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Horrors of KLA prison camps revealed BBC
« on: April 12, 2009, 07:13:46 AM »
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7990984.stm

 Michael Montgomery
BBC Radio 4, Crossing Continents

The man spoke plainly as he explained the horrors he lived through in a Kosovo Liberation Army prison camp 10 years ago. He told me about how he watched people beaten with steel pipes, cut with knives, left for days without food, and shot and killed.
Factory used as prison by KLA
Civilians were detained by the KLA and kept in prisons where some were killed

"What can you feel when you see those things?" he said. "It's something that is stuck in my mind for the rest of my life. You cannot do those things to people, not even to animals."

As the man talked, his mother paced nervously in the nearby kitchen. She was panicked and tears were streaming down her face.

"They'll kill him, they'll kill him," she moaned, clutching one of her grandchildren.

But her son persisted. We spent hours in the family's sitting room as our source detailed allegations of possible war crimes by KLA officers in a military camp in the Albanian border town of Kukes.

It was a crucial interview for a delicate story I have been investigating for years.

Mystery of the missing

Soon after the war ended in Kosovo, I started looking into the thousands of civilians who disappeared during and after the conflict. Many Albanian victims were dumped in wells or transported to mass graves as far away as Belgrade.

   
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But others - mainly Serbs - simply vanished without a trace. There were no demands for ransom, no news of any kind.

I had met sources who spoke vaguely about secret camps in Albania where Kosovo Serbs, Albanians and Roma were interrogated, tortured and in most cases killed.

I met another source who agreed to share important details about KLA prison camps. This man cut a very different profile.

He had returned from a successful career abroad to join the KLA in its fight for Kosovo's independence from Serbia.

The man was still proud of the goals he fought for, but he had become haunted by the treatment of civilians he had seen at a KLA prison camp. More than that, he said he felt angry and betrayed by KLA commanders who tolerated and even ordered the abuses.

"It didn't seem strange at the time," he told me as he described seeing desperate civilians locked in a filthy agricultural shed.

   
Now, looking back, I know that some of the things that were done to innocent civilians were wrong
Former KLA Fighter

He said the civilians were Serbs and Roma seized by KLA soldiers and were being hidden away from Nato troops. The source believes the captives were sent across the border to Albania and killed.

"Now, looking back, I know that some of the things that were done to innocent civilians were wrong. But the people who did these things act as if nothing happened, and continue to hurt their own people, Albanians."

This man was one of eight former KLA fighters who revealed some of their darkest secrets from the war.

A soldier's story

Yet another source spoke of driving trucks packed with shackled prisoners - mainly Serbian civilians from Kosovo - to secret locations in Albania where they were eventually killed.

He recalled hearing two of the captives begging to be shot rather than tortured and "cut into pieces".

"I was sick. I was just waiting for it to end," the source told me. "It was hard. I thought we were fighting a war [of liberation] but this was something completely different."

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A long silence over the atrocities has held strong throughout Kosovo

It has taken these men 10 years to speak to an outsider about the dark side of the war. They were breaking a code of silence that has held strong in Kosovo.

Very few Kosovo Albanians have publicly revealed crimes committed by their own side. And for good reason. Witnesses who have agreed to provide testimony for prosecutions of KLA commanders have faced intimidation and death threats.

Some have been killed, according to United Nations officials in Kosovo.

There is another reason. All the men we spoke with insisted they were Kosovan patriots and would take up arms again to defend the country's independence.

But that is precisely the point: independence - of a sort - arrived for Kosovo last year. Their wartime goal has been attained.

As one of the former KLA fighters told me: "Now is the time to be honest to ourselves and build a real state."

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Re: Horrors of KLA prison camps revealed BBC
« Reply #1 on: April 12, 2009, 01:50:18 PM »
Shalom,

Thank you, brother Dr.Yisrael, for posting this.

This BBC article is known as a "limited hangout" in intelligence/spy circles and is typical of what we here at JTF have come to expect of this leftist Jew-hating/Israel-hating British government media monstrosity.

Here is Scottish blogger Neil Craig's in depth analysis of how the BBC is yet again engaging in a deliberate cover-up of this horrific crime of genocide perpetrated by the Albanian Muslim Nazis:

HOW TO LIE IN THE MEDIA - BBC REPORT ON "ABUSES" IN KOSOVO

http://a-place-to-stand.blogspot.com/2009/04/how-to-lie-in-media-bbc-report-on.html

I have been pointed to this BBC online report today on the NATO genocide in Kosovo. From the headline "Kosovo civilian abuses revealed" which usually means touching in inappropriate places not mass murder, it is a tour de force in how to cover yourself while lying. I suspect it is a response to increasing mention of this here & elsewhere. Fisking:
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"The Kosovo Liberation Army (KLA) abducted civilians in Kosovo who were then mistreated and in some cases killed, a BBC investigation has found. In "some cases killed" is a dishonest way of discussing 1,300 people (non-Nato estimates are higher) kidnapped & murdered. If this has been known & reported, even by me, for years it is hardly something the BBC have "found".

Sources told the BBC that Kosovo Serbs, ethnic Albanians and gypsies were among an estimated 2,000 who went missing.

This took place both during and after the war in Kosovo, which ended in June 1999. ie under NATO peacetime occupation. In fact, except near the border most atrocities took place under NATO. "during.. the war" is also equivocal since it could mean during the formal war when NATO was involved but in fact our government admitted knowing that the KLA alone were engaged in atrocities before they decided to help them

Kosovo Prime Minister Hashim Thaci, the former KLA political director, has rejected the allegations.

Mr Thaci said he was aware that individuals had "abused KLA uniforms" after the war, but said the KLA had distanced itself from such acts.

He added that such abuse was "minimal".

Testimony

The BBC News investigation also studies claims that some of those held in Albania were killed for their organs, and that physical evidence gathered by UN investigators in Albania was destroyed by the International War Crimes Tribunal. "claims" implies doubt, also "some" implies a small number.

A former prisoner of the KLA, an ethnic Albanian from Kosovo who was held in a KLA prison in Kukes, northern Albania, agreed to speak to us on condition of anonymity. His family are terrified for his life.

"They ill-treated people in the corridor," he says. "They also came into the rooms in groups of five or six to question us. And they used knives, guns, and automatic rifles."

His testimony confirms that people of different ethnic backgrounds were kept there, including Serbs.

He told the BBC: "When a person is mistreated... he cries out 'oh mother' in his own language.

"The nights were very quiet, so you could hear them crying out... while they were being beaten, or afterwards."

Sources in Kukes suggest that up to 18 prisoners held at the camp were killed.Again downplaying the extent making it look less like genocide


Missing

Just across the border, in Prizren, in western Kosovo, Brankica Antic lights a candle for her husband Zlatko.


A Kosovo Serb, she says he was abducted in July 1999 in Prizren by men in KLA uniforms - six weeks after the end of the war, when Nato-led peacekeepers were well established.

At the Monastery of the Holy Archangel near Prizren, candles are lit for loved ones according to the Serbian Orthodox tradition.

Candles are lit either on the top shelf for the living, or the lower, for the dead. Brankica still lights her candles for Zlatko on the top.

"We always light candles for their health and well-being, and we will continue to do so unless and until their bodies are found, and we know for a fact that they are gone," she says.

Zlatko is one of about 400 Kosovo Serbs who were abducted at the end of the war, and are still missing, according to Family Associations of the Missing in Serbia.

Around 150 are still missing from the war period.

A further 1,500 Kosovo Albanians are still missing from wartime, when Serb security forces carried out many, well-documented atrocities against the majority Albanian population. Simply a lie, treating KLA "witnesses" making claims unsupported by or often contradicted by forensic evidence as "well documented".

Hundreds of bodies were found in mass graves in Serbia. Our investigation shows that KLA fighters, too, were guilty of serious human rights abuses. This seems to be part of the alleged 800-1000 bodies the post Milosevic regime were going to find, with NATO assistance, as part of the Freezer Truck hoax. No convincing evidence has been produced.
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Lets rewrite it showing how it could be put without any inaccuracy. I will send a copy to the BBC & ask if they can point to any inaccuracy or misleading statement or manner in which it is biased & will publish if they can find any:
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BBC CENSORED KOSOVO CIVILIAN GENOCIDE

The UCK, made up of Albanian gangsters with NATO weapons, murdered thousands of Serbs & other enemies in a campaign of genocide as the BBC has known but deliberately censored for many years

Sources told the BBC that Kosovo Serbs, ethnic Albanians and gypsies were among an estimated 3,500 murdered & also of the 350,000 ethnically cleansed under NATO control.


This took place both before during and after the war in Kosovo. The large majority took place under the NATO occupation after NATO took the UCK under their direct control & enrolled them en masse as police.

NATO appointed "Prime Minister" in the regime, whose existence is illegal under international law, Hashim Thaci, known as "Snake" when he was a terrorist leader was dismissive.


He said such abuse was "minimal".

Testimony

The BBC News investigation also censors an admission by the chief prosecutor of the NATO funded "War Crimes Tribunal" that all those held in Albania were killed for their organs, which were flown to western countries which western investigators have declined to name and that physical evidence gathered by UN funded investigators in Albania was destroyed by the NATO controlled International War Crimes Tribunal.

A former prisoner of the KLA, an ethnic Albanian from Kosovo who was held in a KLA prison in Kukes, northern Albania, agreed to speak to us on condition of anonymity. His family are terrified for his life.

"They ill-treated people in the corridor," he says. "They also came into the rooms in groups of five or six to question us. And they used knives, guns, and automatic rifles."

His testimony confirms that people of different ethnic backgrounds were kept there, including Serbs.

He told the BBC: "When a person is mistreated... he cries out 'oh mother' in his own language.

"The nights were very quiet, so you could hear them crying out... while they were being beaten, or afterwards."

Sources in Kukes suggest that up to 18 prisoners held at the camp were killed.

Missing

Just across the border, in Prizren, in western Kosovo, Brankica Antic lights a candle for her husband Zlatko.

A Kosovo Serb, she says he was abducted in July 1999 in Prizren by men in KLA uniforms - six weeks after the end of the war, when Nato-led peacekeepers were in full legal control as part of an agreement under which they had guaranteed to disarm the KLA & establish peaceful & non-racist rule.

At the Monastery of the Holy Archangel near Prizren, candles are lit for loved ones according to the Serbian Orthodox tradition.

Candles are lit either on the top shelf for the living, or the lower, for the dead. Brankica still lights her candles for Zlatko on the top.

"We always light candles for their health and well-being, and we will continue to do so unless and until their bodies are found, and we know for a fact that they are gone," she says.

Zlatko is one of about 3,500 Kosovo Serbs who were abducted at the end of the war, and are still missing, according to Family Associations of the Missing in Serbia.

KLA & Bosnian [Muslim] Nazi terrorists have regularly claimed the Serbs killed civilians too though there are a many cases of named "victims" being found alive & denying it in both Kosovo & Bosnia.

Hundreds of bodies were found in mass graves in Kosovo, of which the largest was at Dragodan, beside the British military HQ. Hundreds of bodies have been recovered from it, many of them proven to have been alive when NATO took control. The BBC has known, since the Foreign Secretary admitted it to Parliament 2 months before the war, that the NATO armed KLA alone, was engaged in a campaign of genocide & have unanimously lied & censored to promote this racial genocide for over 10 years.
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Re: Horrors of KLA prison camps revealed BBC
« Reply #2 on: April 12, 2009, 02:13:59 PM »
Never a problem, The government here will be eradicated, the conserictives will come back, and hopfull make things SLIGHTLY better.

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Re: Horrors of KLA prison camps revealed BBC
« Reply #3 on: April 12, 2009, 05:37:13 PM »
The thing that bothers me is that these non-humans are not being punished for their crimes. There is evidence, yet there is no justice.

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Re: Horrors of KLA prison camps revealed BBC
« Reply #4 on: May 01, 2009, 01:44:43 PM »
The thing that bothers me is that these non-humans are not being punished for their crimes. There is evidence, yet there is no justice.
   

So very true.

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Re: Horrors of KLA prison camps revealed BBC
« Reply #5 on: May 05, 2009, 10:51:24 AM »
Shameful


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Re: Horrors of KLA prison camps revealed BBC
« Reply #7 on: May 06, 2009, 06:41:03 AM »
Hahaha...
KLA?!

They are not a formation, they are just peons.