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voo-yo:
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--- Quote from: sonja_yu on October 06, 2009, 12:01:10 PM ---
--- Quote from: Spectator on October 05, 2009, 09:51:53 AM ---Well, it's between you Serbs and Russians. If both your peoples have mutual affinity, want to have a common state or strong alliance, nothing can stop you :)
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A COMMON STATE?!
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SPR says Russians and Serbs consider themselves one nation. If it is true, why couldn't they have a common state? But it was not the point of my post, actually I was a bit surprised by this view. My point was that only Russians and Serbs can define their relationship and all the other people can only accept it, not to question it.
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You still take him seriously?
Spectator:
--- Quote from: voo-yo on October 06, 2009, 02:34:27 PM ---
--- Quote from: Spectator on October 06, 2009, 01:49:07 PM ---
--- Quote from: sonja_yu on October 06, 2009, 12:01:10 PM ---
--- Quote from: Spectator on October 05, 2009, 09:51:53 AM ---Well, it's between you Serbs and Russians. If both your peoples have mutual affinity, want to have a common state or strong alliance, nothing can stop you :)
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A COMMON STATE?!
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SPR says Russians and Serbs consider themselves one nation. If it is true, why couldn't they have a common state? But it was not the point of my post, actually I was a bit surprised by this view. My point was that only Russians and Serbs can define their relationship and all the other people can only accept it, not to question it.
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You still take him seriously?
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I don't agree with him on some very important issues but as long as he does not try to deny Jewish sovereignity over Israel or defend Jew haters, I don't have problems with him. He seems to be an intelligent man and know a lot about Serbia in general and Krajina in particular, let him talk about it.
If you don't agree with him you can debate and disprove his views. Vujo, I hope you don't feel betrayed when sometimes I don't join you when you debate him.. But I am very grateful to you for your support of Israel. You are true friend, may G-d bless you.
As for his view on Serbian-Russian relations, he is not the only one who thinks that way. I saw many such Serbs on youtube and on srpskinacionalisti.com forum who say similar things. I personally don't have any thing for or against it, I'm just curious about it. I will gladly hear your opinion too.
Serbian_Radical_Party:
--- Quote from: Spectator on October 06, 2009, 02:58:04 PM ---I don't agree with him on some very important issues
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Like what friend ;D
What very important issues :)
voo-yo:
--- Quote from: Spectator on October 06, 2009, 02:58:04 PM ---
--- Quote from: voo-yo on October 06, 2009, 02:34:27 PM ---
--- Quote from: Spectator on October 06, 2009, 01:49:07 PM ---
--- Quote from: sonja_yu on October 06, 2009, 12:01:10 PM ---
--- Quote from: Spectator on October 05, 2009, 09:51:53 AM ---Well, it's between you Serbs and Russians. If both your peoples have mutual affinity, want to have a common state or strong alliance, nothing can stop you :)
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A COMMON STATE?!
--- End quote ---
SPR says Russians and Serbs consider themselves one nation. If it is true, why couldn't they have a common state? But it was not the point of my post, actually I was a bit surprised by this view. My point was that only Russians and Serbs can define their relationship and all the other people can only accept it, not to question it.
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You still take him seriously?
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I don't agree with him on some very important issues but as long as he does not try to deny Jewish sovereignity over Israel or defend Jew haters, I don't have problems with him. He seems to be an intelligent man and know a lot about Serbia in general and Krajina in particular, let him talk about it.
If you don't agree with him you can debate and disprove his views. Vujo, I hope you don't feel betrayed when sometimes I don't join you when you debate him.. But I am very grateful to you for your support of Israel. You are true friend, may G-d bless you.
As for his view on Serbian-Russian relations, he is not the only one who thinks that way. I saw many such Serbs on youtube and on srpskinacionalisti.com forum who say similar things. I personally don't have any thing for or against it, I'm just curious about it. I will gladly hear your opinion too.
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Of course I don't feel betrayed, I can understand your motives. I'm not sure you'll achieve anything with him, but ok.
Majority of Serbs view Russia as our biggest hope, our protector, but this guy is delusional. Such is the case with all people without real faith, so they search an earthly G-d, in our case - Russia, in Israel's case - America.
Personally, I've never heard a Serb saying "I'm a little Russian". I don't know their taste in music, food, sports... Our biggest contact with Russians is during the summer on Montenegro coast. I don't want to be assimilated by Russians or anyone else, and that's how Serbian people feel too. Except Seselj, of course.
Spectator:
--- Quote from: Serbian_Radical_Party on October 06, 2009, 03:02:00 PM ---
--- Quote from: Spectator on October 06, 2009, 02:58:04 PM ---I don't agree with him on some very important issues
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Like what friend ;D
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Do you remember when I asked you if Israel has the right to exist as Jewish state? I didn't "question" you as you told then, I asked that because you started defending Saddam Hussein who wanted to destroy the Jewish state all his life, so may be you share his opinion on this issue too. And that was your answer:
--- Quote from: Serbian_Radical_Party on August 18, 2009, 09:31:50 AM ---To answer your question, well Israel exists and that is a fact. I have no problems with the existence of a Jewish state in the Middle East.
This does not mean that I authomatically unconditionally support Israel in every way.
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This kind of answer says much. At first, I can clearly see it is at least not an easy question to you. Secondly, I didn't ask if you unconditioanlly support Israel. It is clear that nobody is obliged to support everything Israel does. The question was very basic and simple: right of the Jewish state to exist, not about borders, spheres of influence, etc.
Lastly, according to geography and English grammar, "I have no problems with the existence of a Jewish state in the Middle East" may as well mean "in the Middle East somewhere else than in Israel aka Holy Land". If this is the case, it is unacceptable. The Jews don't want to have a state outside Israel. We are not interested in foreign lands. We want to have the state in the land that G-d gave to our forefathers Abraham, Isaac and Jacob and where we lived for more than 3000 years.
But I appreciate your honesty. If you have any doubts on this issue, you can post a thread and ask questions. I don't think you'll be banned for asking questons. The Jews don't ban people who want to find out the truth and ask polite questions.
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