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Re: Are Americans thinking like Hindus?
« Reply #50 on: August 19, 2009, 12:07:13 AM »
Allah is not G-d. There was this guy on Pal Talk who had a great idea. He named his female dog Allah so that Allah would be his.. well, you know.  :laugh:

This is one reason the Jews have kept Hashems names from being spoken except in proper situations. We believe his name to be Holy, as he is Holy. Hashem simply means "The Name"... We avoid using the actual pronunciation of the name so that nobody can profane it easily.

You shall make yourself the Festival of Sukkoth for seven days, when you gather in [the produce] from your threshing floor and your vat.And you shall rejoice in your Festival-you, and your son, and your daughter, and your manservant, and your maidservant, and the Levite, and the stranger, and the orphan, and the widow, who are within your cities
Duet 16:13-14

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Re: Are Americans thinking like Hindus?
« Reply #51 on: August 19, 2009, 12:08:14 AM »
I found this if it is helpful:

http://74.125.155.132/search?q=cache:OJ1chUNjAjYJ:www.halachicworld.com/%255Cshow.asp%3FPID%3D9+jew+%22enter+a+mosque%22&cd=10&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

Yes, that site mentions both opinions...

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Opinion 1: Chidushei HaRan, Tzitz Eliezer, and others

The Tzitz Eliezer (14:91) rules that it is forbidden to enter a mosque. He proves this from the words of the Chidushei HaRan in Sanhedrin (61b), who states that since Moslems bow to their prophet Mohammed during their prayers, they are considered at that time as serving Avodah Zarah. The Chidushei HaRan explains that although they are not confusing Mohammed with Hashem, because they serve him in a manner reserved for Hashem, their worship takes on the Halachic status of Avodah Zarah. The Tzitz Eliezer therefore states that since a mosque is a house designated for the equivalent of idol worship, one may not enter it.

Opinion 2: Rambam, Rav Ovadya Yosef, and others

The Yabia Omer disagrees with the Tzitz Eliezer. He quotes a responsum of the Rambam as stating that the worship of Moslems is not Avodah Zarah at all. The Rambam explains that although originally the Moslems were somewhat involved in idol worship, they eventually rejected it and realized that there is only one G-d. Moreover, Rav Ovadya quotes many Poskim who even maintain, as does he, that it is permitted to Daven and learn Torah in a mosque. (He quotes others who argue that this is inappropriate. They maintain that the powers of impurity that are there from the different form of worship, which is mainly based on the teachings of someone who denied the authenticity of our Torah, make this inappropriate.)

I just realized that this a quote from a Book I have on my shelf... I have Halachic World Vols I & II..

http://www.feldheim.com/cgi-bin/category.cgi?item=978-1-58330-949-0&type=store&category=search
You shall make yourself the Festival of Sukkoth for seven days, when you gather in [the produce] from your threshing floor and your vat.And you shall rejoice in your Festival-you, and your son, and your daughter, and your manservant, and your maidservant, and the Levite, and the stranger, and the orphan, and the widow, who are within your cities
Duet 16:13-14

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Re: Are Americans thinking like Hindus?
« Reply #52 on: August 19, 2009, 12:11:12 AM »
Allah is not G-d. There was this guy on Pal Talk who had a great idea. He named his female dog Allah so that Allah would be his.. well, you know.  :laugh:

This is one reason the Jews have kept Hashems names from being spoken except in proper situations. We believe his name to be Holy, as he is Holy. Hashem simply means "The Name"... We avoid using the actual pronunciation of the name so that nobody can profane it easily.



Yes I think that's very wise :)

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Re: Are Americans thinking like Hindus?
« Reply #53 on: August 19, 2009, 12:15:03 AM »


This is hilarious.

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Re: Are Americans thinking like Hindus?
« Reply #54 on: August 19, 2009, 12:15:19 AM »
The conclusion of that article advises against visiting the mosque due to reasons of 'displaying interest in other religions' and because of Islams disrespect toward Jews and Torah...


http://74.125.155.132/search?q=cache:OJ1chUNjAjYJ:www.halachicworld.com/%255Cshow.asp%3FPID%3D9+jew+"enter+a+mosque"&cd=10&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

Conclusion

Although one should ask his Rav such a question, it appears that one can rely on these lenient opinions in order to enter a mosque, if need be. However, to tour mosques is clearly not advisable, just as being overly interested in other religions is also not advisable. After all, as we mentioned above, Islam clearly has much in it that is against the Torah. Displaying interest in Islam is therefore not a healthy way to preserve one's portion in the World to Come.
You shall make yourself the Festival of Sukkoth for seven days, when you gather in [the produce] from your threshing floor and your vat.And you shall rejoice in your Festival-you, and your son, and your daughter, and your manservant, and your maidservant, and the Levite, and the stranger, and the orphan, and the widow, who are within your cities
Duet 16:13-14

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Re: Are Americans thinking like Hindus?
« Reply #55 on: August 19, 2009, 12:43:43 AM »


This is hilarious.

Who is that supposed to be, Thor?

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Re: Are Americans thinking like Hindus?
« Reply #56 on: August 19, 2009, 12:45:33 AM »


This is hilarious.

Who is that supposed to be, Thor?

LOL, If you don't watch Family Guy you won't get it.

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Re: Are Americans thinking like Hindus?
« Reply #57 on: August 19, 2009, 12:46:15 AM »


This is hilarious.

Who is that supposed to be, Thor?

LOL, If you don't watch Family Guy you won't get it.


I don't think making fun of the real God is very funny.

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Re: Are Americans thinking like Hindus?
« Reply #58 on: August 19, 2009, 12:57:37 AM »
I agree with Rubystars. I never was able to get into Family Guy, its knockoff American Dad, or even South Park for the life of me. I prefer the Simpsons, KOTH, and Beavis & Butthead (although I have not seen very much of it).

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Re: Are Americans thinking like Hindus?
« Reply #59 on: August 19, 2009, 12:58:49 AM »


This is hilarious.

Who is that supposed to be, Thor?

LOL, If you don't watch Family Guy you won't get it.


I don't think making fun of the real G-d is very funny.

It's not making fun. It's just just bring funny using basic stereotypes.

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Re: Are Americans thinking like Hindus?
« Reply #60 on: August 19, 2009, 12:59:28 AM »
Pinky and the Brain



You shall make yourself the Festival of Sukkoth for seven days, when you gather in [the produce] from your threshing floor and your vat.And you shall rejoice in your Festival-you, and your son, and your daughter, and your manservant, and your maidservant, and the Levite, and the stranger, and the orphan, and the widow, who are within your cities
Duet 16:13-14

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Re: Are Americans thinking like Hindus?
« Reply #61 on: August 19, 2009, 12:59:39 AM »
I agree with Rubystars. I never was able to get into Family Guy, its knockoff American Dad, or even South Park for the life of me. I prefer the Simpsons, KOTH, and Beavis & Butthead (although I have not seen very much of it).

To each his own. At least you and I both LOVE "Bones"  8) 8) 8) 8)

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Re: Are Americans thinking like Hindus?
« Reply #62 on: August 19, 2009, 01:00:10 AM »
Pinky and the Brain





BRILLIANT SHOW!!!!!!!!!!!! BRINGS BACK MEMORIES!

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Re: Are Americans thinking like Hindus?
« Reply #63 on: August 19, 2009, 01:01:14 AM »



This is the cutest thing ever!!

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Re: Are Americans thinking like Hindus?
« Reply #64 on: August 19, 2009, 01:09:09 AM »
I LOVED Pinky and the Brain. And Bonkers.

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Re: Are Americans thinking like Hindus?
« Reply #65 on: August 19, 2009, 01:11:37 AM »
Spielberg is a genius. I wonder is he pro-Kahane in any way.

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Spielberg doesn't have a good rap around here...

Some of his political problems:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steven_Spielberg
Politics

    * Spielberg generally supports U.S. Democratic Party candidates. He has donated over $800,000 for the Democratic party and its nominees. He has been a close friend of former President Bill Clinton and worked with the President for the USA Millennium celebrations. He directed an 18-minute film for the project, scored by John Williams and entitled The American Journey. It was shown at America's Millennium Gala on December 31, 1999, in the National Mall at the Reflecting Pool at the base of the Lincoln Memorial in Washington, D.C..[44]

    * Spielberg resigned as an advisory board member of his local boy scout council in 2001 because of his disapproval of the BSA's anti-homosexuality stance.[45][46]

    * Spielberg joined Jeffrey Katzenberg and Haim Saban in endorsing the re-election of Hollywood friend Arnold Schwarzenegger, the Republican Governor of California, on August 7, 2006.

    * On February 20, 2007, Spielberg, Katzenberg, and David Geffen invited Democrats to a fundraiser for Barack Obama,[47]. But on June 14, 2007, Spielberg endorsed Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-NY) for President. While Geffen and Katzenberg supported Obama, Spielberg was always a supporter of Hillary Clinton. However Spielberg directed a video for Obama at the DNC in August 2008 and attended Obama's inauguration.

    * In February 2008, Spielberg pulled out of his role as advisor to the 2008 Beijing Olympics in response to the Chinese government's inaction over the War in Darfur.[48] Spielberg said in a statement that "I find that my conscience will not allow me to continue business as usual." It also said that "Sudan's government bears the bulk of the responsibility for these on-going crimes, but the international community, and particularly China, should be doing more.."[49] The International Olympic Committee respected Spielberg's decision, but IOC president Jacques Rogge admitted in an interview that "[Spielberg] certainly would have brought a lot to the opening ceremony in terms of creativity."[50] Spielberg's statement drew criticism from Chinese officials and state-run media calling his criticism "unfair."[51] Academy Award-nominated Chinese director Zhang Yimou ultimately directed the ceremonies, to wide international acclaim.

    * In September 2008, Spielberg and his wife offered their support to same-sex marriage, by issuing a statement following their donation of $100,000 to the "No on Proposition 8" campaign fund, a figure equal to the amount of money Brad Pitt donated to the same campaign less than a week prior.[52]
You shall make yourself the Festival of Sukkoth for seven days, when you gather in [the produce] from your threshing floor and your vat.And you shall rejoice in your Festival-you, and your son, and your daughter, and your manservant, and your maidservant, and the Levite, and the stranger, and the orphan, and the widow, who are within your cities
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Re: Are Americans thinking like Hindus?
« Reply #66 on: August 19, 2009, 01:14:08 AM »
Spielberg is a genius. I wonder is he pro-Kahane in any way.
This schmuck considers himself to be a negro (not joking-look it up) and in general is one of the most disgusting Jews on the planet in my opinion and Chaim's. Ask Chaim about this human roach sometime on Ask JTF.

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Re: Are Americans thinking like Hindus?
« Reply #67 on: August 19, 2009, 01:16:10 AM »
my bad :o :o :o :o

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Re: Are Americans thinking like Hindus?
« Reply #68 on: August 19, 2009, 01:23:51 AM »
my bad :o :o :o :o

We can just let that one slip, right? Chalk it up to me just not being informed? :eat: :eat: ??? ??? ???

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Re: Are Americans thinking like Hindus?
« Reply #69 on: August 19, 2009, 01:24:42 AM »
my bad :o :o :o :o

We can just let that one slip, right? Chalk it up to me just not being informed? :eat: :eat: ??? ??? ???

You certainly didnt change my opinion of you.....

It is still good... :)

You shall make yourself the Festival of Sukkoth for seven days, when you gather in [the produce] from your threshing floor and your vat.And you shall rejoice in your Festival-you, and your son, and your daughter, and your manservant, and your maidservant, and the Levite, and the stranger, and the orphan, and the widow, who are within your cities
Duet 16:13-14

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Re: Are Americans thinking like Hindus?
« Reply #70 on: August 19, 2009, 01:30:38 AM »
my bad :o :o :o :o

We can just let that one slip, right? Chalk it up to me just not being informed? :eat: :eat: ??? ??? ???

You certainly didnt change my opinion of you.....

It is still good... :)


Truth is all I said anyways was that he was a genius. Meaning Hashem gave him the ability to make awesome movies and sweet cartoons and stuff. He can be a total jerk off but his stuff can be good. Looks like I've got a few strikes against me here - - - I love sports, I am a huge fan of tv and movies that are written by or contain actors that are anti-semites or self hating jews, I get tempted easily by the anti-religious things I used to do, and I like music that is written by mostly druggies, anti-semites, and self hating Jews. Not to mention one of my best friends is STILL dating a brown shiktze despite my efforts and I smoke cigarettes.

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Re: Are Americans thinking like Hindus?
« Reply #71 on: August 19, 2009, 01:37:06 AM »
my bad :o :o :o :o

We can just let that one slip, right? Chalk it up to me just not being informed? :eat: :eat: ??? ??? ???

You certainly didnt change my opinion of you.....

It is still good... :)


Truth is all I said anyways was that he was a genius. Meaning Hashem gave him the ability to make awesome movies and sweet cartoons and stuff. He can be a total jerk off but his stuff can be good. Looks like I've got a few strikes against me here - - - I love sports, I am a huge fan of tv and movies that are written by or contain actors that are anti-semites or self hating jews, I get tempted easily by the anti-religious things I used to do, and I like music that is written by mostly druggies, anti-semites, and self hating Jews. Not to mention one of my best friends is STILL dating a brown shiktze despite my efforts and I smoke cigarettes.

Oy Gevalt!

You are young and life is forgiving... I don't think liking spielberg is the end of the world... I liked a few of his movies too...


You shall make yourself the Festival of Sukkoth for seven days, when you gather in [the produce] from your threshing floor and your vat.And you shall rejoice in your Festival-you, and your son, and your daughter, and your manservant, and your maidservant, and the Levite, and the stranger, and the orphan, and the widow, who are within your cities
Duet 16:13-14

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Re: Are Americans thinking like Hindus?
« Reply #72 on: August 19, 2009, 02:42:07 AM »
I just hope Americans don't start thinking gau jal is a tasty refreshment. If that happens, the transition to third world banana republic will be complete.
most americans are already degrading themself with alcohol and liquors without even drinking gau jal, if you feel gau jal is bad, good for you. ANd if it were indeed that bad, hindus woudnt have existed through last 5000 years. Every state in India where Hindu Nationalists are ruling have banned liquors, can you tell me which Republican in America has done so?

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Re: Are Americans thinking like Hindus?
« Reply #73 on: August 19, 2009, 02:43:38 AM »
I just hope Americans don't start thinking gau jal is a tasty refreshment. If that happens, the transition to third world banana republic will be complete.
most americans are already degrading themself with alcohol and liquors without even drinking gau jal, if you feel gau jal is bad, good for you. ANd if it were indeed that bad, hindus woudnt have existed through last 5000 years.

It's not poison, just grosses out my American sensibilities.

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Re: Are Americans thinking like Hindus?
« Reply #74 on: August 19, 2009, 02:46:11 AM »
I just hope Americans don't start thinking gau jal is a tasty refreshment. If that happens, the transition to third world banana republic will be complete.
most americans are already degrading themself with alcohol and liquors without even drinking gau jal, if you feel gau jal is bad, good for you. ANd if it were indeed that bad, hindus woudnt have existed through last 5000 years.

It's not poison, just grosses out my American sensibilities.
liquors affect the blood-brain barrier, mortality, etc. if that is not poison, then what is? It is yet to be determined if gau-jal does so. If gau-jal was poisonous, how are religious hindus surviving?

Liquors have claimed lives of millions of amercians. What have Republicans who want to uphold American heritage done to stop this? Intead of blaming Hindus, learn to look at how your own people behave, hasnt Jesus asked us to do so?
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