them. I personally will stick with my Izmash Russian Saigas. More bang for your buck. ;D These days a Saiga 7.62 will only set you back $500, why bother wit ha Rommie? Any qualified gunsmith can convert them for reasonable cost or you can do it yourself, if you have the know-how.
White Israelite:
--- Quote from: MountainMan on May 18, 2009, 12:26:38 AM ---Thumbs down for the Rommies.. sorry no offense, they are cool to look at, but seem to be lacking quality since Century manufacturers them. I personally will stick with my Izmash Russian Saigas. More bang for your buck. ;D These days a Saiga 7.62 will only set you back $500, why bother wit ha Rommie? Any qualified gunsmith can convert them for reasonable cost or you can do it yourself, if you have the know-how.
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It's not a Century, it's built from a NoDakSpud receiver and a Romanian G kit, they are better quality than Century which are built on sporterized WASR-10's. WASR and Rommie G is not the same.
MountainMan:
Oh well then I'll bite my tongue. Yeah, I know the old school Romanian G-kits are high quality, I just didn't know if they really sold any of those anymore. My thoughts were Century pretty much took control of the import market of Rommie's. Anyhow, I still think that Saigas are highest quality of the AK family and are produced from the same factory as the "ORIGINAL AK". As far as price is concerned, they are almost same price as Romanian's and still cheaper than the way overpriced Arsenal Bulgarian AKs. I cannot see the advantage of owning a $1200-$2000 Arsenal over a converted Saiga 308/7.62 x 39. Yeah, I know its got a sexy name to it, but I highly doubt it really can make any tighter groups. I, myself, invested in a Saiga 308, converted with Galil folding stock. Considering putting on HK sights, but I think those are mostly for sexiness factor versus usability. I prefer .308 round to 7.62 x 39, since the 51 has more punching power than the 39. The only downside to .308 Saigas is you pay more for the mags, which is not a big deal to me in the long run. Ammo prices between .308 and 7.62x39, seem negligible these days.
BTW .. Your drum is real pretty.. Have fun at the range... ;D ;D
White Israelite:
--- Quote from: Sanguis on June 14, 2009, 11:31:30 AM ---Hi i'm quite new to this forum (I only joined today)
I'm a jew from the Netherlands and anti-semitism is growing here really fast.
Soon jews in the netherlands may have to use force to defend themselves.
i was wondering where i can buy a gun (it doesn't have to be an ak-47 lol, it can be a little hand gun or (as i prefer) a desert eagle).
guns are illegal here, but the criminals (most of them muslims) still have them.
maybe someone could help me out?
edit: and what price can i expect?
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Hi, if I recall, Netherlands has pretty lax gun laws.
There is a gun club in Heerhugowaard that offers introduction "courses" for groups of up to 20 persons. Heerhugowaard is not too far from Amsterdam (50 km, so probably closer to 45 minutes from central Amsterdam).
www.svdeheerhugowaard.nl/introductie.htm
MountainMan:
Dunno bout Netherlands having lax gun laws, as far as I know the government in Netherlands is rather liberal (in the communist sense) and restricting of personal freedoms. What they have is lax borders, so all the sand n*ggers can come on in with all their loot, including weapons and peddle it. However, I hear the Russian mafia works all around Western Europe and I am sure you can get all kinds of goodies from these unscrupulous fellows.. Heck, even in USA the Russian mob has set their foot down. I agree with you, if they are stripping you of your G-d given rights and setting you up for 2nd genocide, do whatever you can to resist and arm yourselves heavily.
BTW, Forget the Desert Eagle, that is for hollywood effects, get yourself a good high capacity semi automatic pistol. I think in Europe Sig's and HK's are readily available. Get a .45ACP handgun with 10 round capacity and get yourself some training. If one of those camel jockeys is going to try to jihad you, a good dose of .45 should do the job against whatever he's got. Remember to aim for the chest, a .45 has lot of energy "knockdown power" as they call it and will be much more likely to incapacitate him squicker than a 32, 38, 9mm or .40. If you can get yourself something snazzy, see if yo ucan hook up with some of those Sig 5.56 or H&K .308s semi autos, that are both sexy and powerful rifles. Don't forget to stock up on mags, lots and lots of mags.
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