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An arab...
Boyana:
Welcome.
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Madmarv:
--- Quote from: republicandox on July 29, 2009, 12:31:31 AM ---Hello and welcome to the JTF.
I do know some Arabs, but they are Jewish so I have no issues with them. Also my niece is married to an Iranian Jew.
My concern is that many Christian Arabs have a tendency to side with muslims regarding Israel.
How do you feel about the palestinians and do you think they have any right to reside in Israel ?
Do you think that Israel should give up any land to the palestinians?
Shalom - Dox
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Some of them do, only for couple of facts and they are:
1. Sympathy. They feel similar because they're both arabs, for example: there are some russian christians reside in israel. They speak hebrew and everything, you can't distinguish them from any other jews russians in here. But would you ally yourself with say.. jordanian muslims if a problem occured between you and them? christian arabs feels the same, they feel that allying themselv with jews is like betraying their own nation, in the end, we live together, my village is 50% muslims, i deal with muslims everyday, that's why, christian arabs tends to have a neutral reaction in this struggle. Believe me, if you get to deal with certain people all the time, and you speak the same language, that's reason enough to feel sympathy for them.
2. They are blinded by the media, and are extremely misinformed, and they don't know anything about Islam. All they know about islam is, the kids they play football with, the students in school, the teachers, the neighbor next door. They have no idea what Islam and what the quran contains. If they do, and they truly realize it, it would be a big shock to them as it was to me when i first started realizing the danger relying in there.
Oh believe me. Christians and muslims fights all the time here. Every year, every party, there must be a race fight or something, that's why I barely go to there parties anymore, arabs just can't handle a proper event, and many arabs do know that. I remember back in high school when 7 muslims attacked my friend and they beated the [censored] out of him, because he got a problem with one of them. They don't even have any integrity to fight face to face, they are cowards and retarded.
Regarding your last question, I'm not sure, because I know if muslims got a new land, they will just ignore it and eventually it'll be a big garbage cane like all the other muslim arabic countries. And I don't trust muslims. I smell something really big gonna happen next decade world wide.
What I would really like to see is, muslims growing some more brain cells, being more rational and tolerant, before this happens, there is no place for discussion in my opinion. I don't think Israel should allow a neighbor or even help building it before they drop the idea of killing infidles (jews and christians and pagans and etc ...) or any other fascist idea they adopt from the koran. I believe if muslims got over themselves, got more rational, stopped being so hateful against other beliefs, and really just realized how much their religion is darkening their hearts, then and only then they should be able to get a spot near israel, and I believe israel should help them get on their feet because ... we are not nazis, we can't just drop them into the sea, they were living here for a very long time, even though 2k years not any of them were living here, but history bears a lot of demographic and geographical changes, along with nations rise and nations fall, and if we kept getting back and back in history, then we will see that not ONE country have not undergone drastic changes, at least a tiny bit, be it geographically or demographically.
So no, we shouldn't kick them to oblivion and not caring what would happen to them, as long as they get more rational, bearable.
And no, we should not give all the land to anyone. What happened on 48, have changed the lang in the middle east, and we should keep the status-vu (however u write this expression :)) and just.. keep on living in peace, or what left from it.
Hyades:
You sound very well reflected and neutral. And you have some very important points. I know several Christian Arabs as well as Arameans. While the Arabs mostly would like to see Islam fading or inventing itself new to become compatible with the 21st century, most Arameans would only like to see all Muslims dead.
Indeed, it is not only the Muslims, the big problem is Islam which keeps people who believe in it as hostages of it's evil Koran and Muhammad's teachings. Without Islam there would not be all this hatred among the Arabs and people in the Middle East.
SW:
--- Quote from: Hyades on July 29, 2009, 11:17:29 AM ---You sound very well reflected and neutral. And you have some very important points. I know several Christian Arabs as well as Arameans. While the Arabs mostly would like to see Islam fading or inventing itself new to become compatible with the 21st century, most Arameans would only like to see all Muslims dead.
Indeed, it is not only the Muslims, the big problem is Islam which keeps people who believe in it as hostages of it's evil Koran and Muhammad's teachings. Without Islam there would not be all this hatred among the Arabs and people in the Middle East.
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You are right! Without Islam (the idiology) there wouldn't be Muslims. And without Muslims there wouldn't be suicide bombers, killers, murderers, terror and other evil things they do.
It's like Nazism. Without the idiology of sHitler there wouldn't be 6 million dead Jews during the Holocaust.
Idiologies are a danger and evil!
Nazism was and is terrible. But we stoped it as good as we could. But I am not sure if we can stop Islam that good as we stoped Nazism. Todays weapons allow them more evil power. They have more chances to destroy us than the Nazis had. Just imagine the Nazis had nuclear weapons! They have nuclear weapons now (Muslims). Islam is the modern Nazism, just much bader and I will not see and feel their holocaust because it will be horrible!
You can see their Terror, 9/11, Madrid (Spain), London (UK), Israel, ... Trust me, it's just the beginning it's not the end. But we can end it! We as Christian/ Jewish community, we as western civilisation can stop them! The only thing we have to do is open the mouth! Protest! I think that helps a lot and Terror is no way. Terror is a way if they won't understand what we want. There is only one way to educate them if they will not do what we want!
Madmarv:
Indeed.
The war they're fighting is more of a cognitive war, their religion manipulates their minds, and their religious leaders manipulate the masses. It's sad and at the same time its very dangerous, we can't win a cognitive war by weapons no matter how affective they are, its like taking a headache pills for a liver disease. It might soften the pain a little bit but it doesn't solve the problem, at all.
Its our responsibility to improve our media and make it reach the whole world, and preach about the dangers of islam, broadcast true history, expose islam and its fake prophet, only then we will step into the war as a respective opponent. Islam knows that they can't win this war with military action, so they are infiltrating every country and preaching their fake hate words to the world, not to mention, they are breeding machines! look at europe and u.s.a, the amount of muslims there is growing year after year, and god forbid there'll be a muslim majority some day unless we do something about it. The average muslim family have around 8 members, whilst the original europian family have around 2, or even less...
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