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UK schools drop Holocaust from curriculum to avoid offending Muslims
TruthTyper:
It is a mistake to think of World War 2 as a Good vs. Evil battle. Every side what fighting for their own best personal interest.
--- Quote ---do not negate the historical fact that WWII was only about Jews.
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It was a struggle to control all of Europe. Immediently after WW2 the cold war was already rising up. Communist vs. the Capitalist. Hitler may have hated jews but so did alot of people at that time. I just don't believe 6 million jews died. I'm not sure of the exact numbers, but these numbers are clearly overexaggerated in order to assist the allies in winning a propaganda war against Nazi Germany.
I need to see some real excerpts from Mein Kampf to believe what you are saying. I doubt Hitler claimed the roman/carthage wars were began by jews, lol.
MassuhDGoodName:
Re: "...I need to see some real excerpts from Mein Kampf to believe what you are saying. I doubt Hitler claimed the roman/carthage wars were began by jews, lol..."
Just hilarious. You're a brainwashed fool...typical, because you "parrot" the Neo-Nazi Party line you've been soaking up for the past few years, yet you don't know the very first thing about anything.
Wait till you wake up one day and find out that your entire sense of reality and history has always been one huge terrific lie.
Din Rodef:
--- Quote from: TruthTyper on April 02, 2007, 09:59:09 PM ---It is a mistake to think of World War 2 as a Good vs. Evil battle. Every side what fighting for their own best personal interest.
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World War 2 was an epic battle between good and evil. Hitler was attempting to replace Biblical truth with Social Darwinism.
Be careful when you start thinking things like "every side was fighting for their own best interest." This kind of thinking is eerily similar to the liberal "realpolitik" philosophy that has created the current EU police state. It is the same kind of thinking that lead to the Communist notion of "the ends justify the means" that allowed Stalin to justify his slaughter of millions of fellow countrymen. This is also the kind of thinking that Balestinian's use to justify strapping suicide bombs on their own children.
People who believe in Hashem and live their lives according to Biblical truth understand that "the means justify the ends." In other words, each individual is responsible for his/her own actions and accountable to Hashem. It doesn't matter the outcome of the situation, because it only matters that the individual lived his/her life according to Hashem's teachings.
Those who do not truly follow Biblical teachings will believe that they are not personally accountable to Hashem. Instead, these people believe that they are accountable to other men. In other words, they replace G-d with MEN. This is the kind of thinking that allows a population to be ruled by a tyrant because people will fear the laws of the tyrant more than they will fear the laws of G-d.
Have you ever heard people say that "men who do not fear G-d, fear other men?"
It is not a coincidence that George Washington was able to bravely fight against King George of England because Washington feared no man. Washington would never be a slave to another man. Washington feared only G-d, so he was able to bravely fight against the tyranny of men.
JTF's founder, Chaim Ben Pesach, was able to spend many years in prison for his work on behalf of Russian Jews because he feared only G-d. He didn't fear the laws of men and this made him brave.
World War 2 was an attempt by the Axis powers to eliminate the concept of G-d and replace him with the laws of men. Hitler was attempting to replace "fear of G-d" with the "fear of men" so that he could take control. The Jews gave the world the laws of G-d (the Bible) so Hitler had to eliminate the Jews. But the Christians freed Europe from the tyranny of men too, so Hitler also had to eliminate Christianity. In order for Hitler to create a world empire based on Social Darwinism, he had to eliminate BOTH Christianity and Judaism.
World War 2 was the ultimate battle of good vs. evil.
Din Rodef:
--- Quote from: TruthTyper on April 02, 2007, 09:59:09 PM ---
It was a struggle to control all of Europe. Immediently after WW2 the cold war was already rising up. Communist vs. the Capitalist. Hitler may have hated jews but so did alot of people at that time. I just don't believe 6 million jews died. I'm not sure of the exact numbers, but these numbers are clearly overexaggerated in order to assist the allies in winning a propaganda war against Nazi Germany.
I need to see some real excerpts from Mein Kampf to believe what you are saying. I doubt Hitler claimed the roman/carthage wars were began by jews, lol.
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I've read Mein Kampf front to back and studied Nazism extensively.
From my recollection, everything that MassuhD said about Hitler is true. (and I would be happy to discuss this further if you want)
The problem I have with MassuhD is that he is interpreting Hitler from only Jewish perspective. This makes sense, because MassuhD is Jewish. But it is not Christian Western thinking and this causes SERIOUS conflict when it comes to teaching history with a Christian Western perspective.
World War II was NOT just a war against the Jews...it was a war against G-d himself.
Christendom was at stake. If the Nazis had won then the Jews would have been physically exterminated, but Christendom would have been exterminated too. World War II was a civil war within the West. Were White Europeans to return to the Godless Social Darwinism of the Roman Empire, or were they to be loyal to G-d and Christianity? This was the heart of World War II from a White Western Perspective....the Jews played a role...but they were only one part of a much larger picture.
MassuhDGoodName:
Din Rodef: "...But it is not Christian Western thinking and this causes SERIOUS conflict when it comes to teaching history with a Christian Western perspective..."
Din Rodef, it seems that we find a large area of agreement.
Our historical perspectives of The Third Reich differ only slightly.
I hope we can both agree on the adage that Jews are "the canary in the coal mine".
As we see today, whenever the spectre of Jew-hatred suddenly becomes a world-wide phenomenon, a new global conflagration is imminent.
Theodore Herzl, the 19th Century Austrian journalist credited today with the political philosophy known as modern Zionism, made many keen observations regarding the place of the Jew within gentile societies.
History has since reconfirmed these views and vindicated his perspectives.
Herzl wrote "...Anti-Semitism, is a permanent feature of Western civilization...it is always present..subtly underneath the thin veneer of "civilized society"..."it manifests full strength whenever periods of social unrest and/or political confusion take place; which occur in cyclical episodes every generation or two"..."hatred and scapegoating of the Jew, is the only constant in European philosophy and politics" [my paraphrase of Herzl's quote].
Of course, if one is to attempt to destroy Western Christian Civilization, it is The Jew who must first and foremost be discredited and destroyed; Christianity and Christian society will afterwards tumble over like dominoes once the very basis of belief in G-d and morality are done away.
Hitler's Socialism basically differed from that of Marxism/Leninism/Stalinism only to the extent that Nazism is based solely on race being the determinant of which group is to receive the full political benefits of the socialist system.
The more ideologically pure Russian Socialism stressed the equality of all races and sexes within an international proletarian brotherhood.
Of course, numerous other variants, such as the role of women, etc., are obvious, but Socialism essentially is Totalitarianism.
Socialism always seeks Empire through military conquest preceded by socio-economic-political subversion; including the use of terror as a tactic.
Once in place, the BIG LIE of Socialist Theory becomes apparent to all.
The citizenry is disarmed and enslaved.
A new class of "commisars" receive entitlement to the highest standard of living with all of its accoutrements.
Socialism's "masses" (the other class) do what they are told, or face punishment.
In a nutshell, capitalism & free enterprise allow individuals to make their own decisions and benefit from their own labor and enterprise; Socialism merely shifts all decisions, benefits, enterprise, and wealth, to a miniscule elite political ruling class.
Most interesting, as Herzl succinctly noted, is that both systems insist that it is The Jew responsible for their shortcomings.
Perhaps this is because in their most pure sense, both Capitalism and Socialism are amoral at their very roots; using the front of "benefit to society as a whole" to mask their innate greed and selfishness.
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