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What it's like to teach black students
« on: July 06, 2009, 04:08:06 AM »
An interesting article by a school teacher. This agrees with the experiences of my friend who went to South Africa to teach black students as a volunteer.

http://martynemko.blogspot.com/2009/06/white-teacher-speaks-out-what-is-it.html

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Re: What it's like to teach black students
« Reply #1 on: July 06, 2009, 05:21:08 AM »
That article is very accurate. For those who might live in countries with few blacks, this sentence basically sums it up:

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Most whites simply do not know what
black people are like in large numbers,
and the first encounter can be a shock

Don't judge this teacher as "racist" until you've been around a similar number of blacks.

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« Reply #2 on: July 06, 2009, 09:18:34 AM »
That article is very accurate. For those who might live in countries with few blacks, this sentence basically sums it up:

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Most whites simply do not know what
black people are like in large numbers,
and the first encounter can be a shock

Don't judge this teacher as "racist" until you've been around a similar number of blacks.


That is so true! I saw it and lived through it myself in Detroit! >:(
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Re: What it's like to teach black students
« Reply #3 on: July 06, 2009, 09:44:20 AM »
My wife had her VERY first black student this last year for 3rd grade (She's taught 100's of hispanics, but never a blac).  She started off saying.. he was charming, and had potential, but wasn't focused.... by the end of the year, she hated him and confesed that he was the worst student she EVER had.  He would brutally and violently bully the other Mexican students, he even attempted to rape one of the other students.  He COULD NOT sit still, and would humm and talk to himself during testing.  He would ignore the most basic commands, such as sit down, or write down your name.  He was as teachable as a chimpanzee (My words, not hers)



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Re: What it's like to teach black students
« Reply #4 on: July 06, 2009, 09:48:18 AM »
Great article.

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« Reply #5 on: July 06, 2009, 10:19:26 AM »
My wife had her VERY first black student this last year for 3rd grade (She's taught 100's of hispanics, but never a blac).  She started off saying.. he was charming, and had potential, but wasn't focused.... by the end of the year, she hated him and confesed that he was the worst student she EVER had.  He would brutally and violently bully the other Mexican students, he even attempted to rape one of the other students.  He COULD NOT sit still, and would humm and talk to himself during testing.  He would ignore the most basic commands, such as sit down, or write down your name.  He was as teachable as a chimpanzee (My words, not hers)



Rape in the 3rd grade???  :o

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Re: What it's like to teach black students
« Reply #6 on: July 06, 2009, 11:58:09 AM »
Excellent article!
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Re: What it's like to teach black students
« Reply #7 on: July 06, 2009, 01:27:48 PM »
My wife had her VERY first black student this last year for 3rd grade (She's taught 100's of hispanics, but never a blac).  She started off saying.. he was charming, and had potential, but wasn't focused.... by the end of the year, she hated him and confesed that he was the worst student she EVER had.  He would brutally and violently bully the other Mexican students, he even attempted to rape one of the other students.  He COULD NOT sit still, and would humm and talk to himself during testing.  He would ignore the most basic commands, such as sit down, or write down your name.  He was as teachable as a chimpanzee (My words, not hers)

Rape in the 3rd grade???  :o

Attempted rape...well, more like sexual molestation,  He was ripping off her clothes, and grabbing her in certain areas.
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Re: What it's like to teach black students
« Reply #8 on: July 06, 2009, 01:28:28 PM »
Rape in the 3rd grade???  :o

They biologically are able to go into puberty earlier than other races. They develop faster in the womb, and they age slightly faster. This is the first time I've heard of one doing this in the third grade, but I don't think it's impossible.

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Re: What it's like to teach black students
« Reply #9 on: July 06, 2009, 01:43:58 PM »
Ugh.  Makes me wish Lincoln rounded them up and sent them to Liberia instead of us having to deal with this black disaster.  I can't believe this country reveres that destructive clown of a president who left us stuck with these baboons.

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Re: What it's like to teach black students
« Reply #10 on: July 06, 2009, 01:47:54 PM »
Here's a part of the article that I think really stood out:

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There was a lot of drug-dealing at my school. This was a good way to make a fair amount of money but it also gave boys power over girls who wanted drugs. An addicted girl—black or white—became the plaything of anyone who could get her drugs.

One of my students was a notorious drug dealer. Everyone knew it. He was 19 years old and in eleventh grade. Once he got a score of three out of 100 on a test. He had been locked up four times since he was 13.

One day, I asked him, “Why do you come to school?”

He wouldn’t answer. He just looked out the window, smiled, and sucked air through his teeth. His friend Yidarius ventured an explanation: “He get dat green and get dem females.”

“What is the green?” I asked. “Money or dope?”

“Both,” said Yidarius with a smile.

A very fat black interrupted from across the room: “We get dat lunch,” Mr. Jackson. “We gotta get dat lunch and
brickfuss.” He means the free breakfast and lunch poor students get every day. “[censored], we know’d you be lovin’ brickfuss!” shouts another student.

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Re: What it's like to teach black students
« Reply #11 on: July 06, 2009, 01:56:22 PM »
I believe it is an accurate report about the teacher's experience but it doesn't accurately describes black America as a whole. This is the situation is housing projects and poor urban black neighborhoods.

I am sure many blacks grow up in less black dominated areas and schools. At least many blacks I see on TV like Kobe Bryant or Venus Williams can speak proper English and in fact they strike me as intelligent persons. 

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Re: What it's like to teach black students
« Reply #12 on: July 06, 2009, 02:21:12 PM »
I believe it is an accurate report about the teacher's experience but it doesn't accurately describes black America as a whole. This is the situation is housing projects and poor urban black neighborhoods.

I am sure many blacks grow up in less black dominated areas and schools. At least many blacks I see on TV like Kobe Bryant or Venus Williams can speak proper English and in fact they strike me as intelligent persons. 

Zelhar the blacks you see on tv are carefully chosen to create a certain, very inaccurate image of the whole. You would understand if you were in an area that got inundated with Katrina evacuees after the hurricane.

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« Reply #13 on: July 06, 2009, 02:49:20 PM »
I actually believe that this is an accurate description of poor black dominated areas. I have a hypothesis, that any half decent black family simply escapes such environment, leaving behind a society devoid of talent and lacking any drive for excellency.

The only way to educate a black crime neighborhood such as in the article is by spreading the kids in different boarding schools. Otherwise this is a hopeless situation.

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Re: What it's like to teach black students
« Reply #14 on: July 06, 2009, 02:51:22 PM »
I believe it is an accurate report about the teacher's experience but it doesn't accurately describes black America as a whole. This is the situation is housing projects and poor urban black neighborhoods.

I am sure many blacks grow up in less black dominated areas and schools. At least many blacks I see on TV like Kobe Bryant or Venus Williams can speak proper English and in fact they strike me as intelligent persons. 

Zelhar the blacks you see on tv are carefully chosen to create a certain, very inaccurate image of the whole. You would understand if you were in an area that got inundated with Katrina evacuees after the hurricane.
Most of those carefully chosen to create a certain inaccurate image, eventually show their true colors given enough time and freedom.  You know like Whitney Houston and Mike Tyson.  Without white people managing their every move they revert back to natural tendencies.
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Be very CAREFUL of people whose WORDS don't match their ACTIONS.

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Re: What it's like to teach black students
« Reply #15 on: July 06, 2009, 02:52:52 PM »
I actually believe that this is an accurate description of poor black dominated areas. I have a hypothesis, that any half decent black family simply escapes such environment, leaving behind a society devoid of talent and lacking any drive for excellency.

The only way to educate a black crime neighborhood such as in the article is by spreading the kids in different boarding schools. Otherwise this is a hopeless situation.
That will just ruin all the boarding schools.
Be very CAREFUL of people whose WORDS don't match their ACTIONS.

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Re: What it's like to teach black students
« Reply #16 on: July 06, 2009, 02:54:24 PM »
I believe it is an accurate report about the teacher's experience but it doesn't accurately describes black America as a whole. This is the situation is housing projects and poor urban black neighborhoods.

I am sure many blacks grow up in less black dominated areas and schools. At least many blacks I see on TV like Kobe Bryant or Venus Williams can speak proper English and in fact they strike me as intelligent persons. 

Zelhar the blacks you see on tv are carefully chosen to create a certain, very inaccurate image of the whole. You would understand if you were in an area that got inundated with Katrina evacuees after the hurricane.

The inner chimp always comes out.
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« Reply #17 on: July 06, 2009, 03:10:55 PM »
I think you divert my argument into a different issue- that even more affluent, educated blacks, for the most part,  have evil culture. I am trying to say that much of the black people are not as incompetent, as dumb, moronic and incapable, as those kids from the housing projects. 

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Re: What it's like to teach black students
« Reply #18 on: July 06, 2009, 07:21:55 PM »
Here's a part of the article that I think really stood out:

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There was a lot of drug-dealing at my school. This was a good way to make a fair amount of money but it also gave boys power over girls who wanted drugs. An addicted girl—black or white—became the plaything of anyone who could get her drugs.

One of my students was a notorious drug dealer. Everyone knew it. He was 19 years old and in eleventh grade. Once he got a score of three out of 100 on a test. He had been locked up four times since he was 13.

One day, I asked him, “Why do you come to school?”

He wouldn’t answer. He just looked out the window, smiled, and sucked air through his teeth. His friend Yidarius ventured an explanation: “He get dat green and get dem females.”

“What is the green?” I asked. “Money or dope?”

“Both,” said Yidarius with a smile.

A very fat black interrupted from across the room: “We get dat lunch,” Mr. Jackson. “We gotta get dat lunch and
brickfuss.” He means the free breakfast and lunch poor students get every day. “schvartza, we know’d you be lovin’ brickfuss!” shouts another student.


Wow that is so true and sad. If JTF was ever in power we could end all of this

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Re: What it's like to teach black students
« Reply #19 on: July 06, 2009, 07:24:35 PM »
I believe it is an accurate report about the teacher's experience but it doesn't accurately describes black America as a whole. This is the situation is housing projects and poor urban black neighborhoods.

I am sure many blacks grow up in less black dominated areas and schools. At least many blacks I see on TV like Kobe Bryant or Venus Williams can speak proper English and in fact they strike me as intelligent persons. 

Zelhar the blacks you see on tv are carefully chosen to create a certain, very inaccurate image of the whole. You would understand if you were in an area that got inundated with Katrina evacuees after the hurricane.

The inner chimp always comes out.
I think so.
Be very CAREFUL of people whose WORDS don't match their ACTIONS.

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Re: What it's like to teach black students
« Reply #20 on: July 06, 2009, 09:31:13 PM »
Wow that is so true and sad. If JTF was ever in power we could end all of this

That's very ambitious.

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Re: What it's like to teach black students
« Reply #21 on: July 06, 2009, 11:07:47 PM »
What I meant was JTF can cut their funding benefit.

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Re: What it's like to teach black students
« Reply #22 on: July 07, 2009, 02:28:42 AM »
Here's a part of the article that I think really stood out:

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There was a lot of drug-dealing at my school. This was a good way to make a fair amount of money but it also gave boys power over girls who wanted drugs. An addicted girl—black or white—became the plaything of anyone who could get her drugs.

One of my students was a notorious drug dealer. Everyone knew it. He was 19 years old and in eleventh grade. Once he got a score of three out of 100 on a test. He had been locked up four times since he was 13.

One day, I asked him, “Why do you come to school?”

He wouldn’t answer. He just looked out the window, smiled, and sucked air through his teeth. His friend Yidarius ventured an explanation: “He get dat green and get dem females.”

“What is the green?” I asked. “Money or dope?”

“Both,” said Yidarius with a smile.

A very fat black interrupted from across the room: “We get dat lunch,” Mr. Jackson. “We gotta get dat lunch and
brickfuss.” He means the free breakfast and lunch poor students get every day. “schvartza, we know’d you be lovin’ brickfuss!” shouts another student.


Wow that is so true and sad. If JTF was ever in power we could end all of this

Oh yes, it would end permanently.  Blacks like the ones in this article would be encouraged to move back to Africa with powerful incentives.