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Your Handgun of Choice for Different Situations
Yonah:
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--- Quote ---Any Smith and Wesson J-Frame, but preferably a 340PD because of its extremely light weight and can fire .357 magnum.
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Nice Gun.. My hand says ouch with those hot .357's coming out of that ultra lightweight gun :'( I opted for the 442 because there is no way in heck I am shooting .357 out of a gun that weighs like 12 ounces. No Thanks. You also lose a lot of velocity of the projectile, because .357 doesn't utilize near its full potential coming out of a short barrel like that. Still a great piece if you got the dough.
--- Quote ---If I had to go for a pistol, it would be a Glock.
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Consider the S&W M&P semi auto series.. Its everything a glock is supposed to be. Shall I say, a Glock on steroids?
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I've never fired from a 340PD; I hear it's really bad. I've fired .38+P from a steel J-frame and didn't think it was too bad, but if I bought a 340PD it would be to carry and only fire if I absolutely had to.
I like Glocks for a number of reasons, ranging from accuracy to engineering; the only flaws I can think of are that they look and feel cheap, and are uncomfortable to hold without an added wraparound grip.
I was last in the US when the M&P had just been released, so I saw one in a shop but never fired from one. It was comfortable to hold and I thought it was quite nice. Size wise, how does a compact .40 compare to a Glock 27? Is there an internal lock?
MountainMan:
--- Quote ---I like Glocks for a number of reasons, ranging from accuracy to engineering; the only flaws I can think of are that they look and feel cheap, and are uncomfortable to hold without an added wraparound grip.
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Well one thing Glocks got going for them is that they are cheap, parts are replaceable and they are very popular. However, as for as engineering I have to contest. I have spoken to a police sniper who did some rugged field testing of the Glocks, lets say firing 10,000+ rounds, and his conclusion was they were a throw away gun. Basically, they tend to deteriorate and suffer great performance problems after 5,000 round range. Other polymer semi auto guns have been able to outperform and outlast Glocks on several occassions. This is coming from a guy who is a firearm instructor for law enforcement for many years. ALso, the grip on a glock is just G-d awful, what can I say. It is like holding a brick and I think results in a great decrease in precision, since you cannot get a good hold on the gun, unless you have king kong hands. My personal opinion , Glocks are overrated, cheap, poorly designed, plastic pieces of garbage.. I know many will come and beat me down for this bold comment; pardon me for being so direct.
--- Quote --- was last in the US when the M&P had just been released, so I saw one in a shop but never fired from one. It was comfortable to hold and I thought it was quite nice. Size wise, how does a compact .40 compare to a Glock 27? Is there an internal lock?
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Some models come with internal lock, but mine doesn't have it. You can get it with or wihtout the lock. What many models do have is a magazine disconnect safety that prevents the gun from firing when the magazine is removed. Some may consider this an advantage or disadvantage. My personal view is it is one more thing that can go wrong on the gun, but some think they may get in an armed wrestling match with a perpetrator that will require them to quickly disconnect the mag. YOu can also purchase the gun without the mag disconnect safety. Ambidextrous safeties are optional, I prefer just relying on the trigger for safety.
I have fired a couple compact models of S&W M&P and it blows away the glock because of the superior grips which mold into your hand. I personally don't care for compact guns, even though I have the semi-compact Sig Sauer P229 which is a bit larger framed than a compact glock. The various grips on the S&W and superior construction make it quite a tack driver compared to a glock. If you strip the M&P you will see its modeled after a glock, but has several improvements. The design has been carefully engineered and evolved. I personally believe this gun can outperform even a more expensive Hechkler and Koch, HK45. The frame on the M&P is quite slim compared to a glock and you may even feel comfortable carrying the full size model. I believe the barrels on .40 caliber are around 4.5" which are not hard to conceal, the compact models contain 3.5" barrels. After feeling the lovely light DA trigger pull on the M&P, that alone may convince you to throw the plastic brick (Glock) into the recycle bin. Would be worth it to investigate.. Let me know if you get your hands on it.. Many ranges will rent out the M&P's as well. Shooting their 9mm was a lot of fun and it shoots way better than I do.. Due to the lightweight the .45 has some kick, but nothing too bad when u get use to it, I enjoy shooting it one handed as well.
Heres a pic of the Smith and Wesson 40c, compare it to the ugly glock :laugh:
P.S. Notice the little tactical rail on the gun, for mounting your lasers, lights, etc. ;D
The ugly duckling, the G23
And its ugly little friend, the G27 .. The G27 is more the equivalent ofthe 40c.. Same barrel length, subcompact. Good luck getting tight groups at 40 yards with this one.
Yonah:
I'll try to check one out next time I go to the US - what I've been able to read about it so far as all seemed pretty good.
mord:
I have used both Glocks and Berettas ,Berretas in my opinion are so much better on all counts and yes they look good
Harzel:
Why would people still use revolvers today ?
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