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Raulmarrio2000:

--- Quote from: 18chai on April 02, 2009, 12:08:39 AM ---no g-d forbid they hang it on the wall

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Karaites DO NOT hang their talitot on the wall. They wear talit with white and blue tzitzit, only that the blue dye is vegetable. Since they don't believe in the Oral Law, they reject the idea that Techeiles must come from the chilazon. Furthermore they claim that a shelfish is not Kosher and so cannot be used for a mitzvah. Their reasoning is based in the fact that, when the Temple stood, Jews should not only avoid eating non-kosher but also touching it.
Hanging them in the wall? It's either a myth, or perhaps some really did it in the past (Karaites were not a well defined group in the past, the word applied to anyone who accepted only the Tanach -Mikrah- and rejected Oral Law). No wonder some cult could have done it some time in history, but those we know as Karaites today, certainly do not

Chai:
Perhaps they don't ,but because the Torah states "ye shall put them were you can see them" and it is only the oral Torah that stipulates wearing them , some do put it on the wall from such reasoning.  the vegetable dye is interesting .

But the Talmud states chilazon , that means snail. the color argomon (purple also comes form the same animal) however for blue it is kept in the sun longer and the molecular bonds of color break making it blue the longer you leave it the lighter the blue. There is no other animal that has the color of the sea like the Talmud states that yields such color. I think it’s in interesting subject

muman613:
I can imagine the crazy customs of those who don't accept the revelation at Sinai which is the Oral law. They probrobly don't undertand Mezuzah or Tefillin either. These mitzvahs are commanded in the Written Torah but are only explained by the Oral law. There is absolute proof of the divinity of the Oral law...

Chai:

--- Quote from: muman613 on April 02, 2009, 07:21:01 PM ---I can imagine the crazy customs of those who don't accept the revelation at Sinai which is the Oral law. They probrobly don't undertand Mezuzah or Tefillin either. These mitzvahs are commanded in the Written Torah but are only explained by the Oral law. There is absolute proof of the divinity of the Oral law...



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For sure, if anyone has any understanding of Hebrew knows that the Bible states in Exodus "these are the Torah(S)" plural. and in Hebrew ,  this does not mean plural as in pages or chapters but 2 separate things. oral Torah and the written Torah

Raulmarrio2000:

--- Quote from: muman613 on April 02, 2009, 07:21:01 PM ---I can imagine the crazy customs of those who don't accept the revelation at Sinai which is the Oral law. They probrobly don't undertand Mezuzah or Tefillin either. These mitzvahs are commanded in the Written Torah but are only explained by the Oral law. There is absolute proof of the divinity of the Oral law...



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In fact, Karaites do not have Mezuzot or Tefilin. They interpret those mitzvot (writing the words on the doorposts, tying them to one's hand and placing them between one's eyes) as figurative idioms meaning that Jews must appreciate the Torah as a precious jewel and keep it.
On the other hand, Samaritans also interpret Tefilin as figurtive but, literarily place Mezuzot ( generally writing some verses of the Torah -Samaritan version- on a stone above the entrance of their homes). Samaritan Mezuzot generally have the Priestly blessing and some other verses from the Torah in Samaritan Hebrew script. They write the sentence: "Blessed is He who said" in Samaritan Aramaic before the actual Torah Hebrew words.

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