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RationalThought110:
--- Quote from: Dominater96 on April 12, 2007, 12:38:17 AM ---Then again, I dont consider them Torah Jews, just like some of them dont consider me a torah jew.
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Why don't they consider yourself to be a Torah Jew?
kahaneloyalist:
There are some Jews who claim to follow the Torah and are also willing to surrender parts of Eretz Yisrael. They have various excuses, they generally focus on blatant misinterpretations of obscure rulings. Some argue since Mashiach hasnt come yet we cant have a State, the Satmars and their ilk. Others say we can have a state but we musnt offend the Goyim, like Rav Soloveitchik who in many ways was very wise but never shook the sick desire of German Jews for Goy approval.
Lisa:
--- Quote ---Are you serious? How could they call themselves Torah Jews and simultaneously advocate for such a policy?
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Rational Thought, I'll give you one example. I have a brother in law who is rather observant. On the other hand, he LOVES Yitzkhak Rabin, and thinks Rabbi Kahane is a religious fanatic. He is also an Islamophile (the way some people are Francophiles or Anglophiles). So needless to say, he is in favor of giving up land to the Arabs.
RationalThought110:
--- Quote from: kahaneloyalist on April 12, 2007, 01:43:31 AM ---There are some Jews who claim to follow the Torah and are also willing to surrender parts of Eretz Yisrael. They have various excuses, they generally focus on blatant misinterpretations of obscure rulings. Some argue since Mashiach hasnt come yet we cant have a State, the Satmars and their ilk. Others say we can have a state but we musnt offend the Goyim, like Rav Soloveitchik who in many ways was very wise but never shook the sick desire of German Jews for Goy approval.
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What's that crazy group that went to the Iran conference in the fall to deny the Holocaust? The night before Pesach began, one of their synagogues was burnt down. Maybe that should tell them to stop being against Israel and to stop supporting Iran.
kahaneloyalist:
They are the Neturei Karta, they are a tiny group with very few followers and they are the most viciously anti-Israel Jewish group in existence. They have been excommunicated by all other religious Jews
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