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newman:
Malkah is THE woman of valour. She'd fight the whole Syrian army on her own. :)

Mifletzet:
A fascinating article here on the real meaning of the Eshet Chayil - "the woman warrior", by R.Tzadok

http://www.koshertorah.com/PDF/eshethayil.pdf


Eshet Hayil
(Proverbs 31:10) by HaRav Ariel bar Tzadok

Eshet Hayil Mi Yimtzah. An interesting choice of
words that translation does little to describe its true
meaning. An Eshet Hayil is usually translated as a
“woman of valor.” The traditional Aramaic
translation and classical commentaries all interpret
this to describe a woman who is descent and good.
Yet, the term Hayil describes something much
deeper and more active.
The term Hayil is related to the term Hayal, which is
the Hebrew word for soldier. In a way then the
Eshet Hayil is a woman soldier. This is why the
term is usually translated as Valor as opposed to
anything else. Yet, the word Valor while implying great deeds, still does not necessarily include
the martial sense that the original Hebrew term includes. Thus, I interpret Eshet Hayil as the
Woman Warrior.
The rest of this passage describes the activity of the Eshet Hayil as being active, ingenious,
diligent and conquering. However, the Eshet Hayil is a woman warrior, fighting a woman’s fight,
in a woman’s world. She does not fight a man’s battles, as would a man in a man’s world.
Rather, true to proper military form, she stays in formation and serves as her rank and title
defines her. Like the good soldier, she neither complains nor objects. Like a good soldier, the
motto of the Eshet Hayil is “mine is not to question why, mine is but to do, and do it right, period.
This is the true definition of the Eshet Hayil.
Mi Yimtzah. “Who can find.” Are these really words of praise? The subtle inference implied on
the surface level of reading this is that most women are not Eshet Hayils and are thus somehow
less. I do not believe that these words have come to make such a comparison. Indeed, I do not
believe they refer back to the Eshet Hayil at all. I believe these words, when interpreted with a
little help from Kabbalistic wisdom explain to us a statement about the proper mate that an
Eshet Hayil naturally attracts to herself.
Who will find her? Only one who can be called “Mi.” This word in Hebrew is spelled with two
letters Mem and Yod and Kabbalistically signifies a very specific state of mental balance and
alacrity between the intellectual (Binah) and intuitive (Hokhma) faculties of the mind. This is a
very high level of mental development and, needless to say, the physical accomplishments of
the individual of such a broad mind will be many. Such a man will recognize the value of the
Eshet Hayil over the external values of beauty, sensuality, softness and submission so often
today presented as desirable feminine qualities.
The Eshet Hayil by her natural martial nature towards life draws to herself a proper mate who
can equally match her and support her endeavors all the while that she supports his. Together,
the Eshet Hayil and her mentally intuitive and balanced husband form a team greater than the
composite sum of their individual talents. She calls out for her natural mate, not with words, or
with flamboyant advertisement of her sexuality, but rather with her sheer will of personality.
She is a powerhouse and a natural worker. She is a wife; mother and matriarch even while still
a child. It is her nature and her destiny to be these things. She does not have to try to make
them happen; she just naturally lets them happen. In this same way does a seasoned male
martial artist approach military combat. Rather than think about what he has to do, he just
allows himself to act as he was trained to, without forethought, doubt or confusion.
Both the Eshet Hayil and the Ish Hayil (martial artist, warrior) fight life’s opponents each in their
natural way. It is this psychic nature of the Eshet Hayil that catches the eye of her mate who is
the true Ish Hayil. She needs not do anything more to attract him. For it is he who finds her,"Mi
Yimtzah." “Mi” finds her, discovers her and considers this natural bond to be an acquisition of
the highest value.
V’rahok Mip’ninim Mikhrah. “And distant from pearls is her price.” Interesting how the Eshet
Hayil warrior woman is compared to pearls instead of silver, gold or even diamonds, each of
which can be argued to be of greater monetary value. Pearls however are very different in that
their beauty is natural, whereas the beauty of these others must be cultivated. Gold, silver and
diamonds are elements mined from the earth. Pearls on the other hands are grown inside a
living creature. Gold and silver need to be refined, diamonds need to be cut, pearls need no
such work. They are born with iridescence and luster.
Pearls represent natural beauty, and thus are rightly the image of comparison to the Eshet
Hayil. She too is not a product of grooming, makeup and seduction; on the contrary, her beauty
is natural, radiant and profound. Her character is what makes her most attractive, regardless of
the size of her waist or breasts. The size of her heart outweighs the importance of the size or
shape of any other part of her body.
An Eshet Hayil does not identify herself with her appearance; rather she identifies her self worth
by what she does, not by how she looks. She is not impressed by whimsical fashions, peer
pressures, or popular cultural concepts of femininity or beauty. Her appearance is always
graceful and majestic, never slutty or whorish. She is greater than a pearl. Her beauty, like that
of the pearl, is natural; not augmented like silver, gold or even diamonds. Pearls have great
worth; the value of an Eshet Hayil can never be estimated.

newman:

--- Quote from: Mifletzet on July 10, 2007, 10:42:31 PM ---A fascinating article here on the real meaning of the Eshet Chayil - "the woman warrior", by R.Tzadok

http://www.koshertorah.com/PDF/eshethayil.pdf


Eshet Hayil
(Proverbs 31:10) by HaRav Ariel bar Tzadok

Eshet Hayil Mi Yimtzah. An interesting choice of
words that translation does little to describe its true
meaning. An Eshet Hayil is usually translated as a
“woman of valor.” The traditional Aramaic
translation and classical commentaries all interpret
this to describe a woman who is descent and good.
Yet, the term Hayil describes something much
deeper and more active.
The term Hayil is related to the term Hayal, which is
the Hebrew word for soldier. In a way then the
Eshet Hayil is a woman soldier. This is why the
term is usually translated as Valor as opposed to
anything else. Yet, the word Valor while implying great deeds, still does not necessarily include
the martial sense that the original Hebrew term includes. Thus, I interpret Eshet Hayil as the
Woman Warrior.
The rest of this passage describes the activity of the Eshet Hayil as being active, ingenious,
diligent and conquering. However, the Eshet Hayil is a woman warrior, fighting a woman’s fight,
in a woman’s world. She does not fight a man’s battles, as would a man in a man’s world.
Rather, true to proper military form, she stays in formation and serves as her rank and title
defines her. Like the good soldier, she neither complains nor objects. Like a good soldier, the
motto of the Eshet Hayil is “mine is not to question why, mine is but to do, and do it right, period.
This is the true definition of the Eshet Hayil.
Mi Yimtzah. “Who can find.” Are these really words of praise? The subtle inference implied on
the surface level of reading this is that most women are not Eshet Hayils and are thus somehow
less. I do not believe that these words have come to make such a comparison. Indeed, I do not
believe they refer back to the Eshet Hayil at all. I believe these words, when interpreted with a
little help from Kabbalistic wisdom explain to us a statement about the proper mate that an
Eshet Hayil naturally attracts to herself.
Who will find her? Only one who can be called “Mi.” This word in Hebrew is spelled with two
letters Mem and Yod and Kabbalistically signifies a very specific state of mental balance and
alacrity between the intellectual (Binah) and intuitive (Hokhma) faculties of the mind. This is a
very high level of mental development and, needless to say, the physical accomplishments of
the individual of such a broad mind will be many. Such a man will recognize the value of the
Eshet Hayil over the external values of beauty, sensuality, softness and submission so often
today presented as desirable feminine qualities.
The Eshet Hayil by her natural martial nature towards life draws to herself a proper mate who
can equally match her and support her endeavors all the while that she supports his. Together,
the Eshet Hayil and her mentally intuitive and balanced husband form a team greater than the
composite sum of their individual talents. She calls out for her natural mate, not with words, or
with flamboyant advertisement of her sexuality, but rather with her sheer will of personality.
She is a powerhouse and a natural worker. She is a wife; mother and matriarch even while still
a child. It is her nature and her destiny to be these things. She does not have to try to make
them happen; she just naturally lets them happen. In this same way does a seasoned male
martial artist approach military combat. Rather than think about what he has to do, he just
allows himself to act as he was trained to, without forethought, doubt or confusion.
Both the Eshet Hayil and the Ish Hayil (martial artist, warrior) fight life’s opponents each in their
natural way. It is this psychic nature of the Eshet Hayil that catches the eye of her mate who is
the true Ish Hayil. She needs not do anything more to attract him. For it is he who finds her,"Mi
Yimtzah." “Mi” finds her, discovers her and considers this natural bond to be an acquisition of
the highest value.
V’rahok Mip’ninim Mikhrah. “And distant from pearls is her price.” Interesting how the Eshet
Hayil warrior woman is compared to pearls instead of silver, gold or even diamonds, each of
which can be argued to be of greater monetary value. Pearls however are very different in that
their beauty is natural, whereas the beauty of these others must be cultivated. Gold, silver and
diamonds are elements mined from the earth. Pearls on the other hands are grown inside a
living creature. Gold and silver need to be refined, diamonds need to be cut, pearls need no
such work. They are born with iridescence and luster.
Pearls represent natural beauty, and thus are rightly the image of comparison to the Eshet
Hayil. She too is not a product of grooming, makeup and seduction; on the contrary, her beauty
is natural, radiant and profound. Her character is what makes her most attractive, regardless of
the size of her waist or breasts. The size of her heart outweighs the importance of the size or
shape of any other part of her body.
An Eshet Hayil does not identify herself with her appearance; rather she identifies her self worth
by what she does, not by how she looks. She is not impressed by whimsical fashions, peer
pressures, or popular cultural concepts of femininity or beauty. Her appearance is always
graceful and majestic, never slutty or whorish. She is greater than a pearl. Her beauty, like that
of the pearl, is natural; not augmented like silver, gold or even diamonds. Pearls have great
worth; the value of an Eshet Hayil can never be estimated.

--- End quote ---

Do you know why Malkah's husband Yishei stomped on the glass on their wedding day?


Because it was the last time he ever got to put his foot down. :laugh:

Muck DeFuslims:
I don't know if this is true, but I've been told Pink is a Jewess.
 
If you're not aware, she's the pop singer of 'I'm coming out, so you better get the party started' fame.

She's not really ugly, but has more tattoos than an alcoholic sailor.

Is there anything more revolting than a woman with tons of tattoos ?

I've always found tats distasteful, whether on men or women, but especially on women.

I know Judaism prohibits getting tattoos, but what's the ruling on body piercings, like bellybutton rings, etc.?  How about pierced ears ?

   

newman:

--- Quote from: Muck DeFuslims on July 10, 2007, 11:10:33 PM ---I don't know if this is true, but I've been told Pink is a Jewess.
 
If you're not aware, she's the pop singer of 'I'm coming out, so you better get the party started' fame.

She's not really ugly, but has more tattoos than an alcoholic sailor.

Is there anything more revolting than a woman with tons of tattoos ?

I've always found tats distasteful, whether on men or women, but especially on women.

I know Judaism prohibits getting tattoos, but what's the ruling on body piercings, like bellybutton rings, etc.?  How about pierced ears ?

   

--- End quote ---

Is Pink a Jewess? She's a big strapping girl. Jewish women are usually little....as opposed to Jewish men who are usually big and strong.

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