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Offline msd

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I don't agree with this site
« on: May 14, 2009, 09:33:30 AM »
Hello,

Name is Matthew Dickinson

I don't agree with this site very much. I agree with some things, such as

1. jews should live in Israel
2. Jews should worship G-d, defeat arabs, put to death terrorists in war, or in times of not war, after a trial

but I don't agree with Chaim ben Pesach's racism and it disturbs me the he set off bombs in New York in the 80s. It's wrong to destroy public property. I'm not sure if that is what it says in the Bible, but it may be against the commandment to remove landmarks.

Nonetheless I gave him a measly $30 the other day. I do want Israel to be a stronger country, I somehow think Chaim would make a wonderful Prime Minister (though why a prime minister? Isn't that a British parliamentary term?) Why not chaim for moshiach instead?

Too much?


Anyway, I don't have much to say about myself because talking about yourself on forums is pointless and stupid. Socializing on the internet is pointless and stupid. I've done it for over 10 years, it's a deadening process.

I threatened to shoot President Bush in 2002, that makes me a member of AL Queda as far I'm concerned, but a FORMER member. I regret threatening to shoot him. I would regret threatening to shoot Obama as well, even though they're similar. They're both socialists, aren't they? For bigger government. Sorry, but I supported Ron Paul a bit (with money) last year and don't believe he was a neo-nazi like Chaim ben PesacCHHHK says.

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I Also don't like the term Righteous Gentile. I don't know if that is a PERFECT translation of the Hebrew term, but I think it should be a term used BY Jews, or bestowed on a certain gentiles by Jews, and not just gentiles that save Jewish lives (I hate that -- that's how the term is so often used in the media).

The reason I hate that term is because it's WRONG to be prideful about yourself. To boast. And to call yourself righteous, what does that mean? You're supposed to be humble like Moses, not arrogant like Jesus.

The end bye

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I can't help but come back to edit this post to say that I love 4International's videos! They're great! The Halloween music works great.

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AJHGHH!!! Just realized that my DEFENSE of those Neo-Nazis in the first post, to Chaim ben Pesach's virtual face, was, sigh, coupled with my support of Ron Paul, just more evidence that Ron Paul supporters are neo-nazis. But I SAID i was against the racism of this site!!! So I'm not a neo-nazi. I'm just a gentile. A semi-righteous gentile. : P
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Re: I don't agree with this site
« Reply #1 on: May 14, 2009, 10:55:11 AM »
MSD, you don't have to agree with everything on this site.  All I ask is that you be civil, and respectful of the other members. 

In terms of Chaim's bombing activities, he merely damaged property.  There is no moral comparison between Chaim's actions and those of real terrorists, whose goal it is to kill as many innocents as possible. 

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« Reply #2 on: May 14, 2009, 03:20:00 PM »
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...but I don't agree with Chaim ben Pesach's racism and it disturbs me the he set off bombs in New York in the 80s.

Chaim Ben Pesach is not a racist! And JTF is not racist! The bombings are past and I agree with Chaim!
If you don't agree with Chaim or if you don't like him then you are wrong here! 

I think you are not welcome with this attitude!

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« Reply #3 on: May 14, 2009, 03:34:55 PM »
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...but I don't agree with Chaim ben Pesach's racism and it disturbs me the he set off bombs in New York in the 80s.

Chaim Ben Pesach is not a racist! And JTF is not racist! The bombings are past and I agree with Chaim!
If you don't agree with Chaim or if you don't like him then you are wrong here! 

I think you are not welcome with this attitude!

Bombing is the past, nuke is the next.  ;D By the way if we beat a Communist that is racism? That is only anti-communism, lol.  :laugh:
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« Reply #4 on: May 14, 2009, 03:37:24 PM »
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...but I don't agree with Chaim ben Pesach's racism and it disturbs me the he set off bombs in New York in the 80s.

Chaim Ben Pesach is not a racist! And JTF is not racist! The bombings are past and I agree with Chaim!
If you don't agree with Chaim or if you don't like him then you are wrong here! 

I think you are not welcome with this attitude!

Bombing is the past, nuke is the next.  ;D By the way if we beat a Communist that is racism? That is only anti-communism, lol.  :laugh:


No one beat a commie. Never happened! So we aren't terrorists or racists. Liars who call us racists!
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« Reply #5 on: May 14, 2009, 03:48:22 PM »
I'm not calling anyone here a terrorist.
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« Reply #6 on: May 14, 2009, 03:59:52 PM »
I'm not calling anyone here a terrorist.

I didn't said you called one of us a terrorist. I wanted to say that there are many stupid people out there who call us terrorists

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« Reply #7 on: May 14, 2009, 04:08:01 PM »
OK.

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« Reply #8 on: May 14, 2009, 04:27:49 PM »
msd,

We, yes all Human beings are going to make mistakes in our lives.. It doesn't matter whether it's small or big we do make wrong choices..

You, I and many others are different to lots of others in that we acknowledge that we have done wrong  in our journeys..

We all have differing opinions on many subjects but just imagine how boring the World would be today if we all thought the same  :o  .. But on the flipside it would probably be a whole lot better..

Onward and upward friend <--  dwell on the past and it will lead you to destruction..




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« Reply #9 on: May 14, 2009, 04:36:05 PM »
Thanks for the welcome and the good advice, not to dwell on the past. I don't know how much I'll post here, because I don't have much to add, but I'm glad to see there is a media fight against Islamic terror and leftism, and I may donate what I can again in the future.

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« Reply #10 on: May 14, 2009, 06:13:30 PM »
I don't think Chaim is that racist.  Though just look at the behavior of the majority of blacks and illegal Latinos and the fact that they are lazy and have a bad attitude.  Though you don't have to agree with everything Chaim says though.  Anyway thanks for joining. 
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« Reply #11 on: May 17, 2009, 06:37:25 AM »
Chaim is not racist. JTF members come from various demographics and ethnicity. Isnt that enough proof?

Also We support Chaim's past actions. Any sane person would.

ps: Welcome to JTF :p

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« Reply #12 on: May 17, 2009, 11:19:40 AM »
Chaim is not racist and if you have to use this label could you at least explain yourself ? Now racist is a label used by leftist to silence anyone who doesn't conform to their view. Msd, I am sure you are better than that...

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« Reply #13 on: May 19, 2009, 01:53:43 PM »
How is Jesus arrogant? Before he died he never mentioned anything, like for example He did not loudly proclaim to Pilate or Herod, "I AM GOD, BOW BEFORE ME" He virtually kept silent.

When Chaim says "Righteous Gentile" it's like someone calling you a real moral person. Obviously moral and good people don't brag about how moral and righteous they are thus most righteous people don't go around putting the word "Righteous" in front of their name for recognition.

George Bush was a big government disaster; he made some major errors but is not to blame for our "crisis." Obama is quadrupling down on Bush-style spending.
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« Reply #14 on: June 02, 2009, 01:43:00 PM »
What are the best solutions to the Islamic plague?

I am personally fairly liberal and lukewarm when it comes to politics. However watching movies like " " and 4International's YT videos has made me reconsider my apathy.

I think the best thing to do is to make an amendment to the Constitution that bans Islam's practice in America.

I don't think it's America's duty to fight Islam except on our shores. I don't care for militarism abroad. I wish we'd use our tax money to primarily solve domestic problems.

Banning Islam is the best way to go, if it's true what is said about Islam, that it wants to conquer the world, institute Sharia law everywhere, cut off the heads of all infidels or impose a tax on them. We already have enough taxes from the Jewish Federal Reserve.

The Federal Reserve may be lawful under Israeli law, because in Leviticus it says that usury is allowed over the stranger. Or maybe that's only the strangers residing in Israel -- I don't know. (It also says that taxes aren't allowed over the Israelite, which means Jizya isn't allowed for them).

I'm too new to the study of Islam to say much further. I feel that America and Israel would do best to part ways -- like Chaim ben Pesach has said, Israel shouldn't be receiving any foreign aid, and I think we should stop sending foreign aid to all countries, maybe, but especially Muslim ones.

I'm sorry if I anger anyone with the comment about "Jewish Federal Reserve." I don't care whether I'm regarded as anti-semitic or hateful toward Israel; I'm not. But I'll try not to post here anymore. :)

Still though. Any ideas for what should be done with Islam? What are the solutions? Does anyone have anything realistic besides "bomb them to hell"? I can't imagine that even my proposal to ban Islamic practice to be realistic. We're a melting pot, a nation that prides itself on its immigrants, we love the stranger and expect him to love US. We welcome the worship of many faiths. That's just a fact. That's who we are. Not saying that's who we SHOULD be, but that's how it is.

Perhaps it could go state to state, like the way gay marriage is going, the way abortion laws and so many other things work. But it probably can't, can it? Can Islam be banned?

My thinking is that there's no way Islam will ever be banned in America. I've already shot down my own proposal. Our best hope is to just arm our police with the best weapons and equipment and training possible, and hope they can do a good job fighting against homegrown terrorists here. I think they already have been doing a good job. For instance, the recent Arkansas terrorist has already been apprehended.

Chaim ben Pesach says that no Jews should run for office in America. Is it anti-semitic for a gentile to agree with him? Should a gentile care if he's anti-semitic?

I don't feel myself to be "proJew". In saying that I'm concerned that it makes me into anti-semite. Then again, there's always Norman Finkelstein who says that philo-semitism (pro-semitism) is really a form of anti-semitism. Damned if you do, damned if you don't. But it's my understanding that a gentile doesn't NEED to support Israel in order to be righteous, just as long as he doesn't go AGAINST Israel he is OK. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, but please don't post that quote from Genesis 12. I'm tired of hearing it.

I think the best hope for America is for more gentiles to be in office and less Jews to be there. There shouldn't be a Federal Reserve and people like Ben Bernanke shouldn't hold so much power. I am only anti-semitic to the point of wanting Jews out of America and into Israel. As far as I'm concerned, my interests coincide with Orthodox Judaism, which also wants Jews out of America and into Israel.

I'm not a neo-nazi. I've already called you guys racists, for instance. Someone here was asking whether I was a muzzie-lover or neo-nazi.

I think that Jews are supposed to rule the world. To be a leader is a great calling. Not many Jews can stand up to it, I bet. Unfortunately I think most of the best and brightest Jews are farthest from the faith; they're the most secular, the ones involved in the arts, business and politics of America and Europe. But now that we live in a world of international communication technology, and fast transportation, Jews have no excuse not to live in Israel and educate and influence the world from inside its borders. For instance, all posting to English forums on the internet could be done while your body is physically residing within Israel's borders. And Hollywood could be moved to Israel, though it's a very international business as it is, filming in locations all over the world, of course. But radio stations, newspapers, banks and other methods of control and influence of the world could be moved directly to Israel. I don't see what the hold up is.

This has been long and rambling, so I'm going to post it in my own Introduction thread instead of starting a new one.
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Some Gentiles want Jews to be the masters of the world, in a conspiratorial sense, because they want to see ORDER brought to the apparent chaos that is modern life. They want power to be structured pyramidically (the higher up you go, the less in charge). Jews deny that this is what they are trying to do and all talk of it is anti-semitic. But what if you could be a gentile believer in something like the Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion, :) -- sorry I cannot help but smile when I write this -- and at the same time be FOR it? in other words, what if such anti-semitism is actually wishful thinking!


But then again, probably not. HAha I am just insane. It makes no sense...
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« Reply #15 on: June 03, 2009, 09:55:26 AM »
I'm sorry I posted here. I don't belong. I need to become more of a recluse than I already am, and use the internet less. I don't understand socializing well.